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Armenian genocide from a Turk's point of view

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  • #61
    Now I think on it, I'm not sure either, best to check the rules to see if he violated any of them, if you're really curious I suppose, Joseph, Hovik or Tongue will tell us why

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    • #62
      why is he banned? he is a nice person. ı want him back mr joseph.

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      • #63
        bell has a temporary 2-day ban for using a personal insult in one of his posts yesterday that I had to delete. We have always been lenient with bell because he is a valuable member. At the same time, he consistently chooses to antagonize other members to amuse himself.
        General Antranik (1865-1927): “I am not a nationalist. I recognize only one nation, the nation of the oppressed.”

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        • #64
          Originally posted by Joseph View Post
          bell has a temporary 2-day ban for using a personal insult in one of his posts yesterday that I had to delete. We have always been lenient with bell because he is a valuable member. At the same time, he consistently chooses to antagonize other members to amuse himself.
          Well, Joseph, I'm glad it's not a permanent thing, he's acidic sometimes/mostly but offers a lot.

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          • #65
            Originally posted by Joseph View Post
            Turkish intellectuals who apologized for Armenian Genocide receive threats


            10.12.2008 17:26 GMT+04:00

            /PanARMENIAN.Net/ Employees of Agos Armenian-Turkish bilingual newspaper are well acquainted with the Turkish intellectuals, who apologized for the Armenian Genocide, said the editor of the Armenian sector of Agos.

            “Media somehow obtained the statement that was supposed to be promulgated on January 1, 2009. Nevertheless, they will continue their action,” Bagrat Estukyan told a news conference in Yerevan today.

            “These people present their personal viewpoint of the problem and do not impose it on anyone,” he said.

            Mr. Estukyan informed that several days after the publication of their letter, the intellectuals started receiving threats and offending messages.

            A group of Turkish intellectuals have apologized for the “great disaster that Ottoman Armenians suffered in 1915.”

            Professors Baskan Oran and Ahmet Insel, journalists Ali Bayramoglu and Cengiz Aktar personally apologized for the 1915 events.

            The group is asking other people to sign the petition, which reads as follows: “I cannot conscientiously accept the indifference to the great disaster that Ottoman Armenians suffered in 1915, and its denial. I reject this injustice and acting of my own will, I share the feelings and pains of my Armenian brothers and sisters, and I apologize to them.”

            The campaign initiators have underlined that first they will collect signatures from intellectuals and they will then open a secure website to collect signatures.

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            • #66
              Originally posted by bell-the-cat View Post
              Its days are numbered.
              Welcome back Bell, here's a bowl of warm milk with honey.

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              • #67
                Originally posted by VaheTheGreat(e) View Post
                Partially true? What about:

                “The deportation of the Kurds from the regions of Djabachdjur, Palu, and Musch and from the Vilajets of Erzerum and Bitlis was carried out in the winter of 1916.”

                My grandfather’s family was slaughtered by Kurdish bandits organized and patronized by turkish government during deportation marsh from Bitlis…. exactly in that period of time mentioned….



                What do you think this mean? What purpose it (this article) serves?

                We're not talking about the accuracy of the article as it stands,wiki is not a a medium for such purpose, but Kurds Genocide has been carried out by the Turks and that cannot be repeated enough times.Let me make this clear I feel only revolution in Turkey can severe Turkey from its guilts!
                "All truth passes through three stages:
                First, it is ridiculed;
                Second, it is violently opposed; and
                Third, it is accepted as self-evident."

                Arthur Schopenhauer (1788-1860)

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by Gavur View Post
                  We're not talking about the accuracy of the article as it stands,wiki is not a a medium for such purpose, but Kurds Genocide has been carried out by the Turks and that cannot be repeated enough times.Let me make this clear I feel only revolution in Turkey can severe Turkey from its guilts!
                  What I was saying is that this kind of articles create confusion in people who do not know very well that part of the History. What would be the impression of a person who herd about a genocide during WW1 and try to figure out what it was using this article:

                  “Well so it was rather Kurds who were slauterd in eastern Anatolia in 1915-16 and not Armenians were massacred by Turks and Kurds….”

                  You see what I mean?

                  Well I believe Kurds were massacred in Turkey and they still are … But it is not a reason for creating DESINFORMATION such as this article…
                  I have been there... I have seen ruins of St. Karapet!

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by Joseph View Post
                    bell has a temporary 2-day ban for using a personal insult in one of his posts yesterday that I had to delete. We have always been lenient with bell because he is a valuable member. At the same time, he consistently chooses to antagonize other members to amuse himself.
                    There was no "personal insult". Well, OK, suggesting Edoman might in someway resemble Winoman (in a way other than just the similarity in user names) is indeed a personal insult to Edoman - but I doubt anyone got the reference (unless Edoman is actually Winoman).
                    Plenipotentiary meow!

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by bell-the-cat View Post
                      There was no "personal insult". Well, OK, suggesting Edoman might in someway resemble Winoman (in a way other than just the similarity in user names) is indeed a personal insult to Edoman - but I doubt anyone got the reference (unless Edoman is actually Winoman).
                      I missed the reference, I thought you were calling him a drunk because you did not agree with him.
                      General Antranik (1865-1927): “I am not a nationalist. I recognize only one nation, the nation of the oppressed.”

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