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  • Turkish fascist right wingers arrested- Wow! look who it was.

    http://www.ntvmsnbc.com/news/433930.asp

    Turkish police detain dozens over explosives cache

    Among those taken into custody were lawyers, former military personnel and persons with links to far right wing nationalist groups.



    GÜNCEL - EN ÇOK OKUNAN HABERLER
    • Türban takmayanları korumak gerekir mi?


    ISTANBUL - Turkish police have detained more than 30 people Tuesday in connection with the discovery of a cache of explosives in the Istanbul suburb of Umraniye.



    Among those detained during the series of carried out by police in Istanbul and Izmir was Fuat Turgut, the lawyer for Yasin Hayal, who is currently on trial for masterminding the murder of prominent Turkish-Armenian journalist Hrant Dink on January 19 2007.

    Others to be taken into custody include retired Turkish army officer Veli Kucuk and controversial right wing lawyer Kemal Kerincsiz, who has launched a number of court cases against well known authors and intellectuals, including Dink and Nobel Prize winning writer Orhan Pamuk, for insulting Turkish identity.
    General Antranik (1865-1927): “I am not a nationalist. I recognize only one nation, the nation of the oppressed.”

  • #2
    http://uk.reuters.com/article/worldN...080122?sp=true

    Turkish police detain 30 in explosives cache probe
    Tue Jan 22, 2008 3:02pm GMT Email | Print | Share | Single Page |

    ISTANBUL (Reuters) - Turkish police have detained 30 people, including former military personnel and lawyers, in connection with an investigation into a cache of explosives seized last year, Istanbul's governor said on Tuesday.

    Eight months ago, police discovered 27 hand grenades, TNT blocks and fuses during an operation in an Istanbul shanty town.

    "Within Istanbul and beyond, a total of 30 people are in custody," the state-run Anatolian news agency quoted Governor Muammer Guler as saying.

    Turkish media have linked the find to the country's shadowy "deep state", code for hardline nationalists in the security forces prepared to subvert the law for political ends.

    CNN Turk said on its Web site a retired brigadier-general and colonel were among those detained on the instructions of a public prosecutor in Istanbul.

    It said those detained included well-known nationalist lawyer Kemal Kerincsiz, who came to prominence over his support for free speech-related prosecutions, such as that against Nobel prize-winning novelist Orhan Pamuk.

    Kerincsiz was representing a retired army captain, who was one of 13 people previously remanded in custody in connection with the probe.

    A second lawyer detained, Fuat Turgut, represents a man accused of inciting the killing of Turkish-Armenian journalist Hrant Dink, who was gunned down outside his office a year ago, the Anatolian news agency said.

    (Reporting by Daren Butler; Editing by Janet Lawrence)

    © Reuters2008All rights reserved.
    General Antranik (1865-1927): “I am not a nationalist. I recognize only one nation, the nation of the oppressed.”

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Joseph View Post
      http://uk.reuters.com/article/worldN...080122?sp=true

      Turkish police detain 30 in explosives cache probe
      Tue Jan 22, 2008 3:02pm GMT Email | Print | Share | Single Page |

      ISTANBUL (Reuters) - Turkish police have detained 30 people, including former military personnel and lawyers, in connection with an investigation into a cache of explosives seized last year, Istanbul's governor said on Tuesday.

      Eight months ago, police discovered 27 hand grenades, TNT blocks and fuses during an operation in an Istanbul shanty town.

      "Within Istanbul and beyond, a total of 30 people are in custody," the state-run Anatolian news agency quoted Governor Muammer Guler as saying.

      Turkish media have linked the find to the country's shadowy "deep state", code for hardline nationalists in the security forces prepared to subvert the law for political ends.

      CNN Turk said on its Web site a retired brigadier-general and colonel were among those detained on the instructions of a public prosecutor in Istanbul.

      It said those detained included well-known nationalist lawyer Kemal Kerincsiz, who came to prominence over his support for free speech-related prosecutions, such as that against Nobel prize-winning novelist Orhan Pamuk.

      Kerincsiz was representing a retired army captain, who was one of 13 people previously remanded in custody in connection with the probe.

      A second lawyer detained, Fuat Turgut, represents a man accused of inciting the killing of Turkish-Armenian journalist Hrant Dink, who was gunned down outside his office a year ago, the Anatolian news agency said.

      (Reporting by Daren Butler; Editing by Janet Lawrence)

      © Reuters2008All rights reserved.
      Below is an article about Kemal kerincsiz.

      I'm glad the Turkish government is going after him. It would not be surprising to find out that he has a big role concerning these explosive.
      One can only surmise on the nefarious ways these explosive would be used...but one thing is obvious: These explosive would be used to stoke Turkish nationalism and derail the process of EU membership.



      Kemal kerincsiz has a formidable intelligence. At Istanbul's top law school, he graduated with the best grades ever; now he is applying his smarts to a different cause. He is fighting to stop his motherland from joining the European Union. Kerinçsiz's strategy is simple: to try to block the reforms that the E.U. is imposing by rallying Turkish nationalists to his cause. Late last month, by seeking a last-minute injunction, he almost succeeded in shutting down a conference on the mass killings of Armenians in 1915, one of the most brutal episodes in Turkish history, and one which has never been officially acknowledged by a Turkish government. The conference went ahead following the personal intervention of the Prime Minister, Recep Tayyip Erdogan — and sparked protests widely interpreted in Western media as evidence of Turkey's un-European behavior. But un-European is something Kerinçsiz is proud to be. "History taught us that we cannot trust these Europeans," the lawyer, 42, told Time. "Look at what happened in 1920: they divided up the Ottoman Empire, even though they had pledged not to do that. People call us paranoid, but we're not."

      The article continues here:
      http://www.time.com/time/magazine/ar...112777,00.html

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      • #4
        This is great news (if true)
        Who, after all, speaks today of the annihilation of the Armenians?
        Adolf Hitler (22 August 1939)

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        • #5
          Including Aksam newspaper's columnist Guler Komurcu,"Turkish Orthodox" patriarchs spokeperson Sevgi Erenerol and founder of JITEM Vehpi Kucuk.
          Of course no charges are filed yet.
          "All truth passes through three stages:
          First, it is ridiculed;
          Second, it is violently opposed; and
          Third, it is accepted as self-evident."

          Arthur Schopenhauer (1788-1860)

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          • #6
            State against the state-within-a-state
            http://english.sabah.com.tr/8F25742F...E837914D2.html

            A giant operation has been conducted against the organization. Thirty-three people, in three different cities, were taken into custody.

            An investigation into hand bombs found in a house in Ümraniye, Istanbul has been ongoing for months, revealing a new terrorist organization. Forty- three different locations were raided in efforts to overthrow the organization.




            Ergenekon overthrown with the third wave


            A confidential operation was conducted against the Ergenekon organization, which has been monitored for 2.5 months. Thirty-three people were taken into custody in 3 different locations. Those arrested for founding a terrorist organization include the Kuvayı Milliye Association chairman, Fikri Karadağ, and retired general Veli Küçük.

            Istanbul police department tracked the gang known to be on the side of the government for 2.5 years and hit the death blow to Ergenekon gang with the third wave. A confidential operation has been held against Ergenekon organization which has been monitored for 2.5 months. 33 people were taken into custody in 3 different places. Among the people arrested for founding a terrorist organization are the chairman of Kuvayı Milliye Association, Fikri Karadağ, and retired general Veli Küçük. The police department started to track the organization when the connection of the retired colonel Muzaffer Tekin, the key figure of the attack to the State Council, was detected. The organization's connection to the attack to the State Council, assassination of Hrant Dink, bomb attack to Cumhuriyet Newspaper and assassination of the priest Andrea Santoro in Trabzon was investigated.
            "All truth passes through three stages:
            First, it is ridiculed;
            Second, it is violently opposed; and
            Third, it is accepted as self-evident."

            Arthur Schopenhauer (1788-1860)

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            • #7
              Connection to Susurluk

              Sami Hoştan and 'Drej Ali', who were convicted in connection to the Susurluk incident, are among those who have been taken into custody.




              Küçük connected to every event


              Retired general, Veli Küçük, claimed to be one of the founders of the Ergenekon organization, has been taken into custody.

              The Istanbul police department has carried out an operation entitled Ergenekon in which retired general Veli Küçük was taken into custody. Küçük has been on the agenda since his name was mentioned, as a prominent figure in the focus of the uncovered deep connections, in the Susurluk File Investigation Committee at the national assembly. The operation will go down in history as the first operation where Küçük has been taken into custody since then. Küçük has appeared on the agenda as the commander and brother of those figures identified with such concepts as gangs and guerilla terrorists. Küçük's connections to the actors of the state-within-a-state, Abdullah Çatlı, Mahmut Yıldırım and Sedat Peker have been proven. It is stated that Sami Hoştan and Drej Ali (Ali Yasak) have known Veli Küçük since the early 1990s. According to the information obtained, Küçük was introduced to Yasak and Hoştan by Abdullah Çatlı, who died in the accident in Susurluk.
              "All truth passes through three stages:
              First, it is ridiculed;
              Second, it is violently opposed; and
              Third, it is accepted as self-evident."

              Arthur Schopenhauer (1788-1860)

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              • #8
                Thanks Gavur.

                This is going to get interesting and I applaud the Turkish authorities if they are genuinely going after the fascists. All that being said, I hope it is a sincere effort and not one for the sole purpose of shutting up the anti-EU crowd on behalf the Erdogan's party.
                General Antranik (1865-1927): “I am not a nationalist. I recognize only one nation, the nation of the oppressed.”

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Joseph View Post
                  Thanks Gavur.

                  This is going to get interesting and I applaud the Turkish authorities if they are genuinely going after the fascists. All that being said, I hope it is a sincere effort and not one for the sole purpose of shutting up the anti-EU crowd on behalf the Erdogan's party.
                  It's just twists and turns in the fog.

                  Thugs, when they get too thuggish, are generally disposed of by their employers - rather like dogs who get too fond of barking and biting are disposed of by their owners. These arrested dogs were barking and biting too much on their own initiatives - so now they have to be put down.

                  Same thing happened to last summer, to that what's-his-name Turkish "historian" who wrote that most Alevi Turks and Kurds were actually originally ethnic Armenians. Prior to that, he had barked only at the behest of the Turkish state. But now he had deluded himself into thinking he was a proper historian, and was barking in public on his own initiative - and barking a story that his employers considered to be off-message: so he had to be whipped and sent back to his kennel, tail between his legs.
                  Plenipotentiary meow!

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by bell-the-cat View Post
                    It's just twists and turns in the fog.

                    Thugs, when they get too thuggish, are generally disposed of by their employers - rather like dogs who get too fond of barking and biting are disposed of by their owners. These arrested dogs were barking and biting too much on their own initiatives - so now they have to be put down.

                    Same thing happened to last summer, to that what's-his-name Turkish "historian" who wrote that most Alevi Turks and Kurds were actually originally ethnic Armenians. Prior to that, he had barked only at the behest of the Turkish state. But now he had deluded himself into thinking he was a proper historian, and was barking in public on his own initiative - and barking a story that his employers considered to be off-message: so he had to be whipped and sent back to his kennel, tail between his legs.
                    ...in other words the status quo will remain in Turkey from the top down. Would you agree?

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