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Erdogan Finally Admits Turkey Practiced Ethnic Cleansing

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  • #51
    Re: Erdogan Finally Admits Turkey Practiced Ethnic Cleansing

    Originally posted by Gavur View Post
    This what a lot of semi-liberal Turks don't get.
    A dream is stronger then force!
    Dream big, dream the impossible
    Don't believe reality, 'cause its temporary.
    Ask us, will tell you about how "reality" can change.
    Ask us about the land of milk and honey
    Ask us about the secrets of life
    Ask us about your soul.
    Yeah, sure thing what you say. However, I have also dreams for my country (not turanic dreams of course, they were the most stupid people ever) and many people have dreams in Turkey like you do have your own.

    I am not a semi-liberal. What I would dream is a country in which all of its people regardless of their ethnicities and religions can speak others' language, respect others' faith and live peacefully, work and think for one purpose; for the good of the people of their country and that of the humanity.

    I am just being realistic and acting in accordance with the way of thinking of a nation-state that I am the citizen of (or the way of thinking I want the country to have).

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    • #52
      Re: Erdogan Finally Admits Turkey Practiced Ethnic Cleansing

      Originally posted by KanadaHye View Post
      Ask us how West Germany has paid out more than $35 billion in reparations to the state of Israel and to millions of individual "victims of National Socialism."
      If Turkey is convicted of commiting Genocide against Armenians in an internationally recognised court like in the case of Nuremberg trials, we have to pay reparations to Armenians who lost their lives due to deportation.
      That is a fact no body can deny.

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      • #53
        Re: Erdogan Finally Admits Turkey Practiced Ethnic Cleansing

        Originally posted by Palavra View Post
        Wilson armenia is nothing more than a dream. Trabzon never had armenians majority and people of trabzon has no relation with armenians or their culture. But It was in wilson armenia.

        By the way, I am from trabzon.
        And what gives the right to u the Turks to take the place of the local population?We had strong cultural ties with Pontus greeks even from ancient times they had Armenian Kings just like Georgia,we were the dominant culture in the region look at there dances and outfits music they are all copy of Armenian,we had strong armenian population for centuries in the region, don't forget that in Armenia in 1 perion there were more muslims that armenians that makes the place not armenian?
        Secondly the region were Armenian in first place greek colonies arrived and settle in the region but we all come along.
        So what gives u an Turk outsider the right to even look at the region?

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        • #54
          Re: Erdogan Finally Admits Turkey Practiced Ethnic Cleansing

          Originally posted by UrMistake View Post
          And what gives the right to u the Turks to take the place of the local population?We had strong cultural ties with Pontus greeks even from ancient times they had Armenian Kings just like Georgia,we were the dominant culture in the region look at there dances and outfits music they are all copy of Armenian,we had strong armenian population for centuries in the region, don't forget that in Armenia in 1 perion there were more muslims that armenians that makes the place not armenian?
          Secondly the region were Armenian in first place greek colonies arrived and settle in the region but we all come along.
          So what gives u an Turk outsider the right to even look at the region?
          They are not the copy of Armenian culture. It is the combination of Armenian and Turkish culture. It is something that did not exist 1000 years ago. That is what Anatolia is. When you go to West, you are gonna see the same. Some culture combination of Greek and Turkish culture. In the south, you're gonna see the combination of Arabic, Turkish and Kurdish cultures.

          Nobody denies that but only stupids.

          I am gonna acept this "we were there in the first place" explanation when other new comers to the new world are gone back to Europe. It does not make sense. The difference is Native Americans do not have the power to voice their wishes, or they do not wish it or there is too little of them.

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          • #55
            Re: Erdogan Finally Admits Turkey Practiced Ethnic Cleansing

            Today we're all from Trabzon!

            Let us not believe reality!

            We must dream big, and dream the impossible!
            And You would risk something for that dream. If you want to take risk, Np for me. But I will not bet much for your success.
            And what gives the right to u the Turks to take the place of the local population?We had strong cultural ties with Pontus greeks even from ancient times they had Armenian Kings just like Georgia,we were the dominant culture in the region look at there dances and outfits music they are all copy of Armenian,we had strong armenian population for centuries in the region, don't forget that in Armenia in 1 perion there were more muslims that armenians that makes the place not armenian?
            Secondly the region were Armenian in first place greek colonies arrived and settle in the region but we all come along.
            So what gives u an Turk outsider the right to even look at the region?
            Population exchange. Anyway, Pontus rums did not copy armenian culture. I am sure you have zero idea about what are you talking. Pontus rums dance, music or food has zero relation with armenia or georgia. You are funny. Go and ask a pontus rum.

            Also, region is not armenian at first.

            Anyway my friend, as you know orginal anatolians are our ancestors. So people at Turkey(and now majority of them call themself as turk) have enough right to own all anatolia and It is not your job, which religion, langauge or culture people of Turkey choose.

            And what gives the right to u the Turks to take the place of the local population?
            We are local population. DNA searchs show this.
            Last edited by Palavra; 05-31-2009, 06:41 AM.

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            • #56
              Re: Erdogan Finally Admits Turkey Practiced Ethnic Cleansing

              Originally posted by Palavra View Post
              And You would risk something for that dream. If you want to take risk, Np for me. But I will not bet much for your success.


              Population exchange. Anyway, Pontus rums did not copy armenian culture. I am sure you have zero idea about what are you talking. Pontus rums dance, music or food has zero relation with armenia or georgia. You are funny. Go and ask a pontus rum.

              Also, region is not armenian at first.

              Anyway my friend, as you know orginal anatolians are our ancestors. So people at Turkey(and now majority of them call themself as turk) have enough right to own all anatolia and It is not your job, which religion, langauge or culture people of Turkey choose.



              We are local population. DNA searchs show this.
              I guess we don't have a problem to say that we, Turks today, might be something else 1000 years ago. Now, we are Turks.

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              • #57
                Re: Erdogan Finally Admits Turkey Practiced Ethnic Cleansing

                The 2 biggest problem in Turkey the Fascist goverment, and ignorance.
                "All truth passes through three stages:
                First, it is ridiculed;
                Second, it is violently opposed; and
                Third, it is accepted as self-evident."

                Arthur Schopenhauer (1788-1860)

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                • #58
                  Re: Erdogan Finally Admits Turkey Practiced Ethnic Cleansing

                  The Turkish people are mostly mongrel (like Americans,)and enjoy being multi-cultures, and do not approve their governments abusive and oppressive policies, as well as the enforced national amnesia.
                  "All truth passes through three stages:
                  First, it is ridiculed;
                  Second, it is violently opposed; and
                  Third, it is accepted as self-evident."

                  Arthur Schopenhauer (1788-1860)

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                  • #59
                    Re: Erdogan Finally Admits Turkey Practiced Ethnic Cleansing

                    Originally posted by Palavra View Post
                    Anyway my friend, as you know orginal anatolians are our ancestors. So people at Turkey(and now majority of them call themself as turk) have enough right to own all anatolia and It is not your job, which religion, langauge or culture people of Turkey choose.
                    If only "Turks" (or at least a meaningful portion of them) were aware of that fact. Instead they prefer to believe that they came from Central Asia. It would be wiser to claim kinship with the Greek, Armenian, Kurd, Arab, etc. rather than the Kazak, Kyrgyz, Uygur, etc.

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                    • #60
                      Re: Erdogan Finally Admits Turkey Practiced Ethnic Cleansing

                      Originally posted by Gavur View Post
                      The 2 biggest problem in Turkey the Fascist goverment, and ignorance.
                      I'd prefer the word "state" instead of government. And I don't think Turkish people are champions of tolerance living under a fascist state. Fascism of the people and the state are feeding each other, IMO.

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