The sense of loss?

[Palavra]

Re: The sense of loss?

Insulting wont prove anything.

Anyway, Germany did not accept Genocide claims. She is forced to accept.

I am still waiting my only one country which accepted a genocide law.

[Sako]

Re: The sense of loss?

All I saw in your post was " I can do that , I can do that too , I have done that"
As I said before narcism won't get you anywhere.

As I said we look with awe to Armenia , u are such an advanced nation. LOL!!!

Anyways after seeing the other posts in this forum I just decided that u guys really are hopeless...

Haha, you Turks just can't seem to stop making me laugh. You can't even read posts properly so how can we expect you to do anything else besides more crap?

If this is all you understood from my posts, your blinder then I thought. And the only reason our nation isn't a great nation today is because of your pathetic ancestors.

... And after reading all your rediculous and pretty much pointless posts, I just decided that you are the best example of an illiterate Turk who quacks ONLY what his/her people pumps into his/her brains. You didn't even try to do what I said so your much more hopeless then we ever could be, honey!

But I just want to make one thing clear , I never said that Armenians killed 800000 Turks , we had that many Turks that died during WW1 , and we had none to protect the ones that were left behind to protect the children and women from Armenian gangs that horded up on those innocent people.

Hush, little baby ... the time will come and you will understand.

[Gavur]

Re: The sense of loss?

Yeah I will pray for you ,

Actaully when your people can actually take of their horse glasses and begin interpret and understand , you can actually have a real purpose other than pursuing bs...

But as I said this is life and the way you chose is to pursue is some event which can never be proven, so keep on blaming the big bad wolf and pump up more nationalism maybe one day u can be like our little baby brother...

But brainwashing a nation with lies is bad children , dont do it!!!!

Obviously it cannot be proven to you at this time, because of ...... your overvhelming proofs????

[Sako]

Re: The sense of loss?

We(Turks) have come to Anatolia at 1071... So we can't have a history much longer than that.

I know, so tell your brothers and sisters to stop thinking we don't have 5 times the history they have. We helped them become who they are now in many, many ways. Not only Armenians but the Greeks, Persians, etc. who your nation murdered without blinking an eye. Many Turks even now days say they would love to wipe us out and that Enver and Talat should've finished their job. I respect these people more then most of the cowards in Turkey because they don't hide their past like b****s! If they have the balls to say all this then I can imagine what their grandads were like (may their souls burn in hell).

When I say rights I don't mean rights like human rights and xxxx like that we have today. You have to assess each case to the time period which it actually happend in.

In every time period, the Turks gave us crap!!! And pretty much everyone else, as well. Your sultans asked us to educate your illiterate people and after that began to kill us and stand above us. You don't know a THING about Turkish history. Not a thing.

Yeah u had to pay extra taxes and might have had less rights compared to Muslims.. But those things happened in the 1300-1900's. A muslim empire let you keep your religion and let you live in peace... The Ottoman's didnt try to assimilate or wipe ur nation out even though they conquered those lands.

So according to you, everything was hunky dory? Lol. Let me ask you something. Where do you learn about all that you know??? A simple question.

Armenians murdered the civilians when all the men had to go to WWI. We lost over 800000 people during World War 1.

Young one, you are seriously on the wrong side of the river! Who the hell told you all this? Almost all the Armenian men were murdered IN THE BEGINNING so that no one would fight against the Turkish gov. So how could 800000 civillians be murdered by the Armenians? Just listen to what your saying. I'm saying this again. Take a neautral stance and read and/or ask questions instead of looking for little holes in my posts because if I want to, I can find more holes in your entire nation then I can in space.

Yeah ur people didnt go to WW1 they stayed behind to murder the innocent women and children that were left behind.

Proof please. I have proof to back what I say. Where's yours? Stop flirting around and start talking facts. Your not the first Turk that has asked me these questions. None so far have been able to prove anything. Many never even replied like cowards. I hope you've got more brains then they did.

I won't even argue about this. Yeah Armenians have built so many great empires and ruled so many lands in the course of their history compared to the Turks.. And we actually had none.

We wouldnt even care or respond to Armenia , if we did not have this genoicide discussion. Ur nation is like a bunch of kids seeking global recognition.

Haha. And yours is such a childish nation, it thought it could get away with murdering an entire NATION. Your nation is like a bunch of cowards. Stop arguing Atila. Start asking some proper questions instead of waving your Turkish flag around madly. And just for your information, Armenia and Turkey have had a deep history together. It's not just the Genocide issue that keeps us together. I can prove this AS WELL. What can you prove? huh? Start talking facts instead of the pathetic crap your country teaches you to tell us. We've heard (and proved wrong) enough lies to last us a freakin lifetime.

Yeah it shoud be cracking you up. Because that sentence all by itself shows how ur arguement actually fails.

Or maybe you just fail to understand it with your carefully molded (by your gov.) Turkish brain. Why do you argue? Stop listening to your gov. for once. Take a neautral stance and just talk things out. If after that you still continue to think the way you do now then good luck to you. I have nothing to say. But TRY to understand us. Right now, whatever we say seems unimportant to you. Change your stance and actually try to understand what we're saying. We're not your enemies...

We have the English Army + Greeks coming from the west , we have zie russians on the east and we have the charming French + Arabs coming from the south east. To destroy the remaining bits of the Ottomans.

And in a time like this we say ok!!!! , who cares about the Ottoman Empire , lets kill all the Armenians , lets start a genoicide.

Yet the funny things is we did not attempt a genoicide on Armenians(which you claim we hate SO MUCH) for hundreds of years when we had more than enough power to murder all the Armenian population.

And you come up with this pathetic logic which makes no sense ;

Lol, I can prove you wrong with my arms tied behind my back but what will that change. You'll still say I'm wrong. You won't even try to understand what I'm saying which is based on facts. Come back when you change your Turkish attitude because I don't have time to waste. If you don't want to listen, I don't want to talk. One day you will see what we were saying.

Track of who tracks of what Ottoman Empire was destroyed after WW1

No, the Tracks of your pathetic grandfathers burning in hell right now, who didn't see anything wrong in murdering women and children of all ages. There is a lot you don't know, Atila, so change your typical Turkish attitude.

[Gavur]

Re: The sense of loss?

Like I said when you grow up you will learn through school not to believe even less to use generalitys that is basically baby food,Good luck in developing your teeth, so you can chew on adult food.

[Gavur]

Re: The sense of loss?

We(Turks)

Here's what u are claiming and if u think this is logical theres no point in writing anything actually here's how it goes;

We have the English Army + Greeks coming from the west , we have zie russians on the east and we have the charming French + Arabs coming from the south east. To destroy the remaining bits of the Ottomans.

And in a time like this we say ok!!!! , who cares about the Ottoman Empire , lets kill all the Armenians , lets start a genoicide.

Yet the funny things is we did not attempt a genoicide on Armenians(which you claim we hate SO MUCH) for hundreds of years when we had more than enough power to murder all the Armenian population.

And you come up with this pathetic logic which makes no sense ;

"it was best time to cover up your tracks" ,

track of who tracks of what Ottoman Empire was destroyed after WW1

You have no clue, your just parroting what "they" have told you,go home now you have done your duty, and take your parrot with you.

[Gavur]

Re: The sense of loss?

Armenians murdered the civilians when all the men had to go to WWI. We lost over 800000 people during World War 1.

Yeah ur people didnt go to WW1 they stayed behind to murder the innocent women and children that were left behind.

When your old enough to go to university, they will teach you there, how to separate bull shiat philosophy and scholarly work.Then and only then you can formulate a legitimate opinion, that can be mutually satisfying, whether at that point we agree or not, your opinion will be respected.

[Gavur]

Re: The sense of loss?

We(Turks) have come to Anatolia at 1071... So we can't have a history much longer than that.



When I say rights I don't mean rights like human rights and xxxx like that we have today. You have to assess each case to the time period which it actually happend in.

Yeah u had to pay extra taxes and might have had less rights compared to Muslims.. But those things happened in the 1300-1900's. A muslim empire let you keep your religion and let you live in peace... The Ottoman's didnt try to assimilate or wipe ur nation out even though they conquered those lands.

Do you think Osmanli being the minority in those lands had something to do with it?

[Gavur]

Re: The sense of loss?

Denying is the last stage of genocide .... that's your opinion. People and governments can believe what they what to believe, that's outside your control. You aren't the 'thought police' to control or dictate what people want to believe because it upsets your sensibilities. You have the right to pass judgements on their credibility and choose whether to have relations or not but I see nothing criminal in denial per se. Some of the laws you find in Germany & Switzerland etc were created post WW2 to assuage their own guilt.

Relax, take a Valium first, and than don't flatter me so, 8 stages of Genocide is worldwide accepted scholarly work, not my opinion but one that is a proven phenomena .http://forum.hyeclub.com/showthread.php?t=14740

[Gavur]

Re: The sense of loss?

Anyways I only have one question ;

We have lived together on the same land with the Armenian people for over 800 years...

Why on hell would we try to attempt a genoicide on these people , while we are losing every piece of land that we have after WWI ?.

You are losing the war on all fronts and all of a sudden the party in charge decides to wipe out the Armenian people...

I can imagine how the people in charge could think back in those days ;

Yeah we are very bored right now because we are a getting conquered all over the place but I have a great idea "Lets go for a genoicide those are always fun..."

Come on people just sit down and think. Does that make any sense ?

This part is propaganda, and is stale.