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Do you really believe that one nice day Armenia will get its lands back from Turke

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  • #51
    Phantom, yeah it just came to me while I was thinking about their recent loss. Oh well, I love my Galatasaray no matter what. By the way, my mother is about 10 000 miles away from me....
    All i was doing was pointing out the obvious. You have people on this forrum posting about wars etc. If this issue is to ever be resolved, it has to be done in an international court of law, not on the battle field, as i would like to think that we have come along way and smartened up in the last Century.
    (I do note however that any argument that does not go your way, you get feisty! This is a sign of your lack of tolerence)
    Now, why do you not lobby for the international courts to handle this matter. Once again, archives and historians of both sides can be interviewed and both parties get to express their beleifs and stories. I know you are gong to say that so many courts and countries and states in America actually have agreed and said it was a Genocide, but how many of them consulted any of the Turkish historians who have access to archives, local stories etc?
    And once again, you are not going to like this, but do you really think that senators in the US actaully give a xxxx about how many Armenians and Turks got SLAUGHTERED 100 years ago? All they care about is Votes and who ever is doing the lobbying has the votes!
    You cant be that naive can you?

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    • #52
      To remind you these countries to cooperate.

      Turkısh Republıcs

      Republic of Turkey
      Republic of Azerbaijan
      Northern Cyprus Turkish Republic
      Kazakhstan
      Uzbekistan
      Turkmenistan
      Kyrgyzstan
      Republic of Tajikistan

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      • #53
        Originally posted by spicerisk View Post
        To remind you these countries to cooperate.

        Turk?sh Republ?cs

        Republic of Turkey
        Republic of Azerbaijan
        Northern Cyprus Turkish Republic
        Kazakhstan
        Uzbekistan
        Turkmenistan
        Kyrgyzstan
        Republic of Tajikistan
        And Armenia cooperates with Kazakhstan and Turkmenistan. So what's your point? The Pan-Turkic dream my dear xxx Kurt?

        Yeah, they just love you guys. After 70 years of Soviet domination, they really wanted a new overlord. BTW, the Tajiks are Persian. And Russia still runs the show in Kazakhstan and Kyrgyzstan. Uzbekistan has dropped out of GUAM (formerly GUUAM) as well.
        General Antranik (1865-1927): “I am not a nationalist. I recognize only one nation, the nation of the oppressed.”

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        • #54
          The "issue" of Turkey "returning" lands (Van, Kars, etc districts) is a total non-issue. It has nothign to do with genocide recognition per se. What I would hope for however - is that once Turkey and the Turks grow up a bit and become more enlightened - that they will not only recognize the Armenian genocide (fully as such) and be truly remorseful - but that they will welcome individual Armenians back - perhaps allowing some form of dual or special citizenship - and that they will offer compensation - in a sense - for Armenians to return to historical lands and establish businesses and such so once again they might prosper and be able to practice their culture in their traditional heartland (and that the Turks would be smart enough to understand that this would eventually benefit them in a great number of ways)....ah but - such is just a dream eh?

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          • #55
            Originally posted by 1.5 million View Post
            The "issue" of Turkey "returning" lands (Van, Kars, etc districts) is a total non-issue. It has nothign to do with genocide recognition per se. What I would hope for however - is that once Turkey and the Turks grow up a bit and become more enlightened - that they will not only recognize the Armenian genocide (fully as such) and be truly remorseful - but that they will welcome individual Armenians back - perhaps allowing some form of dual or special citizenship - and that they will offer compensation - in a sense - for Armenians to return to historical lands and establish businesses and such so once again they might prosper and be able to practice their culture in their traditional heartland (and that the Turks would be smart enough to understand that this would eventually benefit them in a great number of ways)....ah but - such is just a dream eh?

            Yeah, you are a dreamer to think that Armenians would welcome such a stupid and ill-advised solution. Your plan fits turkish plan B to a "t".

            No sane Armenian would live on land controlled by turks. Therefore, all of Western Armenia will be returned to Armenia.

            BTW, funny turks with your statistics, you only do well when your enemy is unarmed, the numbers are highly in favor but technology will take care of that.

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            • #56
              Originally posted by Varouj View Post
              Therefore, all of Western Armenia will be returned to Armenia.
              You call me a dreamer?

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              • #57
                GFP Ranking

                Updated 09/21/2006

                1 United States
                2 Russia
                3 China
                4 India
                5 Germany
                6 France
                7 Japan
                8 Turkey
                9 Brazil
                10 Great Britain
                11 Italy
                12 South Korea
                13 Indonesia
                14 Mexico
                15 Canada
                16 Iran
                17 Egypt
                18 North Korea
                19 Spain
                20 Pakistan
                21 Australia
                22 Saudi Arabia
                23 Thailand
                24 Argentina
                25 Sweden
                26 Israel
                27 Greece
                28 Taiwan
                29 Syria
                30 Philippines
                31 Poland
                32 Ukraine
                33 Norway
                34 Iraq
                35 Libya
                36 Venezuela
                37 Lebanon
                38 Nepal
                39 Afghanistan

                Above you will find a basic ranking model of the world military powers in relation to country size. Values are based on a country's placement in our various lists and shown as a collective average. Naturally a list such as this is designed to be subjective so there is room for disagreement as to its accuracy (or inaccuracy).

                NOTE: Nuclear weapons, past and current military experience, unit training and equipment quality are not taken into account. This is a ranking based soley on the reported numbers presented throughout this site based from official disclosed public sources.

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                • #58
                  Hey spicer - does it break out the % of Turkish troops that are bogged down in the Southeast beating on Kurds...or the number occupying N Cyprus?

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                  • #59
                    I'm surprised Israel is so low on the list.

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                    • #60
                      Originally posted by 1.5 million View Post
                      Hey spicer - does it break out the % of Turkish troops that are bogged down in the Southeast beating on Kurds...or the number occupying N Cyprus?
                      It seems that his point is to show that Armenians should be itimidated by Turkey and that Turkey prefers brute force when dealing with criticism.
                      General Antranik (1865-1927): “I am not a nationalist. I recognize only one nation, the nation of the oppressed.”

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