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Erdogan Finally Admits Turkey Practiced Ethnic Cleansing

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  • #41
    Re: Erdogan Finally Admits Turkey Practiced Ethnic Cleansing

    Originally posted by firat View Post
    ............I really don't know what this means.
    It means never give up on your Kurdish ancestral rights to exist even if you think you are a.it is a confusing world we live in.
    B0zkurt Hunter

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    • #42
      Re: Erdogan Finally Admits Turkey Practiced Ethnic Cleansing

      Originally posted by Eddo211 View Post
      It means never give up on your Kurdish ancestral rights to exist even if you think you are a.it is a confusing world we live in.
      It means you thought I am of Kurdish descent. I am not.

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      • #43
        Re: Erdogan Finally Admits Turkey Practiced Ethnic Cleansing

        Originally posted by KanadaHye View Post
        I think everyone agrees that Armenia needs to reach a sea port or at least have access to one.
        Yes absolutely, when we have the Wilson Arbitration finalized than it shall be.


        The conflicts in the Caucaus are wished to be solved by the oil tycoons, they really don't care what happens to the people involved as long as the oil keeps flowing.
        How true and how unfortunate. And they claim that they are democratic. Yeah, right. Democratic by name only or to fill their bulging pockets?



        Israel and Iran come to mind.
        There is one huge difference. In their case, Iran didn't come and in time took over their anscestratl lands nor Iran nearly completely annihilated Israelites.

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        • #44
          Re: Erdogan Finally Admits Turkey Practiced Ethnic Cleansing

          Originally posted by firat View Post
          What pushes Turkey to accept your Wilsonian Armenia? Turks should have a huge loss in order to accept this, right? Something greater that what you suggest? What is this?
          You're so worried about the turks having any kind of loss of lands and what about Armenian lands that belonged to the Armenians for centuries then the turks came from Mongolia, sat on our lands and then after having us as obedient and hard working citizens of turkey they have in whole annihilated us?

          They have to pay reparations for the Genocide as they made Armenians completely and in whole to be parished from the face of the earth. And the price of the reparations shall be the just return of the Wilson Arbitration!!!!!

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          • #45
            Re: Erdogan Finally Admits Turkey Practiced Ethnic Cleansing

            Originally posted by Anoush View Post
            They have to pay reparations for the Genocide as they made Armenians completely and in whole to be parished from the face of the earth. And the price of the reparations shall be the just return of the Wilson Arbitration!!!!!
            I am clear but you don't get what I'm saying. Such things can be only accomplished when Turkey has something far greater of importance to lose than Eastern Anatolia or whatever you call it. Is there a such thing, not currently. Is getting engaged into a war a greater lose than Eastern Anatolia, it is not either.

            Turkey will not acknowledge any genocide if it leads to lose strategic lands, so simple. We are not talking here what is just or unjust or say it good or bad. Any country will care her interests as long as it does not cause death of too many innocent people. Republic of Turkey does not cause something like that.

            In other words, Turkey loses nothing by not acknowledging a genocide, then why should it? Please do not talk about what is good and fair. Humanity can talk about fairness when US stops killing 1M people in every war they fight. They did this btwn 2003-2009.
            Last edited by firat; 05-31-2009, 04:27 AM.

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            • #46
              Re: Erdogan Finally Admits Turkey Practiced Ethnic Cleansing

              Yes absolutely, when we have the Wilson Arbitration finalized than it shall be.
              Wilson armenia is nothing more than a dream. Trabzon never had armenians majority and people of trabzon has no relation with armenians or their culture. But It was in wilson armenia.

              By the way, I am from trabzon.

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              • #47
                Re: Erdogan Finally Admits Turkey Practiced Ethnic Cleansing

                Originally posted by Palavra View Post
                Wilson armenia is nothing more than a dream. Trabzon never had armenians majority and people of trabzon has no relation with armenians or their culture. But It was in wilson armenia.

                By the way, I am from trabzon.
                That is what they do not get. I admit that too many Armenians lived in that land together with Turks and Kurds. I admit that Turkey did not care for the cultural heritage which is too sad and I use every opportunity to voice this fact in my country to my friends, people I know or in any political spectrum I am engaged. This, however, is not a reason to give up some land. There is no land in middle east or in the Caucasus that was given or taken peacefully. Is not this the reality?

                Turkey will not give up too.

                Some of you guys and ladies think that the only way to get back Wilson Armenia is to use some opportunity in which Turkey is really in trouble. They are completely right. There is no other way of doing this. When this is intended to be done, there is a high probability of living with its consequences.

                Besides this, I wish Armenia give up her territorial claims from Turkey and Turkey uses every way to ease Armenian citizens life to visit their historical lands, I hope my country restorates lots of Armenian churches, houses, buildings. I wish Turkey makes it really simple for Armenians to visit Ararat, Ani and everything else you are proud of. I wish Turkey becomes courageous enough to let her children learn where Armenians lived throughout their history, what sort of sad events passed between two nations and etc. I wish Turkey lets Armenians to break up its isolation and freely trade with whereever they want by using the routes from Turkey. But, this can not happen without giving up territorial claims.

                I also want to say that I do not have any negative feelings for you at all excluding those who have hatred against all Turks but the thing is I am a citizen of another country and I do care my country's interests as you do yours.

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                • #48
                  Re: Erdogan Finally Admits Turkey Practiced Ethnic Cleansing

                  Originally posted by Palavra View Post
                  Wilson armenia is nothing more than a dream. Trabzon never had armenians majority and people of trabzon has no relation with armenians or their culture. But It was in wilson armenia.

                  By the way, I am from trabzon.
                  Today we're all from Trabzon!

                  Let us not believe reality!

                  We must dream big, and dream the impossible!
                  "All truth passes through three stages:
                  First, it is ridiculed;
                  Second, it is violently opposed; and
                  Third, it is accepted as self-evident."

                  Arthur Schopenhauer (1788-1860)

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                  • #49
                    Re: Erdogan Finally Admits Turkey Practiced Ethnic Cleansing

                    Originally posted by firat View Post
                    That is what they do not get. I admit that too many Armenians lived in that land together with Turks and Kurds. I admit that Turkey did not care for the cultural heritage which is too sad and I use every opportunity to voice this fact in my country to my friends, people I know or in any political spectrum I am engaged. This, however, is not a reason to give up some land. There is no land in middle east or in the Caucasus that was given or taken peacefully. Is not this the reality?

                    Turkey will not give up too.

                    Some of you guys and ladies think that the only way to get back Wilson Armenia is to use some opportunity in which Turkey is really in trouble. They are completely right. There is no other way of doing this. When this is intended to be done, there is a high probability of living with its consequences.

                    Besides this, I wish Armenia give up her territorial claims from Turkey and Turkey uses every way to ease Armenian citizens life to visit their historical lands, I hope my country restorates lots of Armenian churches, houses, buildings. I wish Turkey makes it really simple for Armenians to visit Ararat, Ani and everything else you are proud of. I wish Turkey becomes courageous enough to let her children learn where Armenians lived throughout their history, what sort of sad events passed between two nations and etc. I wish Turkey lets Armenians to break up its isolation and freely trade with whereever they want by using the routes from Turkey. But, this can not happen without giving up territorial claims.

                    I also want to say that I do not have any negative feelings for you at all excluding those who have hatred against all Turks but the thing is I am a citizen of another country and I do care my country's interests as you do yours.
                    This what a lot of semi-liberal Turks don't get.
                    A dream is stronger then force!
                    Dream big, dream the impossible
                    Don't believe reality, 'cause its temporary.
                    Ask us, will tell you about how "reality" can change.
                    Ask us about the land of milk and honey
                    Ask us about the secrets of life
                    Ask us about your soul.
                    "All truth passes through three stages:
                    First, it is ridiculed;
                    Second, it is violently opposed; and
                    Third, it is accepted as self-evident."

                    Arthur Schopenhauer (1788-1860)

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                    • #50
                      Re: Erdogan Finally Admits Turkey Practiced Ethnic Cleansing

                      Originally posted by Gavur View Post
                      This what a lot of semi-liberal Turks don't get.
                      A dream is stronger then force!
                      Dream big, dream the impossible
                      Don't believe reality, 'cause its temporary.
                      Ask us, will tell you about how "reality" can change.
                      Ask us about the land of milk and honey
                      Ask us about the secrets of life
                      Ask us about your soul.
                      Ask us how West Germany has paid out more than $35 billion in reparations to the state of Israel and to millions of individual "victims of National Socialism."
                      "Nobody can give you freedom. Nobody can give you equality or justice or anything. If you're a man, you take it." ~Malcolm X

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