Turkish-Armenian signing delayed; Clinton departs

[Artsakh]

Re: Turkish-Armenian signing delayed; Clinton departs

He was forced, there are better ways to force leaders of small countries to do things the great powers want than weapons.

Listen, first off, youre a kid so don't pretend to be some knowledgeable professor of political science.

Secondly, you can't force anyone to do anything; THE DIGNIFIED THING FOR HIM TO HAVE DONE WAS TO RESIGN; HOWEVER, HOLDING ONTO HIS POLITICAL SEAT WAS MORE IMPORTANT FOR HIM.

[Artsakh]

Re: Turkish-Armenian signing delayed; Clinton departs

KarotheGreat yes let's listen to idiots like you you are so right, let's destroy our nation even more.

Can you be more specific? I can't understand what you are trying to say. Did I ever say anything about destroyig our nation? -NOOO

Your Dear President Serje,however, did a great job of causing great damange to the nation in march of last year.

And the reason why our country doesn't get anywhere is because idiots like you always try to justify their mistakes instead of coming out and admitting their mistake like a man, and admit they were wrong, and try not to make similar mistakes in the future.

It's not you who will suffer it will be my family doing the suffering.

Serje will not suffer either, nor will his unibrowed gangster brother who has a 12 million dollar palace in California. Where did this former bus driver make such money?

If we listen to you we must go against the US, Eu and Russia;

No, Armenia has always been for the establishment of neighborly relations with Turkey WITHOUT preconditions; Armenia should have stuck to that policy.

Under serje, Armenia put the genocide under question, gave up any claims to our western armenia, and endagered the security of karabakh.

yes let's do that, let's destroy Armenia that will be fun

this before you speak.

You don't even understand what we can gain from this

gain from what?

you only see what your enemy let's you see.

?????

It's people like you who keep Armenia weak.

Specifically, how so? And specifically, what do you mean by "people like you." Which characteristics of mine, exactly?

[KarotheGreat]

Re: Turkish-Armenian signing delayed; Clinton departs

Yeah. As for losing everything we had, Russia and Iran would still sell us goods, and the diaspora would still send money, and the world bank would still give annual aid. It's not like they would just say "BAD ARMENIA YOU DIDN'T SIGN, SO BE TAKEN OVER BY TURKEY NOW"

Do you really think politics work like that every thing done has a consequence bad or good. We go against the world powers and we would be crushed so soon that it would not be funny. Those powers would start supporting our enemies and helping them to destroy us.

[ara87]

Re: Turkish-Armenian signing delayed; Clinton departs

He was forced, there are better ways to force leaders of small countries to do things the great powers want than weapons. How long can we hold out without the help of any of the great powers. Whole of Armenia was on the line if we didn't play the game like they wanted we could have lost everything we had.

He could resign leaving the superpowers waiting for the next presidential election. And they couldn't do anything.

Yeah. As for losing everything we had, Russia and Iran would still sell us goods, and the diaspora would still send money, and the world bank would still give annual aid. It's not like they would just say "BAD ARMENIA YOU DIDN'T SIGN, SO BE TAKEN OVER BY TURKEY NOW"

Anyone know when Szerh's time as president will be done?

officially or unofficially ?

[Icy]

Re: Turkish-Armenian signing delayed; Clinton departs

Anyone know when Szerh's time as president will be done?

[KarotheGreat]

Re: Turkish-Armenian signing delayed; Clinton departs

He could resign leaving the superpowers waiting for the next presidential election. And they couldn't do anything.

And how would that helped us just postponed the thing, the super powers have plans with the region and we need to make sure that we are part of those plans.

[gegev]

Re: Turkish-Armenian signing delayed; Clinton departs

He was forced, there are better ways to force leaders of small countries to do things the great powers want than weapons. How long can we hold out without the help of any of the great powers. Whole of Armenia was on the line if we didn't play the game like they wanted we could have lost everything we had.

He could resign leaving the superpowers waiting for the next presidential election. And they couldn't do anything.

[KarotheGreat]

Re: Turkish-Armenian signing delayed; Clinton departs

he wasn't forced to sign anything, no one held a gun to his head, if he were to refuse he'd probably been looked on as somewhat of a hero, and could have been our next president

He was forced, there are better ways to force leaders of small countries to do things the great powers want than weapons. How long can we hold out without the help of any of the great powers. Whole of Armenia was on the line if we didn't play the game like they wanted we could have lost everything we had.

[ara87]

Re: Turkish-Armenian signing delayed; Clinton departs

He was forced to sign and we recognize it till we have the power to take back what is ours. We need to work together to strengthen our nation and people and weaken our enemy.

he wasn't forced to sign anything, no one held a gun to his head, if he were to refuse he'd probably been looked on as somewhat of a hero, and could have been our next president

[KarotheGreat]

Re: Turkish-Armenian signing delayed; Clinton departs

SHUT the hell up!!! I hope you and the rest of you clowns that were ripping your A=S=S wholes supporting Serje for president are eating your words, especially that self-called "Armenian" character.

i had been talking against serge years before he ran for president.

All the signs were there; and now you clowns are eating your own words.

-he was a chronic gambler
-in the position of defense minister, he repeatedly spoke of concessions to azerbaijan and the return of liberated territories
-he imprisoned patriots like vartan malkasyan and jirayr sefilyan when they dared to speak out against serje's treasonous calls for returning territories

even after the march carngage this traitor orchestrated in the streets of yerevan and the killing of civilians wasn't enough for you clowns.

and after all these and more, you clowns supported him, and i hope you are pround of yourselves.

ARMENIA, IN ESSENCE, BECAME A SLAVE NATION TODAY.

yes let's listen to idiots like you you are so right, let's destroy our nation even more. It's not you who will suffer it will be my family doing the suffering. If we listen to you we must go against the US, Eu and Russia; yes let's do that, let's destroy Armenia that will be fun. You don't even understand what we can gain from this you only see what your enemy let's you see. It's people like you who keep Armenia weak.