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  • #71
    Originally posted by winoman
    vatepiti -

    read my various posts on this issue - that is my answer.
    Eh, if you are unable to answer, I don't you force to stand behind your thoughts anymore.
    Go and live with your stereotypes...

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    • #72
      Originally posted by vatepiti
      Of course, call someone idiot when you can't answer.
      Poor you.
      Listen, I tell you what. If we Armenians give you this thing that calls him/herself Winoman, would you leave us alone?
      Մեր ժողովուրդն արանց հայրենասիրութեան այն է, ինչ որ մի մարմին' առանց հոգու:

      Նժդեհ


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      • #73
        Originally posted by vatepiti
        Have you?
        Berktay is not an Ottoman historian. He even don't know Ottoman language.
        Akcam is worse, he even is not an historian.
        Bernard Lewis is one of the most respectful historian of Ottomans. And you solicidet for denying genocide.
        Of course i have read all of them quite extensively - even Lewis - who BTW admited the Genocide and the 1.5 million figure quite extensively in his famous book on Ottoman History published in 1961.

        There is no direct need for historians to neccisarily know the Ottoman language as there is a great deal of primary material on the Genocide and related history in English and German (for instance). Ackam uses much German archival reports in his analysis as well as a large variety of Turkish reports that have been published in modern Turkish. He is not insterested per se in events of the 16th century and such. And again - you attack the person - "oh he is a socialist and a criminal" etc instead of addressing the very serious and valid issues that they raise.

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        • #74
          Originally posted by vatepiti
          Eh, if you are unable to answer, I don't you force to stand behind your thoughts anymore.
          Go and live with your stereotypes...
          Get this through your thisk skull - I have answered these things many times over. Do the search yourself - I am not your wetnurse!

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          • #75
            Originally posted by eMachine
            i havent brought anything up, if you check my last messages =) but i still say pffff...
            why?
            because im gonna write something, then you will reply, he will reply, somebody else will answer, other user will swear, another blahblah...
            i mean it never ends...
            forums and cyber-communities are always unrealistic and childis. owners creats communities for to please theirselves. users and topic... like few thousand users. then proves to googles and put ads to overall header of the forum...

            just got bored, i really prefer to talk about chinese food. ok if you want revenge, just do it, if you can... you are talking about impossible... i got fun of this forum already. it bugs you but its fun. its also fun for you too. nice. which cartoons you armenians wathcing? wonderwoman? batman? or watching some Rambo, or Terminator movies? then planning revenge... f*ck it =))
            I have posted seriously and extensively on all of these issues. You and other Turks who have come here have never made any serious response. So pffft to you!

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            • #76
              Originally posted by eMachine
              i havent brought anything up, if you check my last messages =) but i still say pffff...
              why?
              because im gonna write something, then you will reply, he will reply, somebody else will answer, other user will swear, another blahblah...
              i mean it never ends...
              forums and cyber-communities are always unrealistic and childis. owners creats communities for to please theirselves. users and topic... like few thousand users. then proves to googles and put ads to overall header of the forum...

              just got bored, i really prefer to talk about chinese food. ok if you want revenge, just do it, if you can... you are talking about impossible... i got fun of this forum already. it bugs you but its fun. its also fun for you too. nice. which cartoons you armenians wathcing? wonderwoman? batman? or watching some Rambo, or Terminator movies? then planning revenge... f*ck it =))
              I agree, Armenians can continue to xxxxxxxxxx themselves with attacking and labelling Turks in this forum. They are free to pathologically play the victim, parrot and believe the same stereotypes.
              It is their problem and don't bring them anywhere.
              I just gave up...

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              • #77
                Originally posted by vatepiti
                I agree, Armenians can continue to xxxxxxxxxx themselves with attacking and labelling Turks in this forum. They are free to pathologically play the victim, parrot and believe the same stereotypes.
                It is their problem and don't bring them anywhere.
                I just gave up...
                yes of course. (and without bothering to read or respond to a great variety of serious presentations on this issue. It is you who stereotype and resort to simplicities and are not seriously discussing anything)

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                • #78
                  Originally posted by winoman
                  I have posted seriously and extensively on all of these issues. You and other Turks who have come here have never made any serious response. So pffft to you!
                  there should be a reason, i mean if you act serious, people acts serious... but when it comes to talk serious, when somebody cant respond, they try to find another way, like attacking against him/her. welll if you [!]really[!] check topics, you will find it out. of course pffff to non serious sub - humans... you keep provocate people against turks, i dont care, im just sitting, wathcing tv, flying to sweden and having fun on the net. but seems you get it so serious, organizing and meeting up, "genocide! genocide!" showing up and yell around. i still prefer to watch at you and bug in internet. because it makes really good anger on you. even this small pffff pumped 1 lt blood to your brain, than sent back to your heart. i can feal how fast you are writing =) i feel how many times youare searching something from google =))
                  well pfff again. i mean im not gonna bug you more, anyway its your forum, an armenian forum. you have fun in your forums, turks are having fun in their. both sides dumb...
                  pfffff

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                  • #79
                    Originally posted by winoman
                    Of course i have read all of them quite extensively - even Lewis - who BTW admited the Genocide and the 1.5 million figure quite extensively in his famous book on Ottoman History published in 1961.

                    There is no direct need for historians to neccisarily know the Ottoman language as there is a great deal of primary material on the Genocide and related history in English and German (for instance). Ackam uses much German archival reports in his analysis as well as a large variety of Turkish reports that have been published in modern Turkish. He is not insterested per se in events of the 16th century and such. And again - you attack the person - "oh he is a socialist and a criminal" etc instead of addressing the very serious and valid issues that they raise.
                    Excuse me???
                    We are talking about 1915. You accuse the Ottoman Empire which has a great official documents archive dated 1915. Official reports between local officers and the government about deportation of Armenians.
                    There is no need to read them because the reports and propoganda books of UK, France,etc. of that time is enough???
                    About Akcam's academic works?? you even don't know what you are talking
                    about.

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                    • #80
                      But I agree with eMachine. It is your forum and if you don't want to be bother by an opposite idea when masturbatin*, you can keep on.

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