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  • #81
    I really did not understand your point Otto. So is your point "lets talk nicely and smile against their insults?" What is your point? What do you support? You are at noones side,you either don't recognize genocide or support other thesis. Where do you want to reach besides establishing useless frienships?

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    • #82
      Ah finally you want to talk.I dont believe any government including Ours.Come on man they are lying about everything, and I dont know history as much as you do and i talk about politics and practical things because neither you nor them convince the others about genocide issue.

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      • #83
        Only Armenian(thats his nick) insults everybody here and i dont see why you and i should take him so seriously.That was what i was trying to tell you all along.

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        • #84
          Originally posted by Otto
          Only Armenian(thats his nick) insults everybody here and i dont see why you and i should take him so seriously.That was what i was trying to tell you all along.
          No my friend it is not only Armenian. (he is out of category )
          Almost everyone here is insulting Turks if you read the posts. By doing it they may relax and feel themselves better it is their problem. I am not a psychologist to curetheir obsession. But, your attempt to face their insults calmly is not useful even to make peace between Turks-Armenians.

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          • #85
            Originally posted by Otto
            Ah finally you want to talk.I dont believe any government including Ours.Come on man they are lying about everything, and I dont know history as much as you do and i talk about politics and practical things because neither you nor them convince the others about genocide issue.
            I don't believe everything what our government says. But I also don't believe their fascist government ruled by Kocaryan, too. So if you critisize Turkish government you also have to do it for Armenian government which dreams land, money, etc. from Turkey, which attacks and illegally occupies their neighbours, too.

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            • #86
              Karate chop!

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              • #87
                I said i dont believe any government. And if you can stay calm and ignore the insulters and their very presence they go all mad. Thats what i think.There are also good people here so why dont you enjoy yourself.

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                • #88
                  Correction: I have never personally insulted Otto, I have insulted Turks in gerneral as a nation and as a culture. There are good and bad in all nations, unfortunately for Otto, he is one of the few human beings that can be found in Turkey.

                  Otto, you are very correct when you stated that lands can not be given away, they need to be earned. See my efendi, that is the problem, that is one the fundamental reasons why we, Armenians and Turks, can't be friends. Regardless of how nice and well meaning you may be, Armenians and Turks have serious problems that can not be settled through discussion.

                  Its simple: You Turks can keep your apologies. We Armenians want back our historic lands and our lost wealth. Whether Turks give it to us or it is taken away from them is altogether another story.

                  I don't hate you Otto, I hate your nation. All I want you to understand here is that Turks and Armenians can't be friends on a national level because we have problems betweens us that can not be solved peacefully.

                  This is unfortunate, but that's life.
                  Մեր ժողովուրդն արանց հայրենասիրութեան այն է, ինչ որ մի մարմին' առանց հոգու:

                  Նժդեհ


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                  • #89
                    You are right Armenian efendi. I am a little more optimistic tough. Oh man what are we gonna talk about now?

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                    • #90
                      Originally posted by Armenian
                      Correction: I have never personally insulted Otto, I have insulted Turks in gerneral as a nation and as a culture. There are good and bad in all nations, unfortunately for Otto, he is one of the few human beings that can be found in Turkey.

                      Otto, you are very correct when you stated that lands can not be given away, they need to be earned. See my efendi, that is the problem, that is one the fundamental reasons why we, Armenians and Turks, can't be friends. Regardless of how nice and well meaning you may be, Armenians and Turks have serious problems that can not be settled through discussion.

                      Its simple: You Turks can keep your apologies. We Armenians want back our historic lands and our lost wealth. Whether Turks give it to us or it is taken away from them is altogether another story.

                      I don't hate you Otto, I hate your nation. All I want you to understand here is that Turks and Armenians can't be friends on a national level because we have problems betweens us that can not be solved peacefully.

                      This is unfortunate, but that's life.
                      Otto, it seems that finally you got a friend.

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