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    Dear Honorable Senator Feinstein,

    I am a Professor of International Relations, and I received my
    educational degrees from American schools, including a B.A., two
    Masters and a Doctorate (Syracuse University, 1959).

    I devoted three decades of my life, inter alia, to the study of
    Armeno-Turkish relations, on which I published no less than eighty
    books/booklets. Three of the most recent ones were printed in New
    York. They are entitled: (1) Armenian Falsifications (2008), (2) What
    Happened to the Ottoman Armenians? (2006), and (3) The British Blue
    Books: Vehicles of War Propaganda, 1914-18. I shall do my best to mail
    to you a copy of each of the last-mentioned three publications.

    You may also be interested in knowing that I am presently on a rather
    long speaking tour of the United States that will eventually total no
    less than thirty-six public addresses, mostly in various universities
    and a few meetings with some US Congress members, or their chief
    advisors.

    I have in my possession now the draft resolution pertaining to the
    Armenians, prepared by a group of members of the House. I have also
    seen your reply to Mrs. Nisan Giftgi on the same question.

    Both the text, prepared by Mr. Schiff and co-sponsored by some other
    House Members, and your private letter, reflect a totally one-sided
    and biased approach that omits crucial facts and presents a distorted
    picture that has no relation with the actual events in history. I have
    no intention to take this opportunity to reply to the inaccurate
    assertions, outright exaggerations and scandalous omissions. A proper
    response can only be expressed in book form. You may consider that I
    have done this in the eighty publications since the early 1980s.

    I may underline here that it is the duty of scholarship to question
    the validity of a mainstream idea. The idea in this case happens to be
    a prejudiced attitude or the equivalent of a "trial" in your Congress,
    where you as "prosecutors" and "judges" are trying to pass through a
    "verdict", moreover in the name of the American people.

    The draft resolution does not take into account any Turkish view. It
    does not seem to have taken into any consideration even Armenian
    confessions, expressed in memoirs, war histories, series of articles
    and official communications, all describing how armed Armenians,
    acting as independent units or in the ranks of Turkey's enemies,
    killed Turks and other Muslims. Those Armenian and some third party
    sources agree that both armed Armenians and their victims had reached
    six-digit figures. There exist a host of reliable documents and
    acknowledgements to this effect in published works as well as in the
    archives of the interested parties. A total disregard of this wealth
    of information goes to prove that the US Congress is not the place to
    pass a verdict on this topic.

    The draft resolution is basically a product of the Armenian ethnic
    lobby, well-organized and well-to-do but already facing a complaint
    registered with the US Department of Justice, the Internal Revenue
    Service, the Clerk of the House and the Secretary of the Senate.

    I wish to come to your short reply to Mrs. Giftgy, in which you state
    the following: "We must remember and recognize this tragedy to ensure
    that it never happens again".

    Your generalization, which misses the point entirely, is misleading in
    ways more than one. It is a rationalization that may comfort you but
    actually helps to hide the origins of genocide. Unless you are able to
    accept the correct diagnosis of the true source of this brand of
    crime, massacres will occur, thanks in part to such incorrect
    assessments.

    I shall put aside the fact that you are virtually under the arrest of
    carefully-selected justifications, with absolutely no mention of
    opposing documentation. You have never become a part of scholarly
    debate on that issue. For instance, a prominent British source
    (Stephen Pope and Elizabeth-Anne Wheal, Dictionary of the First World
    War) recorded that between 1 and 1.5 million Armenians were living in
    Turkey in 1914, and that the Armenians "slaughtered an estimated
    120,000 non-Armenians while the Turkish Army was preoccupied with
    mobilization." It adds that the armed Armenians attacked the Turkish
    quarters of the Ottoman city of Van in April 1915, and proclaimed
    there a government of their own, seceding in the process this province
    from the State. This was the beginning of Armenian massacres, pillage
    and rape directed against the non-Armenians.

    Notable Armenians (such as the first Prime Minister of independent
    Armenia Hovhannes Katchaznouni, K. Serope Papazian), British
    functionaries (Captain C.B.Norman, A.G.Hume-Braman, Sidney Whitman)
    and men-of-letters (C.F. Dixon-Johnson, Bernard Lewis, Roderic
    Daveson, Andrew Mango, Norman Stone), Russian officers (General
    Mayevski, Lieutenant-Colonel Tverdo-Khlebov, Captain I.G. Plat,
    Dr.Khoreshenov), American academics (Dr. Cyrus Hamlin, William L.
    Langer, Stanford J.Shaw, Justin McCarthy, Heath W. Lowry, Edward J.
    Erickson, Guenther Lewy), men from legal professions (Samuel A. Weems)
    and many others do not share the mainstream opinion about the
    "innocence" of the Armenians. You may kindly familiarize yourself with
    such sources. Fact-finding in history demands that all relevant parts
    of the truth is taken into consideration.

    Let me come back to your misleading generalization that you intend to
    end genocide by punishing the Turks. I have to underline that genocide
    is a product of racism; and racism was born and rose in certain parts
    of the Western world. It is an offshoot of a particular level in the
    development of the capitalist society; it is the result of an advanced
    stage of a certain mode of production. It is like a hand and a glove
    with the process of colonial and imperialist exploitation.

    One may believe to be "different" from the "other", in terms of
    racial, ethnical or religious background. But when this difference is
    regarded as innate and unchangeable, and moreover, justifying a sense
    of superiority over the other, then, one is confronted with a racist
    attitude or a set of beliefs, which also expresses itself in the
    practices, institutions and structures which help to justify it.
    Racism theorizes about human differences and things badly about
    another group. It proposes to establish an order, a permanent group
    hierarchy believed to reflect "laws of nature" or even God's
    preference. This is what the British, French, German, Spanish, Dutch
    and, the Americans have done in various parts of Asia, Africa, and
    Latin America.

    Racism has two components: difference and power. It originates in the
    mind that regards "them" as different from "us", and the difference is
    supposed to be permanent and unbridgeable. Government-sanctioned
    segregation, colonial subjugation, exclusion, enslavement and genocide
    may follow that racist orientation. White supremacy, Christian
    selectivity, and anti-semitism are the result. The Blacks, the
    Muslims, and the xxxs were tolerated as long as they stayed in "their
    place". In some Western societies, racism was fully worked out,
    elaborately implemented, and carried to its extremes.

    There is no racism in the Turkish psyche. It has never been a part of
    the Turks' social, political, and psychological set-up. They are the
    ones who recognized the Orthodox, Armenian, xxxish, Catholic, and
    Protestants as separate peoples with the right to worship in their own
    way, built their own religious structures, elect their own
    representatives and be led by them, go anywhere within the large
    confides of the State, indulge in any kind of profession or work, and
    eventually join the State administration. This is known, dear Senator,
    as the famous "millet" system about which you give no hint of having
    accumulated sufficient knowledge. The Turks achieved all that when
    Europe was fighting religious wars, when Cromwell was pursuing his
    Catholics, the French butchering their Huguenots, and others subduing
    the Calvinists.

    The Turks recognized the Armenians as a separate community as early as
    1461 when the Christian centers virtually excommunicated this
    Gregorian people for centuries. Consequently, the Ottoman Foreign
    Minister only a year before the outbreak of the First World War was an
    Armenian – Gabriel Nouradoungian. Would Hitler appoint a xxx to be his
    Minister of Foreign Affairs? Did even the Weimar Republic do that?
    Antisemitism, thus, is a disease of the Western societies. Hitler did
    not learn anything from the Turks. There was enough racism accumulated
    in Germany, Austria, and in some other Western nation-states. They
    were the ones who gave to the world racist theoreticians – for
    instance, Gobineau in France, Chamberlain in Britain, Nietzche in
    Germany, and the Social Darwinists in the United States.

    The Turks, on the other hand had saved the whole of European xxxry
    from total extinction during the Inquisition in 1492. Turkey was a
    place of refuge for all of those running away from Russian autocracy,
    the failure of the 1830 and the 1848 Revolutions, the setback of the
    progressive political movements in Hungary, Poland, and elsewhere and
    of course the onslaught of Fascism in Italy, and Nazism in Germany.
    Likewise, the Turks made no contribution to racist theories, but
    presented to world civilization the celebrated Renaissance men such as
    Sinan the Architect, Yunus Emre the great humanist poet, and Ibni Sina
    whose book on medicine was utilized as the basic text book in all
    schools of medicine in Europe for 300 consecutive years.

    But the Catholic missionaries from France and Protestant missionaries
    from the United States came to Ottoman Turkey to "teach" the Gregorian
    Armenians that they were "superior" to the Muslim Turks, by virtue of
    the fact they happen to be Christians. An American Protestant
    missionary (A.W.Williams) and the president of the Armenian Patriotic
    Alliance in New York (M.S. Gabriel), in their joint book, printed in
    Chicago as late as 1896, or only four years before our entry into the
    twentieth century, wrote the following on the Turks: "... the Turk is
    not a member of the best human race- the Indo-European, or Arian, like
    the Armenians. The Turk does not belong even to the next best of
    races, the semitic...the Turk is a wild beast to be caged. [We] beg
    pardon of the hounds, hyenas...and all wild beasts for using their
    names in simile or metaphor..." It is unfortunate that racist
    publications have become the teachers of a number of parliamentarians
    and conditioned them, along with the organized and politicized
    propaganda of the Armenian pressure groups who are so active in
    Washington, D.C.

    However, such an assault on the Turks, and their views represents
    something like a lynch mob. One should note that such an attitude may
    well augur the advent of a new form of a totalitarian society.

    You are merely helping the Armenians to redefine their identity as a
    group of "victims". In Freudian terms of psychology, this form of
    selection is called "the egoism of victimization" that totally
    disregards the bloodshed and the trauma that the so-called "victims"
    have caused to others. Such a distorted version of events contradicts
    what actually happened in history. Throughout the First World War
    there was a non stop news coverage in the Western Allied press on the
    Armenians. Non of the attacks, destruction, murder, massacre, theft,
    pillage, and rape by the Armenians were ever reported. There was even
    a law against such reporting, on the basis of "aiding the enemy". In
    the meantime, however, the Ottoman Armenians had joined hands with
    Turkey's enemies who provided that minority with weapons, ammunition,
    military training, uniforms, logistics, lines of communications, and
    money.

    Self-styled leaders may try to convince themselves and mislead others
    that if their selected "scapegoat" is punished, things will be right.
    This will never be the case, so long as the actual breeding source of
    genocide, which is racism, remains as it is in some Western societies.

    Best wishes,

    Türkkaya Ataöv
    Professor of International Relations

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    Re: Letter from Prof. Ataov to US Senator about Armenian-Turkish issue

    The word "xxx" was replaced by xxx somehow by the website. FYI.

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      Re: Letter from Prof. Ataov to US Senator about Armenian-Turkish issue

      It seems like J , E, W is a forbidden word here! Let's see if it will work this time.

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        Re: Letter from Prof. Ataov to US Senator about Armenian-Turkish issue

        He must be good paid man,he tries to image turks as victims of Genocide,of evil lil armenians that deserve to die cause they stand up for there right to live,he just forget the past 200 years of killng armenians genocide hapend not only during 1915 cause they just notice big population gap in the empire.
        Its like u say the xxxs all gone in 1 month before Allies Wins the Axis.
        Just stupid.
        He gived all his life to prove that genocide never hapend,good job for u looser,burn in hell u bloody bastard.

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          Re: Letter from Prof. Ataov to US Senator about Armenian-Turkish issue

          That is weak letter, and this guy is a Professor?

          He is barking from Turkey with insults mocking Senator Feinstein?………………..Turkish diplomacy at its best.
          It would be better for you Turks to just retire this old fool and put him out of his misery. He is well exposed in the States as a charlatan.
          B0zkurt Hunter

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            Re: Letter from Prof. Ataov to US Senator about Armenian-Turkish issue

            Originally posted by Eddo211 View Post
            That is weak letter, and this guy is a Professor?

            He is barking from Turkey with insults mocking Senator Feinstein?………………..Turkish diplomacy at its best.
            It would be better for you Turks to just retire this old fool and put him out of his misery. He is well exposed in the States as a charlatan.
            Is barking from Turkey a reason to be charlatan? Then, what does barking from US and re-draw the boundaries of a region you have never seen, makes you?

            Yes, this guy is a professor, and your un-recognition of him will not strip him off from his credentials. You may agree with him, or not, but I would like to know how he is well exposed as charlatan on what basis... Please enlighten me...

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            • #7
              Re: Letter from Prof. Ataov to US Senator about Armenian-Turkish issue

              Originally posted by Emrah View Post
              The word "xxx" was replaced by xxx somehow by the website. FYI.
              Yes, it's now a kiddie forum, complete with juvenille word censorship, since armeniangenocide forum merged with hyeclub forum.

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              Let's talk rude!
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              Dance round the garden in the nude,
              Pee Po Belly Bum Drawers.
              Let's write rude words all down our street,
              Stick out our tongues at the people we meet,
              Let's have an intellectual treat for
              Pee Po Belly Bum Drawers.

              Sunday again on CBC,
              Pee Po Belly Bum Drawers.
              And Norman Mailer's coming to tea,
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              Alan Ginsberg reads on and on,
              But we're having a happening when he's gone,
              Come to the party in the John,
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              Disney's planning a double bill,
              Pee Po Belly Bum Drawers.
              Christopher Robin meets Fanny Hill,
              Pooh Bear Belly Bum Drawers.
              On stage and screen we all work hard,
              Throwing toilet rolls in our own backyard,
              Who's afraid of the avant garde?
              Pee, Pee, Po, Po, Belly, Belly, Bum, Bum, Pee Po Belly Bum Drawers.
              Plenipotentiary meow!

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                Re: Letter from Prof. Ataov to US Senator about Armenian-Turkish issue

                Originally posted by may View Post
                Yes, this guy is a professor, and your un-recognition of him will not strip him off from his credentials. You may agree with him, or not, but I would like to know how he is well exposed as charlatan on what basis... Please enlighten me...
                That would require effort, the sort of effort Armenians seem to never get round to doing.
                It isn't because of writings from the likes of Ataov that the word "alleged" still gets used beside the phrase "Armenian Genocide". It is because of the lack of writings that concisely and smartly make the case and expose the propaganda, the same writings that would reveal Ataov as the charlatan he is.
                Plenipotentiary meow!

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                  Re: Letter from Prof. Ataov to US Senator about Armenian-Turkish issue

                  Originally posted by bell-the-cat View Post
                  That would require effort, the sort of effort Armenians seem to never get round to doing.
                  It isn't because of writings from the likes of Ataov that the word "alleged" still gets used beside the phrase "Armenian Genocide". It is because of the lack of writings that concisely and smartly make the case and expose the propaganda, the same writings that would reveal Ataov as the charlatan he is.
                  You know bells, I was going to put the effort in and provide info to our dear may to prove what a lying low down scum belly this guy really is and what kinds of stunts he has pulled when he was in USA but I really don’t have the time or more so the desire to prove him wrong................its not like it is going to matter to you Turks anyhow.

                  All I got to say may is..............let your conscious be your guide.
                  B0zkurt Hunter

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                    Re: Letter from Prof. Ataov to US Senator about Armenian-Turkish issue

                    Originally posted by bell-the-cat View Post
                    That would require effort, the sort of effort Armenians seem to never get round to doing.
                    It isn't because of writings from the likes of Ataov that the word "alleged" still gets used beside the phrase "Armenian Genocide". It is because of the lack of writings that concisely and smartly make the case and expose the propaganda, the same writings that would reveal Ataov as the charlatan he is.
                    I see what you mean but please don't judge Armenians based on this forum. I hope that the merger will not hurt the armeniangenocide forum.

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