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  • Anoush
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    Re: Turkish-Armenian signing delayed; Clinton departs

    Originally posted by Haykakan View Post
    Corruption is more widespread in the usa then in Armenia and it effects the usa far worst. The corrupt elements in usa society are going to bring about its downfall while the corrupt elements in Armenia are strengthening the sate. Anush your outlook on world events is much too simplistic, the world is a complicated place and understanding it is not always easy because its not all in black and white.
    You're claiming to be a matematician than start counting and using that logic of yours. Of course corruption has effected USA more especially lately when it caught up with them; even though the US has been for 233 years a huge industrially rich country, but in most part it has been democratic, rich and stable for years. Ours is only 19 years old, not yet stable, much poorer, small and landlocked. We cannot afford the corruption in the level of government that they have. You're outlook is one sided Russianisitic, not Armenofil.

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  • Anoush
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    Re: Turkish-Armenian signing delayed; Clinton departs

    Originally posted by Armanen View Post
    So you have never seen it with your own eyes?
    Why? Does someone has to put it in my eye to make it see the reality of it or shouldn't I trust my uncle and aunt nor friends and numerous posts in here and elsewhere and in the newspapers too?
    Last edited by Anoush; 10-11-2009, 06:26 PM.

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  • Haykakan
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    Re: Turkish-Armenian signing delayed; Clinton departs

    Originally posted by Anoush View Post
    USA is vast, rich and strong - they can afford the corruption and can get away with it -. Our newly liberated country is small, new and neither rich nor strong yet, they can't afford the corruption at this level.
    Corruption is more widespread in the usa then in Armenia and it effects the usa far worst. The corrupt elements in usa society are going to bring about its downfall while the corrupt elements in Armenia are strengthening the sate. Anush your outlook on world events is much too simplistic, the world is a complicated place and understanding it is not always easy because its not all in black and white.

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  • Armanen
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    Re: Turkish-Armenian signing delayed; Clinton departs

    Originally posted by Anoush View Post
    Why the question? Are you doubting me? FYI; I happen to know it from relatives and acquaintances.

    So you have never seen it with your own eyes?

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  • Anoush
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    Re: Turkish-Armenian signing delayed; Clinton departs

    Originally posted by Haykakan View Post
    Thats just how it is in the USA to. The democratic government you want Armenia to have does not exist anywhere and never will.
    USA is vast, rich and strong - they can afford the corruption and can get away with it -. Our newly liberated country is small, new and neither rich nor strong yet, they can't afford the corruption at this level.

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  • Anoush
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    Re: Turkish-Armenian signing delayed; Clinton departs

    Originally posted by Armanen View Post
    Do you speak from first hand experience or is this what you have been told?
    Why the question? Are you doubting me? FYI; I happen to know it from relatives and acquaintances.
    Last edited by Anoush; 10-11-2009, 05:42 PM.

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  • Haykakan
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    Re: Turkish-Armenian signing delayed; Clinton departs

    Originally posted by Anoush View Post
    A good part of Diasporans can; but Armenia first strive to be a democratic country to lure Diasporans; not what it is today. The few rich and famous who are controlling there, are basically the heads of the illegitimate government that are overtly dominant and their relatives, friends and acquaintances who are bought by the government. They are living lavishly, making their mega bucks and sending their extra bucks away to Dubai or Europe and they're letting the majority of the people in our Motherland to be in the poorhouses and have no say in any matters. Most can't even raise their heads let alone fight for their rights. Because Thanks to the sellfish bummish the unpatriotic government and their oligarchy's are controlling the land and don't give a hoot about 80% of the people that are poor, hungry and unable to even get a decent education for themselves and their children.

    Thats just how it is in the USA to. The democratic government you want Armenia to have does not exist anywhere and never will.

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  • Armanen
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    Re: Turkish-Armenian signing delayed; Clinton departs

    Originally posted by Anoush View Post
    A good part of Diasporans can; but Armenia first strive to be a democratic country to lure Diasporans; not what it is today. The few rich and famous who are controlling there, are basically the heads of the illegitimate government that are overtly dominant and their relatives, friends and acquaintances who are bought by the government. They are living lavishly, making their mega bucks and sending their extra bucks away to Dubai or Europe and they're letting the majority of the people in our Motherland to be in the poorhouses and have no say in any matters. Most can't even raise their heads let alone fight for their rights. Because Thanks to the sellfish bummish the unpatriotic government and their oligarchy's are controlling the land and don't give a hoot about 80% of the people that are poor, hungry and unable to even get a decent education for themselves and their children.

    Do you speak from first hand experience or is this what you have been told?

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  • Anoush
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    Re: Turkish-Armenian signing delayed; Clinton departs

    Originally posted by Armanen View Post
    So haven't more Diaspora Armenians moved to Armenia? Are they waiting for the 'right' time? The Diaspora will not be around forever, therefore those concerned with preserving their Armenianess should move to Armenia.
    A good part of Diasporans can; but Armenia first strive to be a democratic country to lure Diasporans; not what it is today. The few rich and famous who are controlling there, are basically the heads of the illegitimate government that are overtly dominant and their relatives, friends and acquaintances who are bought by the government. They are living lavishly, making their mega bucks and sending their extra bucks away to Dubai or Europe and they're letting the majority of the people in our Motherland to be in the poorhouses and have no say in any matters. Most can't even raise their heads let alone fight for their rights. Because Thanks to the sellfish bummish the unpatriotic government and their oligarchy's are controlling the land and don't give a hoot about 80% of the people that are poor, hungry and unable to even get a decent education for themselves and their children.
    Last edited by Anoush; 10-11-2009, 04:28 PM.

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  • Armanen
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    Re: Turkish-Armenian signing delayed; Clinton departs

    So haven't more Diaspora Armenians moved to Armenia? Are they waiting for the 'right' time? The Diaspora will not be around forever, therefore those concerned with preserving their Armenianess should move to Armenia.

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