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Re: Erdogan Finally Admits Turkey Practiced Ethnic Cleansing
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Re: Erdogan Finally Admits Turkey Practiced Ethnic Cleansing
Germans could do alot..... if they wanted to....Originally posted by bell-the-cat View PostAnd what should they have done? What could they have done?
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Re: Erdogan Finally Admits Turkey Practiced Ethnic Cleansing
US, Britain, or France weren't exactly helpful eitherOriginally posted by Mukuch View Post"Nobody can give you freedom. Nobody can give you equality or justice or anything. If you're a man, you take it." ~Malcolm XComment
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????Originally posted by firat View Post
Well it does not make me happy, I am indifferent in that issue. But it is not my personal opinion; it is just a fact. And it changes a lot: a nation which has no identity is condemned, and some of your leaders realize that very well, that why they tried to create a fake "turkish " identity, one of them was mustafa kemal.Originally posted by firat View Post
Well what I can say? All the poor care about is the wealth...Originally posted by firat View Post
What is opposite? That Mongolians are turks? Well that do not change much in did (except that Mongolians would not be very happy if they learn that)...Originally posted by firat View Post
let me disagree on this one... most people in eastern Anatolia call them self kurds, they speak kurdish and they do not enjoy much beauty of the land that does not belong nether to them nor to turks... And even if some one enjoys that land: that is immoral or ignorant because they do not know what is price of owning that land...Originally posted by firat View Post
Botomline : who cares how turks percive them self? The fact of common knowledg is:Originally posted by firat View Post
they are mongoloid nomads and nomads do not own land.Last edited by Mukuch; 06-04-2009, 06:24 AM.Comment
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Re: Erdogan Finally Admits Turkey Practiced Ethnic Cleansing
The Germans advocated the slaughter of Turkey's Christian population since the rule of Abdul Hamid II. You should read:Originally posted by Mukuch View Post
Like Hidden Fire: The Plot to Bring Down the British Empire
by Peter Hopkirk
It explains the German strategy of instigating a religious war between Christian and Muslims to cripple the British Empire during WWI from India to Asia Minor and North Africa.
While German civilians and even some of the military was sympathetic towards treatment of Christian minorities in the O.E., the high-command use the Genocide to its advantage.General Antranik (1865-1927): “I am not a nationalist. I recognize only one nation, the nation of the oppressed.”Comment
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Re: Erdogan Finally Admits Turkey Practiced Ethnic Cleansing
There is not very much the US, France, UK nor even Russia could have done during the early and middle stage of the Genocide.
The theatre in Asia Minor was small compared to Europe, the British were struggling against the Turks in around what is currently Jordan and Israel. The French forces were bogged down in Belgium and France. Had the British and ANZACS been successful at Galipoili, {which may have been possible had they pressed their earlier advantage instead of wasting several days to move ahead and giving time for the Turks to reinforce their positions and bring up several thousand more troops} or had the Russians shifted more divisions from the E. European front to the Caucasus, or if the dilitante Armenians from Tblisi had actually formed battalions earlier it all could have been avoided. There are many what-ifs. Additionally, the US was neutral until 1916.General Antranik (1865-1927): “I am not a nationalist. I recognize only one nation, the nation of the oppressed.”Comment
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Yes that means they DID NOT WANT TO. Read my very long post in very sofisticated english.Originally posted by Joseph View Post
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Yes they do not know the price of owning that land.... the deer price of perished 2 Million Armenian souls, the deer price of perished 800,000 Assyrian Christian's souls, the deer price of perished 800,000 Greek souls and as of late the deer price of perished I don't know how many thousands of Kurds' souls.Originally posted by Mukuch View Post
Why only less than 25 years ago in several places in Der el Zor region and some regions in Eastern Anatolia people came across to unburied bones of humans and the locals knew that it was the bones of "Ermeni".
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Re: Erdogan Finally Admits Turkey Practiced Ethnic Cleansing
I agree with you Joseph jan,
Indeed the Germans were very involved with the Genocide of the Christians in turkey on or before 1915. Vahakn Dadrian wrote a whole book about the German involvement in the Armenian Genocide.
The Germans and the turks did the Genocide in WWI so that the Europeans and the allies won't be able to interfere. And they didn't or couldn't.Last edited by Anoush; 06-04-2009, 08:22 AM.Comment
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Re: Erdogan Finally Admits Turkey Practiced Ethnic Cleansing
I don’t know about what they could have really done during the Genocide but even the President of US at the time was appalled on how the Allies once again betrayed and feed the "shell shocked" Armenians to the Turkish wolfs. Armenia lost its newly found republic and more than 100,000 lives.Originally posted by bell-the-cat View PostAnd what should they have done? What could they have done?
WASHINGTON, Jan. 10. 1921--President Wilson has reached a decision concerning the action he will take as a consequence of his acceptance of the invitation of the League of Nations to mediate between the Republic of Armenia and ........
See PDF File for the complete (but very short) New York Times article that I found accidently a while back.
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