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  • #11
    and what did you think?

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    • #12
      i did not want to believe the rape part especially. it was tough to watch and imagine those things happened. denying is so easy, but if it really happened, i am speechless. the soldiers were speaking Turkish and all, it seemed real,whomever watches would at least start questioning....

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      • #13
        When I watched the movie, I did not cry at all. Like, when one of my cuzins saw it, she said that she cried a little bit and was very emotional during the movie and after the movie. Like the parts about massive killings and raping, burning etc.
        Not a single tear from me though. Omg, I kind of feel bad that I didn't get very emotional about it, but I was more shocked and angry at what was happening I'm just curious to know how u all reacted to the movie and to what was happening?
        I see...

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        • #14
          Originally posted by SagGal When I watched the movie, I did not cry at all. Like, when one of my cuzins saw it, she said that she cried a little bit and was very emotional during the movie and after the movie. Like the parts about massive killings and raping, burning etc.
          Not a single tear from me though. Omg, I kind of feel bad that I didn't get very emotional about it, but I was more shocked and angry at what was happening I'm just curious to know how u all reacted to the movie and to what was happening?
          I couldn't watch the parts where they depicted the rape, and the brides being burnt, I had to look away. But same here, it was more anger than sadness.

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            Originally posted by Baron Dants I couldn't watch the parts where they depicted the rape, and the brides being burnt, I had to look away. But same here, it was more anger than sadness.
            Oh, well I watched all the parts and did not look away once. Like I said, I think I was more shocked. Like.......how can people, human beings do that??? I was really shocked and mad. OMG.
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            • #16
              well sorry to get graphic here but this is for you too diskoleil. the soldiers did lots worse. a very well documented and common act during the marches was that the soldiers would cut open the wombs of pregnant women and kill the children and rape was so rampant that the women would bury themselves up to their neck in the sand so as to avoid being raped.

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                Originally posted by TigranJamharian ..........very well documented and common act during the marches was that the soldiers would cut open the wombs of pregnant women and kill the children and rape was so rampant that the women would bury themselves up to their neck in the sand so as to avoid being raped.
                See, that's what I'm talking about. How can people actually do that? It SHOCKS the hell out of me.That's just sick. I don't get it. OMG. I am shocked, confused and mad. Human beings doing that? Omg.
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                • #18
                  Originally posted by TigranJamharian well sorry to get graphic here but this is for you too diskoleil. the soldiers did lots worse. a very well documented and common act during the marches was that the soldiers would cut open the wombs of pregnant women and kill the children and rape was so rampant that the women would bury themselves up to their neck in the sand so as to avoid being raped.
                  I just can't understand the reason for all these... Why the heck for are they killing those people in such ways? Are they ordered to do so, or are they completely insane? The person ordering these must be a mentally sick or blood thirsty person. What do they want from pregnant women even? Children? I do not know where to put all these...

                  There was one part in the movie that made me cry, the part that a young boy was killed and his watch was returned to his uncle, out of desperation and pain the uncle ran towards somewhere and he also got shot. <it was his uncle or brother cant remember well).

                  It is hard to believe human can do such violent things, such disgusting and sick things. I just could not believe it is my own people. It is just so very hard. And i have to admit that it is very difficult for me to accept those murders.

                  Can't imagine how it was to be like those who suffered all this horror... If i were there and survived i would have gone crazy i guess.

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                  • #19
                    Astvatse Metse, lav e linelou!

                    I know , there are some ppl here that r not so religious....but i am ! And i always belived that we'll say the last word in all this, with the help of God.

                    Shnorhavor Sourb Tsnounde !!!!!!!

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                    • #20
                      How very predictable.....And these people think they should join the EU. I personally think that the government never did intend to show the movie. Just some ploy they pulled in order to get visibility in the European community, and now they can all blame it on the radicals....toorkeroon radical@ vorn e?

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                      CBC News, Canada
                      Jan 7 2004

                      Turkish release of Ararat postponed indefinitely

                      CBC News Online

                      ANKARA - The Turkish release of Atom Egoyan's Ararat has been
                      postponed indefinitely because the distributor fears violence from
                      the country's nationalist groups.

                      According to Turkish news reports, right-wing extremists have
                      threatened to prevent screenings of the film, which they consider
                      anti-Turkish propaganda.

                      The movie is controversial because its subject is the campaign from 1915 to 1923 to force Armenians from eastern Turkey that left 1.5 million people dead.

                      Turkey denies it attempted genocide, saying the death toll is
                      inflated and that the killings were the result of civil unrest.

                      Egoyan, who is based in Toronto, is of Armenian heritage. He has also directed films like The Sweet Hereafter and Exotica.

                      Turkey's government had approved the film for release after one
                      scene, which depicted Ottoman soldiers raping Armenian women, was cut.

                      Sabahattin Cetin, the owner of the company that bought the Turkish rights to Ararat, said in a television interview he would put off releasing the film.

                      "Would you want to watch a movie in a movie theatre that could be stoned or where there could be violence?" he asked.

                      He added that the government had offered to deploy police officers at theatres, which he declined.

                      Cetin said he had asked the leader of the far-right Nationalist
                      Movement Party, Devlet Bahceli, to convince nationalists to stop
                      their threats against the film.

                      But Bahceli said he never received such a request, and questioned Cetin's motives for trying to screen the film.

                      "It would be in our interest to investigate why a film that is
                      against the Turkish nation has been imported into Turkey," Bahceli
                      said.
                      Last edited by xBaron Dants; 01-08-2004, 10:15 PM.

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