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  • #121
    street name he was talking about i guess...is there a street named like that?

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    • #122
      my msn is [email protected]


      mr. winoman...do you remember Emachine coming here with good intentions..being a christian and so... i can see Turkish barbaric genes are waking up in you young Jedi Emachine....

      come and join us....
      Last edited by Otto; 05-26-2005, 12:36 PM.

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      • #123
        Unfourtunatly Talat proclaiming his innocence in his memoirs well after the fact is not a credible refutation of not only his own words recorded during the time but of an incredible amount of corroborating evidence to the contrary. Are you aware that he and the other senior members of the CUP were convicted by Ottoman Military Tribunals of these deliberate massacres and extermination of Armenians and were sentenced to death? (however he & Enver & Co had already fled to Germany by then)...

        It is irrelevant that you don't accept the term genocide or that you fail to appreciate and do not know the facts in this case. you have already (correcly) admitted to ignorance of this matter.

        I think it is Talat Pasha boulavard - in Turkish of course...

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        • #124
          Originally posted by Otto
          my msn is [email protected]


          mr. winoman...do you remember Emachine coming here with good intentions..being a christian and so... i can see Turkish barbaric genes are waking up in you young Jedi Emachine....

          come and join us....
          I don't do MSN or such. Emachine has repeatedly celebrated the fact that Armenians were murdered by Turks. Good intentions? Just what intentions were they?

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          • #125
            ok then...sorry for asking....

            he was crying how christian life was hard in turkey and so... those things i was talking about

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            • #126
              There are very specific reasons why the term Genocide is applied in the Armenian case. In fact Dr Melson and others use the term "total genocide" to describe the Armenian (and Jewish) case versus "partial genocide" that applies to most others.

              "...total genocide implies either (a) the extermination of a group, or (b) the mass murder of a large fraction of its members together with the destruction of its cultural and social identity...partial genocide is less drastic. It stops short of intending the total extermination of the members of the group...and does not attempt to destroy completely its cultural and social identity." Revolution and Genocide pp 27 & 28

              Dr Melson goes on to characterize the Armenian Genocide and the Nazi genocide of the Jews and Gypsies as the two examples of total genocide in the modern era.

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              • #127
                Originally posted by winoman
                There are very specific reasons why the term Genocide is applied in the Armenian case. In fact Dr Melson and others use the term "total genocide" to describe the Armenian (and Jewish) case versus "partial genocide" that applies to most others.

                "...total genocide implies either (a) the extermination of a group, or (b) the mass murder of a large fraction of its members together with the destruction of its cultural and social identity...partial genocide is less drastic. It stops short of intending the total extermination of the members of the group...and does not attempt to destroy completely its cultural and social identity." Revolution and Genocide pp 27 & 28

                Dr Melson goes on to characterize the Armenian Genocide and the Nazi genocide of the Jews and Gypsies as the two examples of total genocide in the modern era.
                I don't understand your collective pyscology. Why do you always compare with Jews? Is it something reputable or sympatetic to face with a genocide?
                If those two were real genocides how can you describe what Americans did to Indians since only some hundreds of Indians left at the whole continent?

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                • #128
                  Originally posted by Otto
                  ok then...sorry for asking....

                  he was crying how christian life was hard in turkey and so... those things i was talking about
                  i prefer to be Turk if in this case, it brings me to this point, after big lies, idiotic ideals, pink dreams, unrealistic and childish side of Armenians.

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                  • #129
                    they are building a museum and keeping their culture you dont know that vatepiti...that is not genocide then..you are wrong again

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                    • #130
                      [QUOTE=vatepiti] Besides official government propoganda it seems that almost half of the Armenian polulation is died at 1915. And the other half who survived are mostly migrate to USA, Canada, France, Argentina, Armenia, etc. Only 1/10 is stayed at Anatolia.

                      Lets assume the population of Armenians in Anatolia was 2 million. The population of Armenians in Anatolia is now what? 25,000? 50,000? I'm not sure. You do the math. (its a bit less then 1/10...even if total Armenian population was 1 million...)..of course the additional 400,000 killed under Ataturk (though much of these were from the Caucuses) - as well as succesive expulsions that occured in the 1930s and 1950s whittled down the Armenian population to what it is today. And of an Anatolian Grrek population of perhaps 2 million as well - there are I think less then 2,000 Greeks in Anatolia today...

                      Originally posted by vatepiti
                      The ones who died are either killed by some groups who are freed from prisons and established to join deportation. Some died at roads from disease and starvation because deportation turned to a dead walk. Some Kurdish groups attacked the convoys to steal Armenians’ money.
                      A simplisitc explanation that does not do the barbarity of what occured justice.

                      Originally posted by vatepiti
                      Goverment has lost the control and deportation has turned to a massacre. Even CUP leaders didn’t know what was happening.
                      Both Talat and Enver admitted to being in total control of the operations and that all was done according to their direction. Also there exists literly hundreds of secret telegrams that depict part of a huge information flow that was occuring between the CUP, Special Organization and local CUP party operatives thoughout the Empire during this period...this excuse doesn't cut it - it does not conform to the facts.

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