hey winoman, crimson glow i'm still waiting for your archives...
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Originally posted by AmericanTurkIt's more than "a few", actually a few hundred thousand Turks killed by Armenians.
Everything (killings of Turks) didn't take place only during 1915-1916, my ancestors moved out of Erzurum vicinity in 1912 because of the Armenian threat.
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Originally posted by thinktwicehey winoman, crimson glow i'm still waiting for your archives...
Get it through your head noThink - there was no Armenia until 1918! There are no archives. As for Dashnak and other political parties....what archives? give me a break. German, Austian, English, French and American archives are all acessible regarding this issue - in fact I have major excepts from the Americna archives (in print) - and German archives are available on line - and I have posted from such and already given the link.
So hold your breath - thats it - keep holding...
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oh yea deny winoman.
why don't you go and ask Koçaryan?
why don't you go and ask to your political(!) parties?
Everybody knows that if you open your archives common we'll see your guilty in all terms.
Maybe you should hold your breath eh?Question to brainless diaspora freak: where are your archives?
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Originally posted by thinktwiceoh yea deny winoman.
why don't you go and ask Koçaryan?
why don't you go and ask to your political(!) parties?
Everybody knows that if you open your archives common we'll see your guilty in all terms.
Maybe you should hold your breath eh?
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Originally posted by thinktwiceIs there any public statement (from Armenia, Tasnak, Hincak, Ram-Gavar) for your WE DON'T HAVE ANY ARCHIVE! lie...
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I see you will deny forever. You are pathetic winoman...
Do you know what, since my first post (i remember it was named "treachery") you couldn't prove me anything about your granparent's crimes during 1877-1920...
Your misleading stories cannot hide your grandparent's crimes...Question to brainless diaspora freak: where are your archives?
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Originally posted by thinktwiceI see you will deny forever. You are pathetic winoman...
Oh, and yes. You're right. We've never denied that our grandparents/greatgrandparents were guilty of crimes of murder since 1877....if self defense from an elitest Ottoman Empire who felt only Muslims should live in peace within their boarders is considered murder.
Oh no, WAIT! That's right, I forgot. They lived in peace, side by side for centuries! And then the Armenians for no reason what so ever decided to revolt/rebel. I keep forgetting that part. Maybe because it makes no sense, but what the hey. The Turks know better, right? Only their extremely limited favorable evidence is the truth. Forget the rest of the world, because everyone else on this planet is part of some worldwide political conspiracy against the Turks, so they're all LIARS!
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Crimson - these attitudes are a testament to the lack of Turkish understanding of their own history. They fail to understand the CUP revolution or know the role of the Armenian political parties in supporting it. Turks and Armenians were for a (brief) time united in opposing the Sultan and had common aims (modernization and equality and wish for law and order - not arbitrary decries and corruption of the Sultan) - unfortunatly - like many revolutions - the extremists prove more zealots and to support their own power grab and legitimacy and to deflect attention on their failures (and betryal of the people) they turn to scapegoat. The Pan-Turan dreams (and xenophobic fears) that they had also allowed a justification for the brutality against the Armenians and layed foundation for exaggerated charges and justifications that the Turks who have invaded this forum still believe and repeat to this day.
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