What if ... ?

[yerazhishda]

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I agree with Hellektor; Turks are genocidal/oppressive by nature. If we Armenians are not on our toes 24/7 Turks will use this to their advantage and attack us when are backs our turned. We would all do well to remember the sayings of the Tashnagtsaganner:

Amen or hishenk Artsakh@.

Amen or hishenk Javakhk@.

and let me add one more:

Amen or hishenk Arevmdian Hayasdan@!

We must never let go of our right to this land. If we do, the Turks will not relent and try to make us a part of them. You cannot be "human" or "civil" with these people. Our ancestors tried to do that and look what happened...

[Hellektor]

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Don’t you think he got some morale right confirmed by some "insignificant" historical reasons for saying that? The idea is hypothetical ofcous, and no one would say that if there would be even tiny possibility of doing that. Why don’t you give a shans to people show what they feel? I am sure our turkish friends will understand that… or wouldn’t they? 

You get the point! I hope you weren’t banned for saying this? Man, we can't say a thing against the atrocity that broke into our home a thousand years ago and used and abused us for a thousand years, destroyed our civilization while they had us build their fucking “empire”, used our boys to fight their wars as janissary, stole and raped our women and children stealing our genes to lose their mongoloid features (too bad their Mongol brain did not change), slaughtered, turkified, plundered, tortured, mutilated us whenever they pleased and when they thought they didn't need us anymore, they gave us genocide for thank you...

But let’s make “peace” with them by ceding Artsakh to these savages and let’s forget about a thousand years of genocide…

[Hellektor]

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I agree with Hellektor; Turks are genocidal/oppressive by nature. If we Armenians are not on our toes 24/7 Turks will use this to their advantage and attack us when are backs our turned. We would all do well to remember the sayings of the Tashnagtsaganner:

Amen or hishenk Artsakh@.

Amen or hishenk Javakh@.

and let me add one more:

Amen or hishenk Arevmdian Hayasdan@!

We must never let go of our right to this land. If we do, the Turks will not relent and try to make us a part of them. You cannot be "human" or "civil" with these people. Our ancestors tried to do that and look what happened...

Thanks for the pat dear yerazhishda. But be careful, the risk to get banned here is not less than on Turkic hate forums! I hope you won't get banned for your support.

P.S. I don't like the term “Western Armenia”; in fact when there's eastern/western/southern/northern in a geographic appellation, most often than not, there's something wrong with it: think of Southern/Northern “Azerbaijan”, South/North Korea, East/West Germany, etc. The bear with the largest ass on this planet never divides its butt into Eastern/Western Russia after all. Let's call our stolen homeland (in both Turkey and fake “Azerbaijan”) Turk-occupied Armenia. Kars-Ani, Ardahan, Surmalu with our enslaved Mount Ararat, all given to the genocidal parasites through a bestial orgy between the Jew-Tatar Lenin and doenmeh Jew Kemal in 1921 are part of “Eastern Armenia”, right?

[Hellektor]

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I appreciated your post.

Thanks for the support, dear gmd.

[may]

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BTW, for an incidental user who might wonder, this is the post that got me banned from the other, rather pro-Turk “Armenian” forum

Just a sec, I noticed a change in the forum, but did not notice that forum changed its lovely Pro-Turk stance.

I really want to stay around to see the level and creativity of the insults. After seeing the "mild" ones in pro-Turk forum, this new experience will be mind blowing, I'm sure.

[bell-the-cat]

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Just a sec, I noticed a change in the forum, but did not notice that forum changed its lovely Pro-Turk stance.

I really want to stay around to see the level and creativity of the insults. After seeing the "mild" ones in pro-Turk forum, this new experience will be mind blowing, I'm sure.

Forget it May - you MUST have better things to do!
"Hyeclub" is a cesspit, full of vermin. I hope that the one thing you come away with is a realisation that 99% of diaspora Armenians do not want any form of positive engagement regarding Armenian Genocide issues. It is probably a good thing that armeniangenocide.org has gone - its on-the-surface mildness and reasonableness and serious intent could delude visitors for a while into thinking engagement is possible only to seriously let them down later. It is better to learn the truth as early as possible.

[Anonymouse]

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You get the point! I hope you weren’t banned for saying this? Man, we can't say a thing against the atrocity that broke into our home a thousand years ago and used and abused us for a thousand years, destroyed our civilization while they had us build their fucking “empire”, used our boys to fight their wars as janissary, stole and raped our women and children stealing our genes to lose their mongoloid features (too bad their Mongol brain did not change), slaughtered, turkified, plundered, tortured, mutilated us whenever they pleased and when they thought they didn't need us anymore, they gave us genocide for thank you...

But let’s make “peace” with them by ceding Artsakh to these savages and let’s forget about a thousand years of genocide…

You know, I am all for Armenian brotherhood and recognition of the genocide but you seriously have to stop being so dramatic and insulting in all of your posts. You possess great knowledge and seem to be a great writer and I've read your posts before, so let's be more rational and less emotional. And lest you think I am somehow "pro-Turkish" because of this post (and I know I will earn the ire of some of our more ardent nationalists on these forums), I beg to differ, for the only thing that matters to me is the fluidity of this forum without being hampered by needless and petty insults and drama.

Many Armenians and non-Armenians read this forum who are not members but lurkers. If we expect to win people over to our cause, we should do so in a civil fashion and on the merits of our arguments, not appeals to emotions and insults. What sort image do you think we project to these anonymous readers to whom we are pleading and making our case?

For a little people, we Armenians do a lot more barking than biting. We are a small insignificant country with our populations in disarray around the globe. Let's settle down.

[bell-the-cat]

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Many Armenians and non-Armenians read this forum who are not members but lurkers. If we expect to win people over to our cause, we should do so in a civil fashion and on the merits of our arguments, not appeals to emotions and insults. What sort image do you think we project to these anonymous readers to whom we are pleading and making our case?

For a little people, we Armenians do a lot more barking than biting. We are a small insignificant country with our populations in disarray around the globe. Let's settle down.

Wow, how have you managed to survive for so long? Or is the above a one-off?

[Joseph]

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Forget it May - you MUST have better things to do!
"Hyeclub" is a cesspit, full of vermin. I hope that the one thing you come away with is a realisation that 99% of diaspora Armenians do not want any form of positive engagement regarding Armenian Genocide issues. It is probably a good thing that armeniangenocide.org has gone - its on-the-surface mildness and reasonableness and serious intent could delude visitors for a while into thinking engagement is possible only to seriously let them down later. It is better to learn the truth as early as possible.

I'm dissapointed as well. I was never told by admin that we were switching to this new forum.

[Joseph]

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Just a sec, I noticed a change in the forum, but did not notice that forum changed its lovely Pro-Turk stance.

I really want to stay around to see the level and creativity of the insults. After seeing the "mild" ones in pro-Turk forum, this new experience will be mind blowing, I'm sure.

May, I hate to say this but if I were you I would leave now. Even though you have acknowledged the Genocide and are very intelligent and reasonable, many of the folks here will cause you nothing but grief with their fascism.

Nothing against this forum but it was nothing like what we had before. For all www.armeniangenocide.com's shortcomings, it was generally hospitable or at least becoming so.

Sorry.