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  • #21
    Re: single question?

    Originally posted by arabico
    go to deir-zor in Syria, you will find piles upon piles of human skeletions.
    "turkish" studies have shown that those skeletal remains are of "innocent" turks that were killed by Armenians during the "civil war" when they tried to push the turks out of their native homeland and everyone knows that it's the turks that are native to the region and not the Armenians who are always trying to steal other people's lands such as the azeris who are native to the ancient country of azerbaijan.

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    • #22
      Re: single question?

      Just saw the History Channels 2hr special on the Ottoman Empire ... wow

      Is it just me or is the Muslim religion the most violent dogma in the world or WHAT? I digress ... all I wanted to say was that I thought that it was interesting that the 600+ yr reign of the Ottomans pretty much ended after they committed the atrocities against the Armenian ppl ... in fact historically, shortly following genocide, the country responsible seems to take a major nose dive. Interesting huh? Well the Urks picked the wrong side on that war that time no doubt. They may have sacked Constantinople but they couldn't save their over-inflated empire from collapsing all around them. Oh but they made such strong leaders by practicing filicide!! They are the human equivalent of the Klingons!

      For the person talking about mass Urk graves perhaps those graves were some remaining bodies from the battle of Gallipoli? A crapload of ppl died on both sides and I don't know about you but if I were left holding the shovel I dig one big ass grave for the lot of 'em ... even if I were Urkish.

      It's funny as time passes how little we remember ... like during the genocide how many newspapers and foreign diplomats reported the atrocities and how much was published. One American who WITNESSED THE EVENT stated that in the history of modern man there had never been a crime against humanity on the level he saw first hand against the Armenians. To this day they call the deportation they enacted on the Armenian ppl an ethnic cleansing ... like that makes it all good ... How about the quote from Hitler where he was defending his right to slaughter Ews something to the effect of "Look what they did to the Armenians, they won't care about what we're doing" to paraphrase slightly, or majorly.

      Oh and who was the Turkish leader Atta whatever that banned the Fez, changed the Turkish alphabet to mimic wetsern languages/greek alphabet and all in all sold out his entire country after the war ended? They still hold a moment of silence for this fool to this day ... "Oh thanks for selling us all out! Can I get on my knees and pucker up to the West some more plz?!?" Imo the Urks lost whatever heinous culture they might have had in the first place after WWI ended. Why do the Urks here think that they, as part of the peace treaty, had to give lands back to the Armenians? Possibly because that is where we resided going as far back as ancient Rome and further. Stolen from us by the Ottomans when they were going nutz on a world conquest. A whole bunch of lands were rightfully given back to the indigenous ppl of those areas and rightfully so!

      Imperialism has never worked although America has a more sinister and devious approach ... we'll conquer the world through the exportation of our culture that everyone wants a piece of. You can have your own country but YOU WILL BE ASSIMILATED INTO THE AMERICAN CULTURAL IDEAOLOGY!! MUHUHAUHAUahahahahaaaaaa Hell the Urks were the one of the first to jump on that bandwagon! They couldn't wait to sell out their culture.

      Evidence won't change the mind of a Urk because they are conditioned to never admit wrongdoing from childhood. I can imagine the BS stories their parents tell them filling their little pathetic minds with this spineless denial propaganda they will spew out ad nausum for the rest of their miserable little lives. It's all learned behavior and these Urks who come here just solidify this argument for me ...

      For a challenge why don't you Urks argue the other side of the coin? ... ya know for the sake of your own argumentative development skills and being able to think freely and outside of the "match" box all of their collective brains seem reside in. Go out there and see how much evidence you can find to support the Armenians "claim" of genocide. Alas I'm afraid none of you are open minded enough to EVER even THINK about doing what I just stated which really just illustrates the fact that your thoughts are not your own. If the Urks ever realized that we Armenians are righteous in our assertions the Urks fragile little world would crumble around them as they would see that the historic lessons they have been taught are based on nothing more than lies and pride derived from nationalism.

      If nothing else grow a backbone and take some responsibility for what your ppl have done historically speaking. By lying about it you join the ranks of your murderous ancestors and you might as well have been right there pulling the trigger or raping Armenian women! Seriously you Urks should, as we say here in the States, MAN-UP! Which for those of you in Urkey in this case means to grow up, be a man and take responsibility for your countries history. We did here in America ... maybe we should have a support group like AA ... it would go like this ...

      U.S.: "Hi my name is Uncle Sam and, well I killed many Africans and Native Americans, err to name a few groups, in the name of nationalism ... I'm ashamed FORGIVE ME!!"

      ... then the Germans and Serbians would do their thing sobbing like little girlie men heheh until finally the newcomer to the group would stand up ...

      Urkey: "Hello my name is Urkey"
      Group: "Hi Urkey"
      Urkey: "This is my first time here and I finally want to be free of the burden that has weighed on my shoulders for sooo long now ...I ... I ... am ... a a genocidist!"
      Group:**SIGHS**

      Well I'm sure there's a joke in their somewhere maybe it would have been better with the Urk running out of the support group meeting and into a playground where it sticks its head into a sandbox!

      Just man up already BE A MAN, BE A MAN!! lol Grow a backbone for Gods sake ... er Allah whoever your militant deity is ...

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      • #23
        Re: single question?

        Turkish Government: "Hey everyone, here's some tastey bullshi-i mean some food, eat up"
        Turks: "Mmmmm so tastey"

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        • #24
          Re: single question?

          Originally posted by ddd
          Turkish Government: "Hey everyone, here's some tastey bullshi-i mean some food, eat up"
          Turks: "Mmmmm so tastey"
          I suppose that you are 5 or 6 years old, because only a child tries to make a joke like that, go on producing some more imaginary dialogue from your small childish world...
          History is written by agreement of scientists and documents-evidences NOT by the decisions of councils or prejudices

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          • #25
            Re: single question?

            Originally posted by Sip
            I read this whole thread and Anonymouse has made some great points. Platana, you should really rethink what you want to say because none of what you have said so far makes any sense and some of it is just plain wrong.
            Hmmmm...Im sure that anonymouse has made some great great points.I dont expect that you accept some of my thoughts and I dont rethink about realities.
            I didnt surprised you think like that
            History is written by agreement of scientists and documents-evidences NOT by the decisions of councils or prejudices

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            • #26
              Re: single question?

              Originally posted by platana
              I suppose that you are 5 or 6 years old, because only a child tries to make a joke like that, go on producing some more imaginary dialogue from your small childish world...
              i guess it was a brilliant joke and as you know sometimes jokes are the reflexion of the reality!

              nobody is blind here, you can write in a normal font.

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              • #27
                Re: single question?

                Originally posted by platana
                I suppose that you are 5 or 6 years old, because only a child tries to make a joke like that, go on producing some more imaginary dialogue from your small childish world...
                Good comeback :thumbsup:

                Seriously though. Simple yes or no questions:
                Do you seriously believe what's on that website, or what the government feeds you guys? Would you put your life on its validity? Would you put your mom's life? Your sister's life? Every single Turkish life on earth? Isn't it A LITTLE strange how historians from all around the world have proof beyond any doubt on what occurred during the era, yet it still counteracts with what the Turkish government is pushing for as being fact?

                Again, simple yes or no questions.

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                • #28
                  Re: single question?

                  Originally posted by ARK
                  i guess it was a brilliant joke and as you know sometimes jokes are the reflexion of the reality!

                  nobody is blind here, you can write in a normal font.
                  Oh.. ARK how impatient you are... Do you have to answer the masseges which aren't belong to you. Are you a lawyer. Lawyer of ddd. He is able to answer my massege, dont worry... Anyway, there are enough armenians to answer my massages.I want to ddd's answer not yours.
                  So my suggestion: just calm down and take some aspirins
                  History is written by agreement of scientists and documents-evidences NOT by the decisions of councils or prejudices

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                  • #29
                    Re: single question?

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                    Originally posted by ddd
                    Good comeback :thumbsup:

                    Isn't it A LITTLE strange how historians from all around the worldhave proof beyond any doubt on what occurred during the era, yet it still counteracts with what the Turkish government is pushing for as being fact?

                    Again, simple yes or no questions.
                    YES...it is certainly strange... I really wonder that where are these historians? and although these historians all over the world have proof (in your opinion), how cant they explain the realities for a long time? And why was the suggestion of Türkiye’s (assembling an international comission and opening archives) in 11 March 2005 refused by the Armenian foreign Minister Oskanyan? or Why does the side of armenia only refuse and dont suggest anything in the international relations? Also, I wonder that Is Justin McCarthy among these historians you mentioned about?
                    History is written by agreement of scientists and documents-evidences NOT by the decisions of councils or prejudices

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                    • #30
                      Re: single question?

                      Originally posted by platana
                      Oh.. ARK how impatient you are... Do you have to answer the masseges which aren't belong to you. Are you a lawyer. Lawyer of ddd.
                      It seems that you’ve never been to any other discussion forums, but if you had looked carefully, you would have noticed that one post (even addressed to one person) could be answered by many people.

                      He is able to answer my massege, dont worry... Anyway, there are enough armenians to answer my massages.I want to ddd's answer not yours.



                      So my suggestion: just calm down and take some aspirins

                      This could be a good sign, you are giving my suggestion back to myself but I’m not in your condition, I’m happy that you took it seriously and obviously it has worked for you pretty well.
                      Last edited by ARK; 08-29-2006, 10:15 AM.

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