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"Azeri" barbarians are destroying what's left of the ancient Jugha cemetery

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  • #91
    They don't care

    Originally posted by Tongue
    UNESCO Director-General Koichiro Matsuura expressed his readiness to send a group of experts to Nakhijevan to study the issue and censure what has happened, PanArmenian.net reports. Last week the World Armenian Congress Chair Ara Abrahamyan, being a UNESCO good will Ambassador, during an official meeting drew Koichiro Matsuura’s attention to destruction of the Armenian cemetery in Old Julfa by Azeris. According to Chair of the European representation of all-Armenian structures, RA FM’s Advisor Ashot Grigoryan, Ara Abrahamyan censured vandalism regarding cultural monuments in general and, particularly, act of destruction of the Christian monuments in Old Julfa, having noted that it entailed negative political consequences and more destabilized the political situation in the South Caucasus. Ara Abrahamyan also invited Koichiro Matsuura to visit Armenia to get acquainted with treasures of the Armenian culture. The UNESCO Director-General assured that in case of receiving an invitation he would schedule his visit to Armenia with pleasure.
    The fact is, the JUNESCO xxxxxxs can't care less for Armenian heritage being destroyed.

    As early as 1998, when they first started the destruction of the cemetery, Armenian organizations have asked JUNESCO to warn Azgarbageland to stop the savagery but no serious steps were taken.
    The complaint was repeated in 2002 when the barbarity intensified, without effective actions taken by JUNESCO.

    If they really wanted to send observers, they should have done that in December 2005, not to say in 1998.
    Nothing is left from the Jugha cemetery anymore.
    Four things denialist Turks do when they are confronted with facts:

    I. They change the subject [SIZE="1"](e.g. they copy/paste tons of garbage to divert attention).[/SIZE]
    II. They project [SIZE="1"](e.g. they replace "Turk" with "Armenian" and vice versa and they regurgitate Armenian history).[/SIZE]
    III. They offend [SIZE="1"](e.g. they cuss, threaten and/or mock).[/SIZE]
    IV. They shut up and say nothing.

    [URL="http://b.imagehost.org/download/0689/azerbaijan-real-fake-absurd.pdf"][COLOR="Red"]A country named Azerbaijan north of the Arax River [B]NEVER[/B] existed before 1918[/COLOR][/URL]

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    • #92
      EUROPEAN ARMENIAN FEDERATION

      for Justice and Democracy
      Avenue de la Renaissance 10


      EUROPEAN PARLIAMENT SET TO SEND INVESTIGATION TEAM TO EXAMINE AZERBAIJAN'S DESECRATION OF DJULFA CEMETERY

      -- South Caucasus Delegation Set to Travel to Region at the End of April

      STRASBURG (FRANCE) - Speaking at an official conference on Thursday, April 6th, the President of the European Parliament was joined by the leaders of its political parties in strongly approving the body's decision to send a delegation in Djulfa, in the Nakhichevan region of Azerbaijan.

      The aim of the mission is to investigate the destruction by Azerbaijan of the Armenian cemetery in Djulfa, a treasure of world architectural heritage that was effectively destroyed and replaced by an Azerbaijani military facility.

      The EP leaders unanimously decided to entrust this mission to the Commission on EU-Armenia parliamentary cooperation rather than to an ad-hoc delegation, as it had initially been planned.

      The mission is being sent in accordance with the Parliament's resolution "on cultural heritage in Azerbaijan," which was adopted in February of 2006 (P6_TA(2006)0069). This measure “demands that Azerbaijan allow missions, including experts working with ICOMOS, who are dedicated to surveying and protecting archaeological heritage, in particular Armenian heritage, onto its territory, and that it also allow a European Parliament delegation to visit the archaeological site at Djulfa."

      The delegation will be composed of ten Members of the European Parliament (MEP) who are members of the Commission of EU-Armenia parliamentary cooperation group. They are set to travel to Djulfa as part of their trip to Armenia from April 17th to 21st. Prior to travelling to Djulfa, they will need to get the necessary authorisations from the Azerbaijani authorities, the same authorities responsible for the desecration of the cemetery.

      The delegation will include the following MEPs:

      Mme Marie-Anne Isler-Béguin, présidente (Verts, France)
      M. Arpad Duka-Zolyomi, vice-président (PPE, Slovaquie)
      M. Alessandro Battilocchio (NI, Italie)
      M. Johannes Blokand (IND/DEM, Pays-Bas)
      Mme Frederika Brepoels (PPE, Belgique)
      M. Robert Evans (PSE, R.-U.)
      Mme Siiri Oviir (ALDE, Estonie)
      Mme Gabriele Stauer (PPE, Allemagne)
      M. Hannes Swoboda (PSE, Autriche)
      M. Tadeusz Zwiefka (PPE, Pologne)

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      • #93
        The key phrase in the above is "Prior to travelling to Djulfa, they
        will need to get the necessary authorisations from the Azerbaijani
        authorities."

        Of course, no such authorisation will ever be given by
        Azerbaycan, and no investigation team will ever be sent to examine Julfa.

        The European Parliament (also of course) know this - which is why it is an empty gesture. But it will silence critics for long enough until the whole issue can be safely forgotten.
        Plenipotentiary meow!

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        • #94
          Time will show.

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          • #95
            I do not need to wait for time to show. I know enough to know that it is certain.
            Plenipotentiary meow!

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            • #96
              Baku Objects to Euro Parliament Survey in Nakhichevan

              YEREVAN (PanArmenian.Net)--Top Azeri officials said that they might allow a European Parliament (EP) delegation to survey the destroyed Armenian cemetery in Julfa, Nakhichevan, "only with the condition of bilateral survey," APA reports.

              The EP decided last week that a delegation composed of members of the Commission on EU-Armenia parliamentary cooperation will visit Julfa as part of their trip to Armenia from April 17-21. The aim of the mission is to investigate Azerbaijan's destruction of the Armenian cemetery in Julfa.

              Prior to traveling to Julfa, they will need to get the necessary authorization from Azeri authorities.

              The mission is being sent in accordance with the EP's resolution "on cultural heritage in Azerbaijan," which "demands that Azerbaijan allow missions, including experts working with ICOMOS, who are dedicated to surveying and protecting archaeological heritage, in particular Armenian heritage, onto its territory, and that it also allow a European Parliament delegation to visit the archaeological site at Julfa."

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              • #97
                Azerbaijan: Famous Medieval Cemetery Vanishes

                IWPR reporter confirms that there is nothing left of the celebrated stone crosses of Jugha.

                By IWPR staff in Nakhichevan, Baku and Yerevan (CRS No. 336, 19-Apr-06)



                It has become one of the most bitterly divisive issues in the Caucasus – but up until now no one has been able to clear up the mystery surrounding the fate of the famous medieval Christian cemetery of Jugha in Azerbaijan.

                The cemetery was regarded by Armenians as the biggest and most precious repository of medieval headstones marked with crosses – the Armenians call them “khachkars” – of which more than 2,000 were still there in the late Eighties. Each elaborately carved tombstone was a masterpiece of carving.

                Armenians have said that the cemetery has been razed, comparing its destruction to the demolition of two giant Buddha figures by the Taleban in Afghanistan. Azerbaijan has hit back by accusing Armenia of scaremongering, and of destroying Azerbaijani monuments on its own territory.

                Now an IWPR contributor has become the first journalist to visit the site of the cemetery on Azerbaijan’s border with Iran - and has confirmed that the graveyard has completely vanished.

                The European Parliament, UNESCO and Britain’s House of Lords have all taken an interest in the fate of the Jugha cemetery. A European Parliament delegation is currently visiting the South Caucasus. But so far none has been allowed to visit the site itself.

                If international observers can confirm that the cemetery has been razed, it is sure to spark a new high-voltage row between the two countries, which have engaged in a bitter war of allegation and counter-allegation since fighting ended in the Nagorny Karabkah conflict in 1994.

                The IWPR contributor was accompanied by two Azerbaijani security service officers and was restricted in his movements. He was unable to go right down to the River Araxes, the site of the former cemetery, as it lies in a protected border zone. However, he was able to see clearly that there was no cemetery there, merely bare ground. Nor was there, as some Armenians have claimed, a military training ground.

                He did manage to see a 20th century cemetery with Armenian tombstones that lay untouched in a nearby village.

                This is one of the most inaccessible parts of Europe, located in the Azerbaijani exclave of Nakhichevan, which is surrounded by Armenia and Iran and – because of the unresolved Armenian-Azerbaijani dispute - is only accessible from the rest of Azerbaijan by air.

                Old Julfa, or Jugha as it is known by the Armenians, sits on the northern bank of the River Araxes which divides Nakhichevan from Iran.

                According to Armenian and other historians, Julfa was a flourishing Armenian town in the Middle Ages. But in 1604, Shah Abbas of Persia forcibly resettled the inhabitants to Isfahan, where to this day there is still an Armenian quarter known as New Julfa.

                The ruined town and its cemetery remained, and were visited by a number of travellers over the years. British Orientalist Sir William Ouseley arrived in July 1812 and found “a city now in perfect decay”, and the remains of what had been one of the most famous stone bridges in the world.

                He wrote, “I examined the principal remains of Julfa, where 45 Armenian families, apparently of the lowest class, constituted the entire population.

                “But of its former inhabitants, the multiplicity was sufficiently evinced by the ample and crowded cemetery, situated on a bank sloping towards the river, and covered with numerous rows of upright tombstones, which when viewed at a little distance, resembled a concourse of people or rather regiments of troops drawn up in close order.”

                Historian Argam Aivazian, the principal expert on the Armenian monuments of Nakhichevan, said that Jugha was a unique monument of medieval art and the largest Armenian cemetery in existence. There were unique tombstones shaped like rams, a church and the remains of a massive stone bridge. Nowhere else in the world, he said, was there such a big concentration of thousands of khachkars in one place.

                Aivazian last visited the site in 1987, when it was still mostly intact, despite its poor upkeep during the Soviet period.

                Artist Lusik Aguletsi, a Nakhichevan-born Armenian, also last visited the cemetery in 1987, although she was under escort.

                “There is nothing like it in Armenia,” she said. “It was a thrilling sight. Two hills completely covered in khachkars. We weren’t allowed to draw or photograph them.”

                Armenian experts now accuse Azerbaijan of a deliberate act of cultural vandalism.

                “The destruction of the khachkars of Old Jugha means the destruction of an entire phenomenon in the history of humanity, because they are not only proof of the culture of the people who created them, they are also symbols that tell us about a particular cultural epoch,” said Hranush Kharatian, head of the Armenian government’s department for national and religious minorities.

                “On the entire territory of Nakhichevan there existed 27,000 monasteries, churches, khachkars, tombstones and other Armenian monuments,” said Aivazian. “Today they have all been destroyed.”

                Although the historical provenance of the cemetery is disputed in Azerbaijan, its cultural importance is confirmed by the 1986 Azerbaijani book “The Architecture of Ancient and Early Medieval Azerbaijan” by Davud Akhundov, which contains several photographs of the cross-stones of Jugha.

                In Akhundov’s book, the stones are said to be of Caucasian Albanian origin, in line with the official theory taught in Azerbaijan that the Christian monuments there are the work not of Armenians, but of the Albanians. The Caucasian Albanians - a people unconnected with Albania – lived in the south-eastern Caucasus but their culture began to die out in the Middle Ages.

                Nowadays, there is a village of some 500 inhabitants known as Gulistan near where the cemetery used to lie. The climate is harsh and dry and the houses are mostly built of wattle and daub and stones from the river.

                The local inhabitants are tight-lipped, denying there was ever an Armenian cemetery here

                “In some parts of Julfa there are historic Christian cemeteries, but they are monuments of Caucasian Albania and have nothing to do with Armenians,” said political scientist Zaur Ibragimli, who lives in Julfa.

                He added that there is a large Armenian cemetery and church, still preserved, near the village of Salkhangaya.

                Husein Shukuraliev, editor of the Julfa local newspaper Voice of Araxes said the destruction of the cemetery began as early as 1828, when Azerbaijan became part of the Russian empire. Thousands of tombstones were then destroyed at the turn of the 20th century when a railway was constructed, he said.

                Safar Ashurov, a scholar with Azerbaijan’s Institute of Archaeology and Ethnography disputed that the cemetery was Armenian, calling the ram shapes an “element of exclusively Turkish Muslim grave art”.

                However, two other witnesses told IWPR that there has been more recent destruction of the cemetery – though it may have started much further back than Armenians allege.

                A man named Intigam who works repairing tin cans in Baku said he was posted in Julfa with the Soviet army in 1988-89. At the end of 1989, the radical Azerbaijani nationalist politician Nemat Panahov dismantled the border-posts on Nakhichevan’s border with Iran. Intigam said that part of the Julfa cemetery was destroyed at that time.

                Panakhov himself declined to comment when contacted by IWPR, saying, “Journalists always deceive me, and I don’t want anything more to do with them.”

                A second witness, who asked for his name not to be given, said that there were khachkar stones on the site up until 2002, but they were then removed on the orders of the Nakhichevan military command.

                An Armenian architect, Arpiar Petrossian, told IWPR he visited the Iranian side of the border in 1998 with a friend in order to look at the monuments on that side. They also viewed the remains of the bridge. Looking across the river into Azerbaijan, he said, they noticed a flat-bed train apparently removing the cross-stones from the cemetery.

                Armenian deputy culture minister Gagik Gyurdjian said his government raised the alarm in 1998.

                “Then we got the entire international community up in arms and stopped the destruction,” he told IWPR. “But in 2003 the destruction started again. Many khachkars were buried under the earth, and the rest were destroyed and thrown into the Araxes.”

                In the last few months, the propaganda war over Jugha has reached a new intensity - just as the latest round of Karabakh peace talks between presidents Ilham Aliev and Robert Kocharian, held in February, ran into trouble.

                Azerbaijani president Aliev angrily denied Armenian allegations about the Jugha cemetery last week, saying the claims were “a lie and a provocation”.

                International institutions are now demanding to be allowed to visit the site of the cemetery. The European Parliament passed a resolution in February condemning the destruction of the cemetery.

                However, Azerbaijan said it would only accept a European parliamentary delegation if it visited Armenian-controlled territory as well. Around one seventh of what is internationally recognised as Azerbaijani territory has been under Armenian control since the end of the Karabakh conflict.

                “We think that if a comprehensive approach is taken to the problems that have been raised, it will be possible to study Christian monuments on the territory of Azerbaijan, including in the Nakhichevan Autonomous Republic,” said Azerbaijani foreign ministry spokesman Tahir Tagizade.

                The Azerbaijani foreign ministry says old Muslim monuments have disappeared from Armenia. In a statement, it said that at least 1,587 mosques and 23 madrassas had been destroyed in what was once the Muslim-governed Yerevan Khanate - now part of Armenia. In the Zangezur and Echmiadzin areas alone, more than 830 mosques have been demolished, it said, adding that more than 500 Muslim cemeteries have been destroyed within the territory of Armenia. The statement did not specify when this destruction occurred.

                Avetik Ishkhanian, president of Armenia’s Helsinki Committee, blames the international community for not reacting sooner to the razing of Jugha, contrasting the response with the outcry that followed the Taleban’s demolition of the Buddhas of Bamian in 2001.

                “Why has there not been the same reaction in this case?” asked Ishkhanian. “At that time, world public attention was directed against the Taleban regime, and this act of barbarism was used as a propaganda weapon to launch military action against them.”

                Reporting by Idrak Abbasov in Nakhichevan; Shahin Rzayev and Jasur Mamedov in Baku; and Seda Muradian, Narine Avetian and Karine Ter-Sahakian in Yerevan.
                IWPR gives voice to people at the frontlines of conflict and transition to help them drive change.
                "All truth passes through three stages:
                First, it is ridiculed;
                Second, it is violently opposed; and
                Third, it is accepted as self-evident."

                Arthur Schopenhauer (1788-1860)

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                • #98
                  There is a lot of garbage in that article that will play right into the hands of the Azeri's, if the Azeri's know how to play it right.

                  Originally posted by Gavur
                  The IWPR contributor was accompanied by two Azerbaijani security service officers and was restricted in his movements. He was unable to go right down to the River Araxes, the site of the former cemetery, as it lies in a protected border zone. However, he was able to see clearly that there was no cemetery there, merely bare ground. Nor was there, as some Armenians have claimed, a military training ground.
                  He was obviously nowhere near the actual site ofthe cemetery. You cannot see the site of the cemetery from anywhere except inside the Arax gorge. The fact that he did not see the fake "firing range" is proof of that.

                  Nowadays, there is a village of some 500 inhabitants known as Gulistan near where the cemetery used to lie. The climate is harsh and dry and the houses are mostly built of wattle and daub and stones from the river.
                  Gulistan village does not lie near to the cemetery site. It is named after a turbe tomb that is located near the river, and it is the first stop on the railway as it emerges from the gorge.


                  However, two other witnesses told IWPR that there has been more recent destruction of the cemetery – though it may have started much further back than Armenians allege.

                  A man named Intigam who works repairing tin cans in Baku said he was posted in Julfa with the Soviet army in 1988-89. At the end of 1989, the radical Azerbaijani nationalist politician Nemat Panahov dismantled the border-posts on Nakhichevan’s border with Iran. Intigam said that part of the Julfa cemetery was destroyed at that time.
                  More garbage

                  In 1993 the cemetery was in the same condition that it was in during the 1970s.
                  But we all should know where they are going with this - the excuse will be that the cemetery was destroyed "in the heat of war" in the early 1990s and thus it will be excusable behaviour by the Azeris.

                  A second witness, who asked for his name not to be given, said that there were khachkar stones on the site up until 2002, but they were then removed on the orders of the Nakhichevan military command.
                  Again wrong, 80% of the khatchkars were still there until the end of 2005.
                  Plenipotentiary meow!

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                  • #99
                    IWPR gives voice to people at the frontlines of conflict and transition to help them drive change.


                    ...Shows a photo of where the reporter went. I presume he is looking north, with his back to the river. If so, then he is nowhere near where the cemetery was! It is much further to the West/left, at the base of those rocky slopes, beyond were those white buildings are.
                    Plenipotentiary meow!

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                    • Azerbaijan Has Not Responded To The Request Of The European Parliament So Far

                      ArmRadio.am
                      19.04.2006 14:30

                      So far Azerbaijan has not responded to the request of the European
                      Parliament to allow the fact-finding mission to learn about the fact
                      of demolition of Armenian khachkars and ancient monuments in place.

                      To remind, according to April 6 decision of the President of the
                      European Parliament and Heads of political groups, a fact-finding
                      mission should be sent to Old Jugha to investigate the destruction of
                      Armenian cemeteries by Azerbaijanis. The mission is to be carried out
                      by members of the EU-Armenia Parliamentary Cooperation Commission,
                      who are currently in Yerevan to participate in the 8th sitting of
                      the Commission. In case of permission, the will leave Yerevan for
                      Nakhijevan.

                      Head of the EU delegation Mary-Anne Isler Beguin told "Armenpress"
                      that the European Parliament has asked UNESCO to provide data about
                      the fact of demolition of the Armenian monuments. The organization,
                      however, possessed no information.

                      "Currently we are working with Armenia, Azerbaijan and UNESCO to find
                      out what has happened in reality," she said.

                      According to Mary-Anne Isler Beguin, the facts provided by Armenia
                      evidence about the destruction that occurred still a few years ago.

                      As early as February 16, in its resolution adopted with the majority
                      of votes, the European Parliament condemned the Azeri vandalism and
                      called on Azerbaijan to "allow carrying out missions directed at
                      investigation and preservation of historic, particularly Armenian
                      heritage on its territory."
                      "All truth passes through three stages:
                      First, it is ridiculed;
                      Second, it is violently opposed; and
                      Third, it is accepted as self-evident."

                      Arthur Schopenhauer (1788-1860)

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