Who was responsible for orchestrating the 1915 Armenian genocide?

[choopy]

If you were to put a face to the whole thing, whose would it be?

The 3 pashas? Ataturk? etc...

[Federate]

Re: Who was responsible for orchestrating the 1915 Armenian genocide?

While I encourage such questions to be asked, I am surprised and disappointed that this question still remains unanswered for Armenians. The answer to this question is as basic as "when were the Armenian intellectuals first rounded up" (1915, 24 April).

Ataturk was not in power when the AG was first planned and orchestrated. Here are your faces "to the whole thing":






The goal? Something to the likes of this, with the inclusion of Armenia in the red paint:

[choopy]

Re: Who was responsible for orchestrating the 1915 Armenian genocide?

Yep, the 3 Pashas. If you'd read my post properly, I had named them first in my short list of WHO DUNNITS. Just wanted to make sure...

Be disappointed all you want. I never even said I was Armenian...

thanks.

[bell-the-cat]

Re: Who was responsible for orchestrating the 1915 Armenian genocide?

A face has a head behind it, and that has a brain inside it, and has limbs to do its bidding. So the question is not basic, but it is disappointing that nobody has ever bothered to answer it.

[merhayrenik]

Re: Who was responsible for orchestrating the 1915 Armenian genocide?

The central asian muslim invading vermin, it's wrong to put the blame on an individual.
Their entire race is at fault.

[may]

Re: Who was responsible for orchestrating the 1915 Armenian genocide?

Are the Turks only to blame for what happened? For instance, did the Europeans have some responsibility as well? Do you think we should ask this question to ourselves? I think, yes, we should. If we ask this about past, we can better determine what we can do today more clearly. We all have responsibilities, Europeans too, have some responsibilities for this tragedy. But now, we have ways to cure this wound.

Turkey may look dark, pessimistic, fundamentally religious, nationalist when you look from outside. I am coming from this country, but this country is not a dark place. It is enlightning and we are trying to help this enlightment.

Turks and Armenians must face each other, understand each other, face the history, break the lock and get over it.

[hrai]

Re: Who was responsible for orchestrating the 1915 Armenian genocide?

Are the Turks only to blame for what happened? For instance, did the Europeans have some responsibility as well? Do you think we should ask this question to ourselves? I think, yes, we should. If we ask this about past, we can better determine what we can do today more clearly. We all have responsibilities, Europeans too, have some responsibilities for this tragedy. But now, we have ways to cure this wound.

Turkey may look dark, pessimistic, fundamentally religious, nationalist when you look from outside. I am coming from this country, but this country is not a dark place. It is enlightning and we are trying to help this enlightment.

Turks and Armenians must face each other, understand each other, face the history, break the lock and get over it.

Europeans have some responsibilities but may, THE BLAME rests with turks.
That blame cannot be diluted or dissolved.

[Alexandros]

Re: Who was responsible for orchestrating the 1915 Armenian genocide?

Europeans have some responsibilities but may, THE BLAME rests with turks.
That blame cannot be diluted or dissolved.

In that case, we should blame ALL Germans for the holocaust; ALL Americans for the Genocide against the native Indians; ALL Serbs for the Genocide against the Bosnian Muslims in Srebrenica: to blame a whole people for a Genocide that their Government committed is wrong!

We should actually commend may, hitite and all other Turks for having the courage to say the "G" word considering that the History books in Turkey do not mention about any Genocide against the Christians - let alone how sensitive this issue is for many Turks.

[hrai]

Re: Who was responsible for orchestrating the 1915 Armenian genocide?

In that case, we should blame ALL Germans for the holocaust; ALL Americans for the Genocide against the native Indians; ALL Serbs for the Genocide against the Bosnian Muslims in Srebrenica: to blame a whole people for a Genocide that their Government committed is wrong!

We should actually commend may, hitite and all other Turks for having the courage to say the "G" word considering that the History books in Turkey do not mention about any Genocide against the Christians - let alone how sensitive this issue is for many Turks.

Did I use the word ALL in my post? Think not.......................Jump on somebodies neck, but if you want to do that, read the post carefully first.
Europeans carry some responsibility for the AG, the BLAME RESTS WITH TURKS, that blame cannot be put on any other shoulders.
The government didn't commit the Genocide on their own. THE PEOPLE did, yes under instruction, but the people did it.
The soldier, shopkeeper,cafe owner, farmer, baker,cook, the man in the street. The ordinary people carried out orders, but carried them out nontheless.
If you don't understand that, then you must believe the SS guards who were "just following orders" are innocent too.

[Alexandros]

Re: Who was responsible for orchestrating the 1915 Armenian genocide?

Did I use the word ALL in my post? Think not.......................Jump on somebodies neck, but if you want to do that, read the post carefully first.
Europeans carry some responsibility for the AG, the BLAME RESTS WITH TURKS, that blame cannot be put on any other shoulders.
The government didn't commit the Genocide on their own. THE PEOPLE did, yes under instruction, but the people did it.
The soldier, shopkeeper,cafe owner, farmer, baker,cook, the man in the street. The ordinary people carried out orders, but carried them out nontheless.
If you don't understand that, then you must believe the SS guards who were "just following orders" are innocent too.

The government didn't commit the Genocide on their own. THE PEOPLE did, yes under instruction, but the people did it.

The soldier, shopkeeper,cafe owner, farmer, baker,cook, the man in the street. The ordinary people carried out orders, but carried them out nontheless.

How wrong you are - AGAIN!The Turkish people didn`t commit the genocide against the Christians: It was the Turkish soldiers and Kurdish gangs that was ordered by the Ottoman government to wipe out the Christians.Be careful the next time with your generalizations.

If you don't understand that, then you must believe the SS guards who were "just following orders" are innocent too.

What does a baker have in common with a SS guard?Were there some Turkish civilian who participated in the Genocide against the Christians?Probably so.But your post makes it sound as this Genocide was committed by ALL Turks which is not correct because there were also some Turks who saved Christians from the Genocide.