Turkish-Armenian signing delayed; Clinton departs

[Կարմիր Բ]

Re: Turkish-Armenian signing delayed; Clinton departs

Of course it is still ours.

[Icy]

Re: Turkish-Armenian signing delayed; Clinton departs

So does anyone know what happend to Karabkah?
Is it still ours or what?

[hipeter924]

Re: Turkish-Armenian signing delayed; Clinton departs

This wasnt going to happen if russia vetoed it.
They sold us out, they probably get recognition of abkhazia/osettia from the US


obviously serge himself didnt want to sign the protocls, but was forced too..
What changed between the first time we refused to sign? and the second time after clinton visited nalbandian? what wording changed? what thing changed??

out of our own will, we were forced to sign.if I was president of armenia, i would have had dignity and resigned

But he had the power, and like most people when they are in power they never want to give it up.

[iversonmania]

Re: Turkish-Armenian signing delayed; Clinton departs

This wasnt going to happen if russia vetoed it.
They sold us out, they probably get recognition of abkhazia/osettia from the US


obviously serge himself didnt want to sign the protocls, but was forced too..
What changed between the first time we refused to sign? and the second time after clinton visited nalbandian? what wording changed? what thing changed??

out of our own will, we were forced to sign.if I was president of armenia, i would have had dignity and resigned

[Կարմիր Բ]

Re: Protocols postponed, so now what?

Why are you worried? Most Europeans do not want Turkey in the European Union, and if it went for a vote now dozens of nations would veto. They don't want a nation with human rights abuses that reach to the sun, 100 million more beggars (the wealthier nations many other EU nations as burdens right now), and Greece and the Balkan countries still haven't forgiven Turkey over the Balkan wars. So chance of joining right now = NIL

I don't care about the European Union and I don't care about their accession. The only thing that I am interested in is that the illegal Government of the country signed an accord which doesn't serve our national interests.

I support the opening of the border without pre-conditions. That's all there is to it.

[NightOwl]

Re: October 10 , 2009 = APril 24, 1915

Wimps!

[hipeter924]

Re: October 10 , 2009 = APril 24, 1915

With one minor difference, on april 24 we stood like brave .. we decided to die for the cause. but on october 10, we handed the turks the win by our hands.

The most embarassing thing was, the armenian side refusing to sign.. and clinton coming and grabbing the armenian side and force them to sign.
does sargysyan have any dignity?

Nein!

[hipeter924]

Re: Protocols postponed, so now what?

The Turks are not going to open anything until Karabagh issue is solved and as I observe, the Westerners are also pushing for a quick solution of the matter. They are pressing Armenia because they want Turkey in the EU.

They = USA and their allies

Why are you worried? Most Europeans do not want Turkey in the European Union, and if it went for a vote now dozens of nations would veto. They don't want a nation with human rights abuses that reach to the sun, 100 million more beggars (the wealthier nations many other EU nations as burdens right now), and Greece and the Balkan countries still haven't forgiven Turkey over the Balkan wars. So chance of joining right now = NIL

[Կարմիր Բ]

Re: Turkish-Armenian signing delayed; Clinton departs

Anyone know when Szerh's time as president will be done?

In Armenia? Who knows. There will be many "Szerhs" to come unless if the Armenian people gain the control of the country.

[Կարմիր Բ]

Re: Turkish-Armenian signing delayed; Clinton departs

You don't even understand what we can gain from this you only see what your enemy let's you see.

Why don't you describe us what we gain then. With your own words.