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Erdogan Finally Admits Turkey Practiced Ethnic Cleansing

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  • #171
    Re: Erdogan Finally Admits Turkey Practiced Ethnic Cleansing

    Few will search through a mountain of trash to find the one valuable item.
    Or maybe the readers are just trash!
    THE ROAD TO FREEDOM AND JUSTICE IS A LONG ONE!

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    • #172
      Re: Erdogan Finally Admits Turkey Practiced Ethnic Cleansing

      Originally posted by bell-the-cat View Post
      And what should they have done? What could they have done?
      Germans could do alot..... if they wanted to....

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      • #173
        Re: Erdogan Finally Admits Turkey Practiced Ethnic Cleansing

        Originally posted by Mukuch View Post
        Germans could do alot..... if they wanted to....
        US, Britain, or France weren't exactly helpful either
        "Nobody can give you freedom. Nobody can give you equality or justice or anything. If you're a man, you take it." ~Malcolm X

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        • #174
          Re: Erdogan Finally Admits Turkey Practiced Ethnic Cleansing

          Originally posted by firat View Post
          It seems you did not understand me at all. I don't want Armenians to instinct. .
          ????


          Originally posted by firat View Post
          If believing Turks do not have any identity makes you happier, so it is.
          What does it change?.
          Well it does not make me happy, I am indifferent in that issue. But it is not my personal opinion; it is just a fact. And it changes a lot: a nation which has no identity is condemned, and some of your leaders realize that very well, that why they tried to create a fake "turkish " identity, one of them was mustafa kemal.


          Originally posted by firat View Post
          What I care in the first place is the wealth of my country and its people. Let others think what ever they want.
          Well what I can say? All the poor care about is the wealth...

          Originally posted by firat View Post
          Some believe that Turks are Mongolians some others believe just the opposite since they don't look like Mongolians and mixed up with every race in Anatolia. What do these change? Nothing
          What is opposite? That Mongolians are turks? Well that do not change much in did (except that Mongolians would not be very happy if they learn that)...


          Originally posted by firat View Post
          Do people in Anatolia call themselves Turks, yes. Do they speak Turkish, yes. Do they enjoy the beauty of the country, yes. Do they own the country, yes.
          let me disagree on this one... most people in eastern Anatolia call them self kurds, they speak kurdish and they do not enjoy much beauty of the land that does not belong nether to them nor to turks... And even if some one enjoys that land: that is immoral or ignorant because they do not know what is price of owning that land...
          Originally posted by firat View Post
          Bottom line is you can believe whatever you want. This does not change a thing. You can't get to any point by proving the origin of Turks. What matters is that how people in Turkey perceive themselves.
          Botomline : who cares how turks percive them self? The fact of common knowledg is:
          they are mongoloid nomads and nomads do not own land.
          Last edited by Mukuch; 06-04-2009, 06:24 AM.

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          • #175
            Re: Erdogan Finally Admits Turkey Practiced Ethnic Cleansing

            Originally posted by Mukuch View Post
            Germans could do alot..... if they wanted to....
            The Germans advocated the slaughter of Turkey's Christian population since the rule of Abdul Hamid II. You should read:

            Like Hidden Fire: The Plot to Bring Down the British Empire
            by Peter Hopkirk

            It explains the German strategy of instigating a religious war between Christian and Muslims to cripple the British Empire during WWI from India to Asia Minor and North Africa.

            While German civilians and even some of the military was sympathetic towards treatment of Christian minorities in the O.E., the high-command use the Genocide to its advantage.
            General Antranik (1865-1927): “I am not a nationalist. I recognize only one nation, the nation of the oppressed.”

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            • #176
              Re: Erdogan Finally Admits Turkey Practiced Ethnic Cleansing

              There is not very much the US, France, UK nor even Russia could have done during the early and middle stage of the Genocide.

              The theatre in Asia Minor was small compared to Europe, the British were struggling against the Turks in around what is currently Jordan and Israel. The French forces were bogged down in Belgium and France. Had the British and ANZACS been successful at Galipoili, {which may have been possible had they pressed their earlier advantage instead of wasting several days to move ahead and giving time for the Turks to reinforce their positions and bring up several thousand more troops} or had the Russians shifted more divisions from the E. European front to the Caucasus, or if the dilitante Armenians from Tblisi had actually formed battalions earlier it all could have been avoided. There are many what-ifs. Additionally, the US was neutral until 1916.
              General Antranik (1865-1927): “I am not a nationalist. I recognize only one nation, the nation of the oppressed.”

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              • #177
                Re: Erdogan Finally Admits Turkey Practiced Ethnic Cleansing

                Originally posted by Joseph View Post
                The Germans advocated the slaughter of Turkey's Christian population since the rule of Abdul Hamid II. You should read:

                Like Hidden Fire: The Plot to Bring Down the British Empire
                by Peter Hopkirk

                It explains the German strategy of instigating a religious war between Christian and Muslims to cripple the British Empire during WWI from India to Asia Minor and North Africa.

                While German civilians and even some of the military was sympathetic towards treatment of Christian minorities in the O.E., the high-command use the Genocide to its advantage.
                Yes that means they DID NOT WANT TO. Read my very long post in very sofisticated english.

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                • #178
                  Re: Erdogan Finally Admits Turkey Practiced Ethnic Cleansing

                  Originally posted by Mukuch View Post

                  let me disagree on this one... most people in eastern Anatolia call them self kurds, they speak kurdish and they do not enjoy much beauty of the land that does not belong nether to them nor to turks... And even if some one enjoys that land: that is immoral or ignorant because they do not know what is price of owning that land...
                  Yes they do not know the price of owning that land.... the deer price of perished 2 Million Armenian souls, the deer price of perished 800,000 Assyrian Christian's souls, the deer price of perished 800,000 Greek souls and as of late the deer price of perished I don't know how many thousands of Kurds' souls.

                  Why only less than 25 years ago in several places in Der el Zor region and some regions in Eastern Anatolia people came across to unburied bones of humans and the locals knew that it was the bones of "Ermeni".
                  Last edited by Anoush; 06-04-2009, 07:57 AM.

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                  • #179
                    Re: Erdogan Finally Admits Turkey Practiced Ethnic Cleansing

                    I agree with you Joseph jan,

                    Indeed the Germans were very involved with the Genocide of the Christians in turkey on or before 1915. Vahakn Dadrian wrote a whole book about the German involvement in the Armenian Genocide.

                    The Germans and the turks did the Genocide in WWI so that the Europeans and the allies won't be able to interfere. And they didn't or couldn't.
                    Last edited by Anoush; 06-04-2009, 08:22 AM.

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                    • #180
                      Re: Erdogan Finally Admits Turkey Practiced Ethnic Cleansing

                      Originally posted by bell-the-cat View Post
                      And what should they have done? What could they have done?
                      I don’t know about what they could have really done during the Genocide but even the President of US at the time was appalled on how the Allies once again betrayed and feed the "shell shocked" Armenians to the Turkish wolfs. Armenia lost its newly found republic and more than 100,000 lives.

                      nytimes.com
                      http://query.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=9504E5D9153CE533A25753C2A9679C946095D6CF


                      WASHINGTON, Jan. 10. 1921--President Wilson has reached a decision concerning the action he will take as a consequence of his acceptance of the invitation of the League of Nations to mediate between the Republic of Armenia and ........

                      See PDF File for the complete (but very short) New York Times article that I found accidently a while back.

                      The New York Times - Breaking News, US News, World News and Videos
                      http://query.nytimes.com/mem/archive-free/pdf?res=9504E5D9153CE533A25753C2A9679C946095D6CF
                      Live news, investigations, opinion, photos and video by the journalists of The New York Times from more than 150 countries around the world. Subscribe for coverage of U.S. and international news, politics, business, technology, science, health, arts, sports and more.
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