Interesting article. Still IMO - its less the Jewish Lobby (which is not uniform on this issue) but more certain aspects of the US corporate lobby - which will muster to stop recognition - as they always have - since even the 1920s...so I will not be holding my breath...In fact I'm much more enthusiastic about Stalone doing the Musah Dagh movie...that will have real unavoidable impact (even just the pathetic and revealing Turkish efforts to decry such a project and attempt to stop it)...
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 Interesting article. Still IMO - its less the Jewish Lobby (which is not uniform on this issue) but more certain aspects of the US corporate lobby - which will muster to stop recognition - as they always have - since even the 1920s...so I will not be holding my breath...In fact I'm much more enthusiastic about Stalone doing the Musah Dagh movie...that will have real unavoidable impact (even just the pathetic and revealing Turkish efforts to decry such a project and attempt to stop it)...Tags: None
 
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 Anti-Genocide Film 'Screamers' Plays To Overflow Crowd On Capitol Hill
 ASBAREZ, 1/20/2007
 
 WASHINGTON--A standing room only audience joined with Members of
 Congress, film industry leaders, and genocide prevention advocates for
 a special Capitol Hill screening of Screamers, the gripping
 documentary about the multi-platinum, Grammy-award winning band
 "System Of A Down's" campaign to end the cycle of genocide, reported
 the Armenian National Committee of America.
 
 The screening, held in the Mumford Room of the Library of Congress,
 was hosted by Congressman Adam Schiff (D-CA) and Armenian Caucus
 Co-Chairman Frank Pallone (D-NJ), the Save Darfur coalition, ANCA
 Endowment Fund, and The Raffy Manoukian Charity. Joining Reps. Schiff
 and Pallone at the program were their colleagues, Shelley Berkley
 (D-NV), Lois Capps (D-CA), James Moran (D-VA), and Bart Stupak (D-MI),
 as well as Dan Glickman, a former US Representative from Kansas and
 Secretary of Agriculture who currently serves as the President of the
 Motion Picture Association of America. Congressional staff
 representing more that 50 Senate and House offices were also in
 attendance.
 
 The program was opened by the evening's master of ceremonies Professor
 Paul Rothstein, a distinguished professor at Georgetown University's
 Law School and a frequent contributor to nationally televised news
 programs. He welcomed Congressmen Schiff and Pallone to offer remarks
 and then invited the film's director Carla Garapedian to introduce
 Screamers.
 
 In his opening remarks, Rep. Adam Schiff spoke forcefully about the
 importance of educating people about genocide and taking action to
 prevent it. "The reality is that as much as we say "never again",
 whether it is the Armenian Genocide or the Holocaust, it does happen
 again, it is happening today. The terrible and remarkable fact is
 that half way around the world in Darfur there is a genocide happening
 as we sit here tonight.
 
 And it is very hard to speak with moral authority about the genocide
 happening now, if we are not prepared to speak with moral authority
 about the genocide that took place in 1915."
 
 Rep. Pallone cited the important role that citizen activism plays in
 genocide recognition and prevention. "I have been around a long time
 now--almost 20 years--and the one thing I will say is that the
 Armenian Community and those associated with them, who are determined
 that the Armenian Genocide be affirmed by this Congress, by Turkey and
 by the world, are resolute. They will never stop. They will continue
 to "scream" until everyone recognizes the Armenian Genocide. And that
 is why this film is so important."
 
 Following the 90-minute film presentation, the audience participated
 in a panel discussion moderated by Professor Rothstein and including
 Screamers director Garapedian, ANCA Executive Director Aram Hamparian,
 and Save Darfur Policy Director Alex Meixner. Garapedian noted that
 "Genocide denial is the last stage of genocide, as Elie Wiesel so
 wonderfully and eloquently said. And because we are living in the
 politics of denial now, it creates for us a disconnection to a sense
 of who we are as human beings and it sends the message out to our
 children, that this, the greatest test to our humanity and our
 civilization-- to stop the annihilation of a people--that we allow,
 this to occur.
 
 This is not a message we should be sending to our children."
 
 "Unfortunately the precedent set in the case of the Armenian Genocide
 is that genocide can be committed with impunity," explained Hamparian.
 "Hopefully this movie will help turn the tide by inspiring a
 generation of Screamers to set the record straight and show that
 genocide cannot be committed without impunity. When the perpetrators
 and potential future perpetrators of genocide understand that, the
 world will be a safer place from the scourge of this terrible crime."
 
 Meixner, whose organization, Save Darfur, represents some 170
 organizations and over 130 million people, noted the important steps
 toward ending the genocide in Darfur. "The first thing that must be
 done is to get the attention of the Administration and of
 Congress. The second thing that must be done is to get them to take
 action. We have seen over a million emails and postcards go to the
 Congress and Administration this year, and yet, the genocide
 continues. It is one thing to get people screaming; it is another to
 get governments acting-- and that is what we hope this film will help
 accomplish."
 
 The Capitol Hill screening of Screamers came on the eve of the
 impending introduction of Armenian Genocide legislation, led by
 Representatives Schiff, Pallone, George Radanovich (R-CA) and Armenian
 Caucus Co-Chair Joe Knollenberg (R-MI). The legislation, similar to
 that introduced in the previous session of Congress, already has the
 support of over 110 members of Congress.
 
 "Screamers is about exposing the denial of all genocide, Armenia, the
 Holocaust, Cambodia, Bosnia, Kosovo, Rwanda, the Iraqi Kurds and the
 current horror in Darfur," said Garapedian. "It is about making sure
 the same critical message George Clooney and Don Cheadle are
 'screaming' about is heard, that these atrocities 'never happen
 again.' And I believe, it is this generation, the 'screamers', who
 will make sure all genocide is recognized and ends, because
 'screamers' will no longer tolerate or accept previous generations of
 politicians and humanitarians who have so miserably failed them."
 
 Screamers premiered at the American Film Institute Film Festival on
 November 2 and won the coveted AFI Audience Award. On hand for the
 opening were Garapedian, System Of A Down band members Serj Tankian,
 John Dolmayan and Shavo Odadjian, producers Pete McAlevey and Tim
 Swain, sponsor Raffy Manoukian of The Raffy Manoukian Charity and a
 host of genocide recognition and prevention activists from the ANCA,
 Save Darfur, and other groups.
 
 Screamers is a production of MG2 productions in association with BBC
 Television and The Raffy Manoukian Charity. Garapedian, a veteran
 reporter who has made a career of covering the most difficult stories,
 from Chechenya to repression in Afghanistan, follows the European tour
 of System Of A Down and their ongoing efforts, through music and
 activism, to raise awareness about denial of all genocide, tracing the
 band members' own personal journey of their grandparents surviving the
 Armenian Genocide and its legacy of a century of atrocities.
 
 The film, distributed by Maya Entertainment, is currently playing in
 the Los Angeles area and will open on January 26 in New York and
 Washington, and on February 9 in Boston, Worcester, Mass. and Chicago.
 
 On December 22, during an ANCA-Western Region press conference outside
 of the opening of the film in Encino, California, Congressman Brad
 Sherman (D-CA) and Garapedian spoke to the media about ending the
 cycle of genocide, from the Armenian Genocide of 1915 to the Genocide
 going on in Darfur today.
 
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 Interesting that they are sentding Onur Oymen. Good choice Turkey. Even the US State Dept. sees him as a fascist. During the TARC fiasco he basically said that Armenians were "guests in Anatolia".Originally posted by 1.5 million View PostGeneral Antranik (1865-1927): “I am not a nationalist. I recognize only one nation, the nation of the oppressed.”
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 I get the impression that when these ugly hyper-nationalistic Turks look at themselves in the mirror they see themselves as some kind of cross between JFK and Ghandi - charismatic politicians whose integrity is unquestionable - so they can go out and repeat the worst kind of grade school level lies and really think that others are taking them seriously and repect them. In many ways they are their own worst enemy - but how could it be any different?Originally posted by Joseph View PostInteresting that they are sentding Onur Oymen. Good choice Turkey. Even the US State Dept. sees him as a fascist. During the TARC fiasco he basically said that Armenians were "guests in Anatolia".
 
 Wasn't this Oymen character on a recent tour through the states opposing the PBS speical on the Armenian Genocide? Is this the same guy? Sad.
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 It may have been. I'll have to check on that. I'm going to make sure to alert my Congressman (who is a senior member of the Armenian Caucus) about Oymen's past comments/background so Oymen will be publicly ridiculed and embarrased when he comes to DC. I will also alert some of the people I know in the ANC and AAA as well. I know it may seem unrealistic to some that I can do anything but grassroots work is effective and has worked in the past.Originally posted by 1.5 million View PostI get the impression that when these ugly hyper-nationalistic Turks look at themselves in the mirror they see themselves as some kind of cross between JFK and Ghandi - charismatic politicians whose integrity is unquestionable - so they can go out and repeat the worst kind of grade school level lies and really think that others are taking them seriously and repect them. In many ways they are their own worst enemy - but how could it be any different?
 
 Wasn't this Oymen character on a recent tour through the states opposing the PBS speical on the Armenian Genocide? Is this the same guy? Sad.General Antranik (1865-1927): “I am not a nationalist. I recognize only one nation, the nation of the oppressed.”
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 Absolutley and kudos to you. Any voice is certainly better then none at all. We would be easy to ignore if we never spoke up - and lets face it - these congress people and their staffs are fairly ignorant of most historical or ethnic or regional issues. Without some prep they are vulnerable to believe anything. These Turkish counter arguments - like Laciner makes - have become quite slick - much more then they ever used to be. Only by knowing the real facts can they be countered. Tis is whay I think Hoviks (mythbusters) initiative is a very good one. In fact I think besides the existance of this forum itself - as a repository for Armenian Genocide related facts and postings - it is the most important thing that can be accomplished here and I think we should approach it with diligence. I have wanted to present such arguments in a cohesive form for a long time now and while Dadrian's bit that is commonly refered to is good - it needs batter treatment - more specific and better referenced. I think this site could become a great resource - a repository if you will - of such information. Many Armenians (and others) understand the basics of the Genocide - but do not know the history well enough to sufficiently argue the points often made by Turks who try to bring up counter arguments. I have sen this again and again on Armenian forums where Turks come in and where the level of discussion is too superficial to be of any real utility and where misinfomed (and sometimes downright pathetically uniformed) Armenians fail to properly counter the Turkish denials and cannot convincingly make the case. Well the history is known in detail and everything needs to be put into context and tied back to actual first hand observation and using scholarly analysis and not just cliches and other superficial (and sometimes shallowly racist and off the mark) responses. We can do better and I'm very enthusiastic about contributing in such a way (only wish i had more time to do it properly and on the scale it needs to be done)...but in the meantime we can't let the Turkish spin go unchallenged. The truth of the Genocide is known and its very well documented. And we cannot let it be challenged. There is of course a great deal of background, context and perspective (even legitimate Turkish perspective) that needs to be revealed, discussed, and understood...and who knows - maybe there will be a day where Turks and Armenians can come to an understanding of these events and we will not have to face this wall of denial.Originally posted by Joseph View PostIt may have been. I'll have to check on that. I'm going to make sure to alert my Congressman (who is a senior member of the Armenian Caucus) about Oymen's past comments/background so Oymen will be publicly ridiculed and embarrased when he comes to DC. I will also alert some of the people I know in the ANC and AAA as well. I know it may seem unrealistic to some that I can do anything but grassroots work is effective and has worked in the past.
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 '07 US Armenian Genocide Bill news
 
 Source: (Copyright 2007 by The Associated Press. All Rights Reserved.)
 
 House Gets Armenian Genocide Resolution
 
 Democratic and Republican lawmakers have introduced a resolution urging the government to recognize as genocide the deaths of 1.5 million Armenians at the end of World War I.
 The measure is likely to touch raw nerves in Turkey, which rejects the charge that genocide was at the root of the deaths. The Bush administration has warned that even congressional debate on the matter could damage relations with Turkey, a vital Muslim ally and member of NATO.
 Rep. Adam Schiff, D-Calif., a co-sponsor, acknowledged that the resolution might harm U.S.-Turkish relations in the short term. Nevertheless, he said, "I’m optimistic that the relationship will go on. We will move beyond this."
 Sponsors of the measure, who held a news conference Tuesday attended by two Armenian survivors of the episode, say that the move to Democratic control in Congress increases chances that it will reach the House floor for a vote. Similar resolutions have been introduced in the past but were kept from a vote by congressional leaders.
 "We feel very strongly that this year is the year we’re going to get this passed," said another co-sponsor, Democratic Rep. Frank Pallone Jr., whose state, New Jersey, has a large Armenian-American community.
 The resolution’s supporters say that House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., who has expressed her support, is likely to come under pressure from the Bush administration to keep the House from voting.
 "Make no mistake, the speaker will get a call from the president asking for no vote on the grounds of national security," said Rep. George Radanovich, R-Calif., a co-sponsor.
 Bush issues a statement every year to commemorate the event. He has used such words as "tragedy," "forced exile" and "terrible events" but not "genocide." In Turkey, it is a crime to use the word to describe the deaths.
 Turkey has adamantly denied claims by scholars that its predecessor state, the Ottoman government, caused the Armenian deaths in a genocide. The Turkish government has said the toll is wildly inflated, and Armenians were killed or displaced in civil unrest during the disarray surrounding the empire’s collapse.
 After French lawmakers voted in October to make it a crime to deny that the killings were a genocide, Turkey said it would suspend military relations with France. Turkey provides vital support to U.S. military operations. Incirlik Air Force Base, a major base in southern Turkey, has been used by the U.S. to launch operations into Iraq and Afghanistan and was a center for U.S. fighters that enforced the "no-fly zones" that kept the Iraqi air force bottled up after the 1991 Gulf War.
 
 (Copyright 2007 by The Associated Press. All Rights Reserved.)General Antranik (1865-1927): “I am not a nationalist. I recognize only one nation, the nation of the oppressed.”
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 Congressional resolution on Armenian genocide introduced; lawmakers expect Bush reaction
 
 The Associated Press
 Tuesday, January 30, 2007
 
 WASHINGTON
 Ignoring expected opposition from President George W. Bush, Democratic and Republican lawmakers have introduced a resolution urging the U.S. government to recognize as genocide the deaths of 1.5 million Armenians at the end of World War I.
 
 The resolution probably will anger Turkey as well as the president.
 
 Democratic Rep. Adam Schiff, a co-sponsor, acknowledged that the resolution might harm U.S.-Turkish relations in the short term. Nevertheless, he said, "I'm optimistic that the relationship will go on. We will move beyond this."
 
 Schiff and other lead sponsors who introduced the resolution in the House of Representatives say they have commitments from more than 150 other members who wanted to add their names as co-sponsors after the legislation's introduction. That would be a strong show of support in the 435-member body.
 
 The sponsors, who held a new conference Tuesday attended by two Armenian survivors of the episode, say that the move to Democratic control in Congress increases chances that the bill will reach the House floor for a vote. Similar resolutions have been introduced in the past but were kept from a vote by congressional leaders.
 
 "We feel very strongly that this year is the year we're going to get this passed," said another co-sponsor, Democratic Rep. Frank Pallone Jr., whose state, New Jersey, has a large Armenian-American community.
 
 The bill, which recalls the deaths of the 1.5 million Armenians almost a century ago, is likely to touch raw nerves in Turkey. The Bush administration has warned that even congressional debate on the genocide question could damage relations with a vital Muslim ally and member of NATO.
 
 The resolution's supporters say that the leader of the House, Speaker Nancy Pelosi, a Democrat, who has expressed support for the resolution, is likely to come under pressure from the Bush administration to keep the House from voting on the bill.
 
 "Make no mistake, the speaker will get a call from the president asking for no vote on the grounds of national security," said Republican Rep. George Radanovich, a co-sponsor.
 
 Bush issues a statement every year to commemorate the event. He has used such words as "tragedy," "forced exile" and "terrible events," but not "genocide." In Turkey, it is a crime to use the word to describe the deaths.
 
 Turkey has adamantly denied claims by scholars that its predecessor state, the Ottoman government, caused the Armenian deaths in a planned genocide. The Turkish government has said the toll is wildly inflated, and Armenians were killed or displaced in civil unrest during the disarray surrounding the empire's collapse.
 
 After French lawmakers voted in October to make it a crime to deny that the killings were a genocide, Turkey said it would suspend military relations with France. Turkey provides vital support to U.S. military operations. Incirlik Air Force Base, a major base in southern Turkey, has been used by the U.S. to launch operations into Iraq and Afghanistan and was a center for U.S. fighters that enforced the "no-fly zones" that kept the Iraqi air force bottled up after the 1991 Gulf War.
 
 In Washington, Armenian-American groups have been pressing for years for a resolution on the genocide issue. Last year, the House of Representatives' International Relations Committee endorsed two resolutions classifying the killings as genocide. But House leaders, members of Bush's Republican Party, prevented a vote by the full chamber.
 
 With a reference to the two survivors in the room, Rose Baboyan and Sirarpi Khoyan, 100, supporters said that they feel an urgency to pass a resolution this year.
 
 "While there are still survivors among us, we have, I think, the highest ethical obligation to recognize the losses of their families," said co-sponsor Schiff.General Antranik (1865-1927): “I am not a nationalist. I recognize only one nation, the nation of the oppressed.”
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