Erdogan Finally Admits Turkey Practiced Ethnic Cleansing

[Palavra]

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Definitely will not do what your state has done.

realy? tell me what can you do? dream?

I'm going forward and say that we should pay for Ottoman citizen Armenians who lost houses, belongings etc.

Absolutely not. I will not give power to my enemy because of my feelings or justice.

[KanadaHye]

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realy? tell me what can you do? dream?



Absolutely not. I will not give power to my enemy because of my feelings or justice.

In 1999, a class action suit against New York Life Insurance company was filed by the descendents of those that survived the unfortunate events of 1915 under the rule of the Ottoman Empire during WWI. The company was sued specifically for not being forthcoming in paying up for policies of those killed in mutual massacres. The suit was settled in 2004 for $20 million, and payouts began to individuals and some Armenian charitable organizations.

Where did this "money" come from?

[Palavra]

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from insurance company? Absolutely not from Turkey.

[KanadaHye]

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from insurance company? Absolutely not from Turkey.

You can never tell whose hands are in the cookie jar. There are no borders for the wealthy, the world is their playground.

[Anoush]

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So what will you do with more 10 million people who lives there? It is impossible for armenians to occupy that lands without ethnic cleansing.

Our make up is very different, through the years we have known to the world to be civilised and very constructive, not destructive. Once we occupy our anscestral's lands from Millenia perhaps we can teach the turkish people to be and act more civilized even if they believe in a different religion. We as Christians and they as Muslims. Same as Americans who have various religions and ethnic backgrounds of people; yet they try to respect them all regardless the individual's religion, the non religion or his ethnic background. And I am sure that Armenians will not make a requirement for the turkish people to pay extra more taxes like the Ottomans did to the Armenians on or before 1915.

[KanadaHye]

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All states come into existence via violence and coercion. That much is a given.

However, not all states are premised on genocide, which is the most extreme form of violence.

Differences are in degrees, not kinds.

That depends on your definition of Genocide. The settlers in Canada screwed over the natives as well. All the Indians ever did wrong was not invent gunpowder. The surviving children were taken from their tribes and put into Catholic schools.

"In the 19th century, the Canadian government believed it was responsible for educating and caring for the country's aboriginal people. It thought their best chance for success was to learn English and adopt Christianity and Canadian customs. Ideally, they would pass their adopted lifestyle on to their children, and native traditions would diminish, or be completely abolished in a few generations.

The Canadian government developed a policy called "aggressive assimilation" to be taught at church-run, government-funded industrial schools, later called residential schools. The government felt children were easier to mould than adults, and the concept of a boarding school was the best way to prepare them for life in mainstream society.

Residential schools were federally run, under the Department of Indian Affairs. Attendance was mandatory. Agents were employed by the government to ensure all native children attended."

[Anoush]

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They would be too sad I guess but Germany did not have the position of denial. They were devastated. I am being clear, Turkey needs to be devasted or threatened of being devasted to make your dreams the reality.



I think you have the right to get your father's belongings and your houses back within the land which is in the soverignity of Turkey. If this is not happening, some other way of payment must be found. It must be all documented by state archives from the Ottomans or some other estimation method should be used.




Ok, I admit I read reports of various think-tanks, I try to follow foreign media not only Armenian but also non-Armenians and non-turks

There is no such think like you say; It is gonna happen bcoz we dream. Every country in this world makes plans to accomplish things.
Am I wrong? People need to dream for sure but they also need to design the method or build the road to make dreams happen.

So what is your method? How will yo do it?

Please tell me so that we can have a good debate. How can I say anything if you say it's gonna happen without wars but don't give me any clue how to make it happen?

So, I dream my country to have a GDP of $2 Trillion. Yes, I dream, I write poems about it. I make everyone in the world read my poems. But for god's sake, how will I do it? I don't know, I just dream. It is stupid.

Tell me how you will make Turkey give half of the country to Armenia?
Should I cry to you to learn the way of doing it?

I think turkey should realize that it is far better for Wilsonian Armenia to be given the rightfuel heirs of Armenians who were annihilated that are quite civilised and very constructive than to the Kurds who happen to be very tribal and will fight till the end and take control of those same lands. Which countymen will be better after all? Turkey should ask herself intelligently and weigh.

[Gavur]

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realy? tell me what can you do? dream?

Anyone or entity that has character first commits what they will not do,the rest flies in the wind like you.

[/QUOTE]Absolutely not. I will not give power to my enemy because of my feelings or justice.[/QUOTE]
Your racist head is peeking again Mr. BS

[Gavur]

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from insurance company? Absolutely not from Turkey.

Verdicts, just to remind you, are based on precedents my learned friend.

[bell-the-cat]

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Wilson armenia is nothing more than a dream.

No more than a wet dream.

Look at the curves on your borders - magnificent. Shake those diplomatically-enhanced Armenian vilayets for me. Show me more baby. More! MORE!!
Spread your territorial claims wider. Wider! Yes - I can see Van, Bitlis, Erzurum, Erzincan! Come on, show me even more! Show me EVERYTHING I want to see!! You can do it, you know you want to. Wow! Now I can even see Trebizond. I love you Wilsonian Armenia. Never leave me!