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The final sentence about the genocide!

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  • #11
    Originally posted by Attila
    The armenians killed 200000 Turks,Turks exiled 1,500000 Armenians...this is not unfair...
    the thing is done,lots of people died from both of the sides,and I think this is not something bad.

    Life is a struggle of existence
    The living things become stronger in means of fights and clashes.
    The only thing which makes nations to remember their nationalities is the hatred amongst them
    It is the order of the nature...
    That's how the things go on
    The strongs live,the weaks die,
    Sorry about it,but it is what is called natural selection.
    The result of those clashes made both of the nations much more stronger I think,because the survivors of these clashes gave birth to new generation;and the new generation knows that the nations who killed the members of previous generations are their enemies...And they all know the weakness and strengths of the opposite nations.Which means the new generation is stronger than the old...
    Unfortunate,but it is the law of nature,as I said...

    *1914 - somewhere outside Erzroum*

    Turk1: "Hey, we are the stronger race, lets kill the Armenians, rape their children and women."

    Turk2: "But wait, isn't that wrong?"

    Turk1: "No of course not, don't you know anything? We outnumber them therefore we must follow the rules of natural selection and kill these infidels."

    Turk2: "I guess you're right, but it still sounds kind of wrong to kill inocent women and children."

    Turk1: "Oh don't worry, I’m sure our children and our children's children will find a way to vindicate our actions. In fact, I’m certain my grandson will some day make me proud by defending his families honor on a an Armenian Online Forum."

    Turk2:"What in Allah’s name is an Online Forum?"

    Turk1:" Who cares. Hey check out those new Armenian brides, lets go rape them, and then we can burn them.

    Turk2: "Ya that sounds good, it will be smashing fun. I call the beautiful one."

    Turk1: "Darn it."


    Dear God, I hope they don't let Turks into the EU. I'm not an idiot; I'm not saying all Turks are bad. In fact I would take a good and scrupulous Turk over immoral and malicious Armenian. But, the great majority of Turks are...God I don't know...grrrr just bad, you know their just horrible beings. In the history of mankind, you will not find more vicious and evil humans than the great majority of Turks that lived in Turkey between 1850-1930. And the recent generation isn't all that great either.


    Atila, you're a *uc&ing idiot, and the more you post the more apparent this is. Have you ever taken a course in evolution or even in biology?

    In My Humble Opinion

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    • #12
      i had promised myself to stay out of replying in this forum .. but cant ignore that one .

      atilla i think you are all wrong dude. I am not saying we were right or they were right for what happened in anatolia ..

      but i suppose you just shouldnt say its the fact of nature and weak ones deserve to die.

      thats just not fair. so lets say america is the most powerful country in world and it should crash every country under its feet ...

      my countrymen think before you say sth. people like you just make it easier for everyone to hate us if we did sth actually or not..

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      • #13
        Originally posted by TurKOnE
        i had promised myself to stay out of replying in this forum .. but cant ignore that one .

        atilla i think you are all wrong dude. I am not saying we were right or they were right for what happened in anatolia ..

        but i suppose you just shouldnt say its the fact of nature and weak ones deserve to die.

        thats just not fair. so lets say america is the most powerful country in world and it should crash every country under its feet ...

        my countrymen think before you say sth. people like you just make it easier for everyone to hate us if we did sth actually or not..
        I would like to say that I do not hate you for being a Turk nor do I hate Turks. Hate is the path to the dark side. I am just disappointed in your country which is "democratic" for erecting laws to criminalize those who mention genocide.
        Achkerov kute.

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        • #14
          also I would like to say that I am proud of being turk and I know that you dont hate me because of being a turk (it may differ in person, but who cares anyway)

          hate is the path to the dark side yeah. I am disappointed in this forum which is fair and equal for anyone is not as it is supposed to be.

          I personally did not insult anybody and did not use any word indicating to someone or a group or armenian nation. but some of you did . and some of you insulted atatürk whom i believe to be a great person and when i told it to admins nobody gave a crap .. but i am pretty sure if i said sth against an armenian politician or a famous man then i would be banned or insulted back . ..

          thats why i am not replying in this forum... nobody cares for what he says if you are a turk ..

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          • #15
            Originally posted by TurKOnE
            nobody cares for what he says if you are a turk ..
            In much the same way that nobody cares what a lunatic, or a con-artist, or a talking parrot, or a braying donkey says. See what the bloodlust of your ancesters and your denialist cowardice has done for the reputation of the Turkish nation.
            Plenipotentiary meow!

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            • #16
              We were not the ones who attacked first...You killed,you raped FIRST!We just defended ourselves,however bloodily,but it was a defence anyway...
              A witness is my grandmother's mother
              Your kin killed her husband and her two children
              She was hiding under the roofside at that moment
              She starts crying when she begins to tell those things
              Well,not all the armenians were guilty.
              the exiled armenians suffered because of the crimes of some drunken-stupid armenian gangs....Well I confess that....
              But what should we do,try to understand who was a gang member and exile them,and do it while the gangs were still raiding turkish villages???
              Woludn't it be stupid,eh???
              BTW...WE never rape!!!!"kill" you may say;"loot",u can use that word too...but "rape"!
              it just shows that u r a damned idiot who always prejudices turks!!!
              Oh,and using swearwords just shows your relation closurity to the monkeys or gorillas
              nothing more...

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              • #17
                Originally posted by Attila
                We were not the ones who attacked first...You killed,you raped FIRST!We just defended ourselves,however bloodily,but it was a defence anyway...

                - I'm laughing at the tragedy of your ignorance and self deception

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                • #18
                  as i can see the only choice Armenian people have at the moment is to wait for the Turks to evolve(calling us barbars and other things.. not all of you ofcourse...) enough to accept your claims...by pushing Turks to accept genocide at this moment just makes them refuse it more fiercely and it is leading nonsense word fights.. this forum is a friendly place as i can see and must stay this way.... time is not right i think...i am just trying to be logical.

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                  • #19
                    Otto - I notice that you live in Izmir - so you are not Turkish? What then if i might ask?

                    I also understand the sensitivites of "pushing" the Genocide and have posted on this before - however when Turks come onto this forum and deny it - I think some education is in order...

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                    • #20
                      when was the time right? when will the time be right? it is not a choice that the *ukish government will make - it is something that must be done and the longer we wait the worse it gets... we dont forget, but you wish that time will heal the wounds but they dont... our wounds fester and worsen as every generation realizes that it has been so long and they still dont accept it? and now in my generation we are seeing a new form of denial - the form is called blaming the victim of the crimes perpetrated against them...

                      otto- please understand that this genocide is not a subject we can put off when the *urkish government feels like its ok to confront it... of course they wont ever feel like it... as crimson glow put it best in another post that the criminal is never going to be happy about being confronted with what they did - well he didnt put in those words exactly but i definetly credit him for making me realize that fact...

                      to be logical in this partical topic is to realize the mistakes - accept the truth - release our lands - appologise - and move on... this is because there is no other humanitarian civilized solution then that...

                      i have always thought that the jewish people were lucky to have had their perpetrators be the germans - because at least the germans have been honest and have accept the crimes they committed and they have paid their dues to their victims... unlike us armenians our perpetrators have denyed it and now they are making up BS about how they suffered... thats just crazy! can you imagine if germany did that... if instead of accepting the truth the germans decided "NO! we didnt do it" and 50 years later the story changed to "NO! it was us who were the victims" - can you see how ridiculas that is? yes of course and now apply that to the *urks... that is how ridiculas it is when they do not accept the truth - mend the past - release our lands and of course (for the sake of civilization) appologise...

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