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  • #51
    Re: Israel will be reconize the Armenian Genocide ?

    Originally posted by Hellektor View Post
    In just three short sentences, 16 words long in all, you have managed to resort to a whole bunch of fallacies.

    Among others, the fallacy of:

    1. Ad hominem against Wilson: “You are not a jerk, Wilson is.”
    2. Ad hominem against me: “You are a JOKE.”
    3. Sneering and mockery: “My bad, sorry,”
    4. Avoiding the subject.
    5. Arrogance and condescending.

    There's a good reason why one resorts to fallacy: lack of reason and bad reasoning. Turks are well known for their weak logic and you are not an exception.

    I can bet my life you'll do one of the following:

    1. Reply by resorting to more fallacy.
    2. Avoid replying, which is a proof of your lack of reasoning.

    One more time: my being a joke or Wilson's being a jerk does not diminish the value of the Wilson Arbitration. Nothing does. It's there and it's only a matter of time that it will grab you by the throat and will squeeze it so hard you'll be sorry you stole my home in the first place.

    Your predictable reaction to this post will be the proof of YOU being the joke, a sick one that is.
    You are a talented provocateur, Hellektor, my hands are tied! Whatever I write, or even not writing will make me fall into one category that you invented. Believe me, you made me laugh this time (I mean it).

    I want to add another option for my lack of response to you: You are not worth spending time. I am already sorry for my last response, not because of its one line of content but a minute it took from my life, making my keyboard to last few minutes less, use electricity for nothing for a minute etc. Please approve my status, Count Hellektor, the governor of Armenian land

    It is sad to see some organisms using the same oxygen level with others, yet producing only real and verbal "feces". What a waste! It is not surprising that you can bet your life that easily.

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    • #52
      Re: Israel will be reconize the Armenian Genocide ?

      From what I heard last, he is a savvy historian. What do you do?
      Hm. I don't shout, I don't blame every single Turk for what happened to us (especially the Turks accepting what happened), I'm working on a massive project that could throw a new light on the AG, Armenia, etc., and I'm not a nationalist. If Hellektor is a historian, he should learn how to teach it to people. He's simply a screamer right now and people are starting to get annoyed.

      My friend is absolutely right! We will get our land back one way or the other!!!!!!!
      I agree with you Anoush jan, we have built every thing there and it will be back ours. One way or an other.
      Beautiful, absolutely. Sad thing is, that will never happen unless 70 Million people die. Or maybe that's OK for you guys as well. You people seem to be thinking only about the land, lol, even when you know you won't get it all back! The saddest part is, you are forgetting that while you people "dream", hundreds of opportunities to help our country fly by and when you realize how much you've been wasting your time, it'll be too late.
      THE ROAD TO FREEDOM AND JUSTICE IS A LONG ONE!

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      • #53
        Re: Israel will be reconize the Armenian Genocide ?

        Originally posted by Saco View Post
        Hm. I don't shout, I don't blame every single Turk for what happened to us (especially the Turks accepting what happened), I'm working on a massive project that could throw a new light on the AG, Armenia, etc., and I'm not a nationalist. If Hellektor is a historian, he should learn how to teach it to people. He's simply a screamer right now and people are starting to get annoyed.




        Beautiful, absolutely. Sad thing is, that will never happen unless 70 Million people die. Or maybe that's OK for you guys as well. You people seem to be thinking only about the land, lol, even when you know you won't get it all back! The saddest part is, you are forgetting that while you people "dream", hundreds of opportunities to help our country fly by and when you realize how much you've been wasting your time, it'll be too late.
        Saco, What is it that you are trying to achieve with provoking Hellector and Anoush?
        B0zkurt Hunter

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        • #54
          Re: Israel will be reconize the Armenian Genocide ?

          Eddo jan, I'm only trying to stop them from being so racist/nationalistic. How can you say "you'll be sorry you stole my home in the first place." ??? He judges everyone as equals. Forgive me if I'm wrong but I think May and many others accepted the AG and talking to them as if THEY were the ones that killed our ancestors is extremely wrong and a wrong move no matter how you look at it. What many Turks accepting the AG think is that no matter what happens, we Armenians will still never appreciate what they do or are doing. So naturally, many will back away. Is that what we want? If so, forgive me, I may be on the wrong forum. Racism and Nationalism has become a norm it seems. May is not our enemy and even if he/she was wrong about anything being discussed, talking in a very rude manner is not right. The hate in Hellektor is blasting out of his eyes no matter where you talk to him. If May talks badly then let us not throw more petrol on the fire. I know I just did that myself but only because I was disgusted by what our historian just said and has said on many occasions. Then he expects people to listen to us. Keep dreaming!
          THE ROAD TO FREEDOM AND JUSTICE IS A LONG ONE!

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          • #55
            Re: Israel will be reconize the Armenian Genocide ?

            Originally posted by Hellektor View Post
            I can bet my life you'll do one of the following:

            1. Reply by resorting to more fallacy.
            2. Avoid replying, which is a proof of your lack of reasoning.
            Fallacy upon fallacy:

            Originally posted by may View Post
            It is sad to see some organisms using the same oxygen level with others, yet producing only real and verbal "feces". What a waste!
            Fallacy of Weak Analogy.

            It is sadder that some organisms use the same oxygen and don't even produce, but only rape, torture, lie, plunder, kill and destroy.

            Originally posted by may View Post
            You are a talented provocateur, Hellektor, my hands are tied!
            Ad Hominem, resorting to mockery.

            Originally posted by may View Post
            Whatever I write, or even not writing will make me fall into one category that you invented.
            Avoiding the Issue.

            Originally posted by may View Post
            Believe me, you made me laugh this time (I mean it).
            Ad Hominem, resorting to mockery.

            Originally posted by may View Post
            I want to add another option for my lack of response to you: You are not worth spending time. I am already sorry for my last response, not because of its one line of content but a minute it took from my life, making my keyboard to last few minutes less, use electricity for nothing for a minute etc.
            Ad Hominem, Appeal to Ridicule, condescending and conceit. Yet you resort to the fallacy of contradicting yourself by reducing the life of your keyboard many times more.

            Originally posted by may View Post
            Please approve my status, Count Hellektor, the governor of Armenian land
            Ad Hominem, Appeal to Ridicule.

            Originally posted by may View Post
            It is not surprising that you can bet your life that easily.
            I know your species too well to run the danger of risking a dime.

            What the hell, I'll do the same. You get what you ask for:

            Hell Doctor Laboratories have diagnosed the severe mental condition of the Turk beyond repair. The Turk lives in a world of fantasies and fallacies.

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            • #56
              Re: Israel will be reconize the Armenian Genocide ?

              Originally posted by Anoush View Post
              From what I heard last, he is a savvy historian. What do you do? Or who are you that you're crudely calling others names forgetting your place?
              Dear Anoush, I am flattered. I am no historian, you are being too kind

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              • #57
                Re: Israel will be reconize the Armenian Genocide ?

                Originally posted by Hellektor View Post
                Dear Anoush, I am flattered. I am no historian, you are being too kind
                Dear Hellektor jan; well if you aren't a historian, you could've fooled me. If not, then you are a genius and very well read that I got the impression that you are friend. Plus you are a strong minded "Hayaser". A trait that is very dear to me baregam.

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                • #58
                  Re: Israel will be reconize the Armenian Genocide ?

                  Hellektor jan; May on one side has said that she's wasting her time talking to you then she is spooing and spitting dirt all over against you. If I were you friend, I wouldn't pay mind to her/him not worth it. Their stolen lands, made up country and mixed up people will lose out comletely (it's only a matter of time) baregam. Like I said before, we will get our own lands back one way or the other. And we will kiss our forefather's lands while we're alive. Not to worry.

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                  • #59
                    Re: Israel will be reconize the Armenian Genocide ?

                    Originally posted by Saco View Post
                    Hm. I don't shout, I don't blame every single Turk for what happened to us (especially the Turks accepting what happened), I'm working on a massive project that could throw a new light on the AG, Armenia, etc., and I'm not a nationalist. If Hellektor is a historian, he should learn how to teach it to people. He's simply a screamer right now and people are starting to get annoyed.
                    The point is, those lands, our buildings and our riches that you've been sitting on has been ours and belongs to us. Your anscestors came from Mongolia.


                    Beautiful, absolutely. Sad thing is, that will never happen unless 70 Million people die. Or maybe that's OK for you guys as well. You people seem to be thinking only about the land, lol, even when you know you won't get it all back! The saddest part is, you are forgetting that while you people "dream", hundreds of opportunities to help our country fly by and when you realize how much you've been wasting your time, it'll be too late.
                    No, we are not killers like your kind, your anscestors, instead you can go back where you all came from (Mongolia).

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                    • #60
                      Re: Israel will be reconize the Armenian Genocide ?

                      با پنبه سر مي بره

                      A Persian saying, meaning he chops off heads by using cottonwool.

                      Originally posted by Saco View Post
                      Maybe this is a sick joke as well ... or maybe your just a racist clown that forgot where his circus is !
                      Revealing more of your true colors by the post. And you resort to the same fallacies.

                      Originally posted by Saco View Post
                      Eddo jan, I'm only trying to stop them from being so racist/nationalistic. How can you say "you'll be sorry you stole my home in the first place." ??? He judges everyone as equals. Forgive me if I'm wrong but I think May and many others accepted the AG and talking to them as if THEY were the ones that killed our ancestors is extremely wrong and a wrong move no matter how you look at it. What many Turks accepting the AG think is that no matter what happens, we Armenians will still never appreciate what they do or are doing. So naturally, many will back away. Is that what we want? If so, forgive me, I may be on the wrong forum. Racism and Nationalism has become a norm it seems. May is not our enemy and even if he/she was wrong about anything being discussed, talking in a very rude manner is not right. The hate in Hellektor is blasting out of his eyes no matter where you talk to him. If May talks badly then let us not throw more petrol on the fire. I know I just did that myself but only because I was disgusted by what our historian just said and has said on many occasions. Then he expects people to listen to us. Keep dreaming!
                      Racist, racist, racist, my ass. Stop labeling. It's not a race issue. Turks are not a race. Racially you are more Armenian/Greek/Balkan than Turk. Real Turks, from the point of view of race live in Uzbekistan, Kyrgyzstan, Uyguristan, Mongolia, etc.

                      Originally posted by Saco View Post
                      Beautiful, absolutely. Sad thing is, that will never happen unless 70 Million people die. Or maybe that's OK for you guys as well. You people seem to be thinking only about the land, lol, even when you know you won't get it all back!
                      I am neither a racist, nor a nationalist. Turks broke into our home, used and abused us for 9 centuries, destroyed our civilization, slaughtered our nation to steal our homeland. Our issue with Turks is territorial. If that's not important why don't you let Artsakh alone and let us be, instead of using every filthy method of lies, falsification and propaganda? All you crave for is the little piece of land we took back with huge sacrifices, beating your hairless Tatar asses despite the war and genocide you perpetrated.

                      Why don't you show a grain of humanity and keep your paws off Artsakh? You cry all the time that you conquered our land and that you won't give it back, so why can't you have an iota of decency and accept that we re-conquered a little part of our home?

                      Fifteen goddamn years after you suffered a miserable defeat, all you think of is getting “back” that little piece of historic Armenian territory, instead of getting on with your lives, sell oil and become prosperous. You artificially keep the displaced in the open and parade them to the world instead of housing them in 120,000 or so Armenian houses you usurped through acts of genocide, yet you snivel and wail of the condition of your “refugees” and whimper and howl to the world that you'll buy billions of oil dollars worth of arms to destroy Armenia to steal Artsakh that has never, ever belonged to you historically, morally, in terms of justice or international law.

                      I don't want to kill anyone, I want the Armenian state to raise the Wilson Arbitration issue that according to international law considers that part of our homeland you see in my avatar Armenian territory, which all in all is not more than 40% of historic Armenia. This is necessary to guarantee the natural and safe existence, growth and progress of the Armenian nation in such a hostile region. I don't give a shit about some hypocritical politicians shedding crocodile tears in the guise of Armenian Genocide recognition.
                      Last edited by Hellektor; 02-16-2009, 07:36 AM.

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