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Guys stop dragging Cats into the your macho man contest, they have nothing to do with politics.
Why are you so dense? We didn't drag the cats into politics, a pissing contest or anything else. It was the turks who have been renaming everything. Constantinople is now istambul, Mt Ararat is agu dagi or some other stupid name just as a few examples and now they want to change the names of plants and animals to make it seem like it's all "turkish" in origin. They have a severe cae of inferiority complex and they're trying to make up for their deficiency by taking credit for things that they deserve credit for and didn't you know that turkey is the cradle of civilization? Who would have guessed judging by their history.
If they want to rename it, they should rename it "prunus turco genocidica".
I read an article where a scientist had listed dozens and dozens of names of flora and fauna that included armeniaca, armenicus, etc. (just Google these words and try to gather all the names!)
They have a hard task ahead of them...
Four things denialist Turks do when they are confronted with facts:
I. They change the subject [SIZE="1"](e.g. they copy/paste tons of garbage to divert attention).[/SIZE]
II. They project [SIZE="1"](e.g. they replace "Turk" with "Armenian" and vice versa and they regurgitate Armenian history).[/SIZE]
III. They offend [SIZE="1"](e.g. they cuss, threaten and/or mock).[/SIZE]
IV. They shut up and say nothing.
[URL="http://b.imagehost.org/download/0689/azerbaijan-real-fake-absurd.pdf"][COLOR="Red"]A country named Azerbaijan north of the Arax River [B]NEVER[/B] existed before 1918[/COLOR][/URL]
I read an article where a scientist had listed dozens and dozens of names of flora and fauna that included armeniaca, armenicus, etc. (just Google these words and try to gather all the names!)
To be sure there must be all kinds. They have an impossible task ahead of them. It's no different than trying to change the bible reference to Ararat and Armenia to turkey and agu dagi. Stupid turks!
BEcasue Malatya has the perfect climate for it, and they export everywhere in the world.
Never eaten from Kagizman, I am not sure I'll ever be able to. Actually I would like to visit our eastern provinces, I've been elzazig and harput further in the east. I really am cirous of seeing KArs Erzurum, Ardahan, Kagizman Agri, and mount Agri
Originally posted by bell-the-cat
The best apricots in the world are grown in Kaghizman.
They are exported to other cities in Turkey, but only in small quantities. And, alas, many of the orchards are being abandoned bacause it is not profitable to harvest them and nobody locally wants to pay much for them. The best way to get some is to find someone with relatives in Kagizman.
A Malatya apricot tastes like rubber in comparison.
I know, state policy for farming really sucks unfortunetly
I'll try to find kagizman's kayisi
Originally posted by bell-the-cat
They are exported to other cities in Turkey, but only in small quantities. And, alas, many of the orchards are being abandoned bacause it is not profitable to harvest them and nobody locally wants to pay much for them. The best way to get some is to find someone with relatives in Kagizman.
A Malatya apricot tastes like rubber in comparison.
Correction, turkey has only existed since the end of WWI and it is an artificially created entity. Van cats lived in the Armenian city of Van for thousands of years. End of discussion. wikipedia...any idiot can edit anything they want there.
You are definately a genius. If "present day" Turkey existed since the end of WWI so has "present day" Armenia in the same sense. Your argument is plain stupid. How is Turkey an articially created entity? Did we come down with a meteor storm from Kripton? Or were Turks so pretty, nice and angels that the superpowers of the time just handed Asia Minor out to them because they deeply loved us. Are Armenians descendants of Neanderthal Man that used to live in these lands before H.Sapiens that came from Africa? Post a picture of yourself Parandzem. If you look anything like:
...then you may be the rightful owner of these lands unless you have property rights handed over to you by some Neanderthal.
What I'm trying to say is that the lands people, communities or nations have owned have continuously changed throughout history because of war, genocide, migration, claimtic change, disease, religion etc. Parts of Anatolia may have belonged to Armenians for 5000+ years, it may belong to Turks-Ottomans (whatever) for the last 1000 years and who knows tomorrow it may belong to invading Peruvians. We all just have to live by the fact that borders change and I do not mean this in any manner to degrade or forget the Armenian Genocide.
I brought up the Van cat to make a point which you obviously missed. The cat in question was always called the Van cat, but the turks decided to call it turkish to as you can see at wiki from the URL you provided. The article also states the the country of the cat's origin is turkey and that is also false.
It wasn't the Turks who first named them "Turkish Vans", it was ignorant foreigners. And I suspect that the same sort of ignorant foreigners wrote that article.
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