Pkk - terrorist organization or freedom fighters?

[gokhan]

I just wonder if you re-read before posting. No sense at all. Are you over 75?

[imported_Ottoman]

Which outside forces want to acheive this and why/for what purpose?

The powers behind the Globalization.
They want to globalize money but not the people.
They want to put us in small cells.
For example there is no trade between Armenia and Turkey.
But there is between US-Turkey,US-Armenia or France-Turkey , France-Armenia.Are they clever enough
For a small needle you don't go to neighbour, go to market at the other side of the city
Second reason is they don't want strong countries.They want all world should obey them.
They want small Ancient Greek like city governments.
These small governments will serve only for infrastructure of cities.
Iraq is divided into 3.
Iran/X.
Russia/Y
China/Z

Turkey ? Prime Number

Free thinkers are dangerous,
Blame, Hate, For Fate's Seed.
-SOAD

[Joseph]

I just wonder if you re-read before posting. No sense at all. Are you over 75?

I'm sorry your English is so bad. Here is my easy to understand summary: (You can take a Tylenol for an headaches)

THE PKK IS NOT BEING SUPPORTED BY YOUR NEIGHBORS. IT IS NOT IN ANYONE'S INTEREST FOR A TURKEY TO DEVOLVE INTO A CIVIL WAR BECAUSE IT WOULD EFFECT ALL YOUR NEIGHBORS IN A NEGATIVE WAY. CONSPIRACRY THEORIES ARE A TURKISH HOBBY. PEOPLE WOULD MUCH RATHER SEE AN ECONOMICALLY STRONG TURKEY BECAUSE IT WOULD BE LOSS OF A LOOSE CANON. THERE ARE VARIETY OF COMPANIES AND COUNTRIES DOING BUSINESS IN TURKEY AND THEY HAVE TO MUCH TO LOSE BY SUPPORTING A TERRORIST GROUP. TURKEY'S PROBLEM WITH THE KURDS IS OF ITS OWN MAKING.

[Joseph]

I just wonder if you re-read before posting. No sense at all. Are you over 75?

I was being sarcastic.

Sarcasm: witty language used to convey insults or scorn; "he used sarcasm to upset his opponent"; "irony is wasted on the stupid"; "Satire is a sort of glass, wherein beholders do generally discover everybody's face but their own"

[kerkuk_kurdista]

I am sypathetic to Kurdish Causes, however I am not sympathetic to terrorism, mass murders, slaughter of innocent civilians for their nations policy, or suicide bombings.

The PKK is without any reasonable doubt a terror organization, do not let hate of Turkey fool you about them, the PKK is an organization of cold blooded killers who's preffered targets are women and children.

That said it does not mean I am against the Kurdish Right to their own state, or that I am for the fascist Turkish Policies relating to the Kurds, however that does not justify bombing Pizza Shops, Schools, and other ordinary civilians.

To the guy who was trying to make it seem like the Kurds are Israel's Vassals, you couldn't possibly be more rediculous.

Israel is on very good terms with the Kurds (Apart from the PKK and Answar Al Islam) because Israelis feel they have similar histories, and because Kurdish Jews assure other Israelis that the Kurds are friends of the jews, however if you think Ariel Sharon controlls the Kurdish National Movement from Tel Aviv you are certainly not thinking based on reality. The Kurds have their own political entities that are fully independent and would be around regardless of Israel's Policies.

One of the best posts here I must say!

[Aytug]

PKK is an organization which is most harmful for the Kurds living in Turkey. PKK sell the blood of the militans' in the mountians to Europe. While the capitalists drink blood, too many people had lost their lives from the both side. PKK is said to be Marxist-Leninist but get weapon from the US!

If there is an unagreed situation, you would argue it democratically in the TBMM-parlement-...You wouldn't kill all the people,especially kids for "Not get revenge in the future"..

[reall]

you now gap?it consists of 80-90 dams. it is one of the BiGGWST porject on earth where is it take place?in places where kurds live...there in no sepereation in turkey...come to istanbul and ask a kurd what he feels?some of them own big companies etc...dont be a fool

[kerkuk_kurdista]

you now gap?it consists of 80-90 dams. it is one of the BiGGWST porject on earth where is it take place?in places where kurds live...there in no sepereation in turkey...come to istanbul and ask a kurd what he feels?some of them own big companies etc...dont be a fool

According to a previous KHRP report, 18 villages close to the construction site were forcibly evicted by soldiers in 1996 and 1997. The report also details a lengthy catalogue of human rights infringements and cultural destruction associated with the dam.

"Gama has been shown to be involved in the GAP project which has resulted in the decimation of Kurdish cultural lands and the displacement of 200,000 people.

"The project has also been beset by severe human rights violations, labour abuses and is considered by locals as war by other means," she said.

CONSTRUCTION firm Gama is facing further criticism for its role in a controversial dam project which has displaced more than 200,000 Kurds in South East Turkey

http://www.globalwomenstrike.net/Eng...minermay05.htm


Forced to leave your village in which your ancestors have lived for over thousands of years. Where your beloved family comes from, where you have unforgetable memories. Where is the place of your identity. You call this humanity. Of course, the government doesn't give a xxxx, it's Kurdish area.


KURDISH HUMAN RIGHTS PROJECT
http://www.khrp.org/publish/p2003/03B.htm

he proposed Dam was set to destroy the town of Hasankeyf in Southeast Turkey, an area of significant cultural heritage, leaving 78,000 local residents homeless

HOMELESS!!!!!

``Up to 70,000 Kurds would be affected by the proposals, local culture would be lost, hundreds of archaeological sites would be drowned and the neighbouring countries of Syria and Iraq have not been consulted about its effect on them

Here are many articles about the ethnical cleansing project Turkey will once do again on Kurds.
http://www.ilisu.org.uk/news23.html

Also, the electricity will mostly provide the Turkish areas of Turkey.

[reall]

i fell sorry fo you? you know what...im not your enmy im your brother you konw why?we live on the same soil nd my mother is from bingöl.....feel sorry fo ya

[reall]

you stupid do you have water to drink?with dam you get it
dou you have water to feed you animal?with dam you get it
yo you have water to to be a farmer?with dam you get it

everwhere in world dams brings some places under water.in barasil rain forest becames underwater..also hasankeyf is a cultural place came from selçuklu empire you lier..aslo i saw hasankeyf and i realy fell sorry because it is very beatuful and make our country gain money with tourism.......aslo in displacement is a result of dam everywhere in world..and most of the d
splacers was türk..with gap you inrease the agriculture what do you want?you got everything in this country yo can study iin universiteis with the same quality of europe you vote you eat do every thin...