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  • #21
    DGAR millat.
    inch esem.
    aboosh joghovourt.. HIMAGVA SEROUNTIN EH KHOSK-S AYO.
    GADEM.
    gadem
    gadem.
    tserk-s cheh.

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    • #22
      Originally posted by jahannam DGAR millat.
      inch esem.
      aboosh joghovourt.. HIMAGVA SEROUNTIN EH KHOSK-S AYO.
      GADEM.
      gadem
      gadem.
      tserk-s cheh.

      hahahahahhaahhahahhaahhaa. Can't help but agree. As much as I try to see something positive, they just strengthen the anger.

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      • #23
        You know the thing is that the Turkish goverment gathered all the killers, murderers from the prisons for this reason,.....they were called "chetens" , the soldiers, and their leader was a soldier or something....

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        • #24
          I am so mad they cut out the part when the woman was raped and her poor baby was right there....... I am an emotional person, but I did not cry. I just felt mad, angry, and helpless

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          • #25
            It is really very difficult to believe all those things happened really, as a Turk i felt like saying 'no such thing happened!!, never, no way' etc... but couldnt help asking 'what if it really happened?' I cant find any excuse that will bring some relief... But on the other hand, if it really happened as it was shown in the movie, cant imagine the pain Armenian people would feel when they watch it... It is difficult for both sides... cos we are really not the kind of people that enjoys other people's sorrow...

            Even though the movie was censored cut and all that, it is still a significant improvement that they actually show it to the public, cos whomever watched it will start questioning and try to find out more about it...

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            • #26
              Well diksoliel, with the rise of Nationalism and mass mindedness that comes with any nation-state, such is the result if you are not "us" you are "them".

              The Young Turks were involved in what we call Pan-Turkism, or "Turkification" since they were influenced by nationalism from Europe. This meant that all those who were not Turkified Muslims, had to either be expunged or converted forcefully. It is implied in such thinking. Turkey itself is a mixed society since half of its population is essentailly Balkan peoples that have been converted or accepted into the Jannissaries and after the loss of Balkan territory the Ottomans would simply bring thsoe Muslim populations and resettle them in Eastern Turkey at the expense of Armenians. Or they would settle Kurds and Circassians in those territories. Thus from the onset it was inevitable. Thus whole Armenian villages and people were forcefully converted or killed or deported.

              The reason the modern Turkish nation-State cannot recognize the Genocide is because that it was established on the blood and removal of those other people. To recognize the Genocide would mean to question the legitimacy of its existence.
              Achkerov kute.

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