Turkish-Armenian signing delayed; Clinton departs

[Federate]

Re: Turkish-Armenian signing delayed; Clinton departs

Edward kissed Davutoglu and Clinton as the ink dried on the paper and a 100 years of history was lost.

[ara87]

Re: Turkish-Armenian signing delayed; Clinton departs

Edward kissed Davutoglu and Clinton as the ink dried on the paper and a 100 years of history was lost.

Davutoglu=Davut=Davu=DAVO ?


whatever, theres nothing we can do about this, lets just hope the economy actually improves (sigh) maybe that natural gas pipe line that gonna be built won't bypass armenia

[ara87]

Re: Turkish-Armenian signing delayed; Clinton departs

Wait can't the parliament just not ratify it?

[retro]

Armenia and Turkey normalise ties

Venue Armenia-Turkey ceremony in Zurich, 10-10-09
The stage where the accord was to be signed remained empty for hours

Turkey and Armenia have signed a historic accord normalising relations after a century of hostility.

The deal was signed by the two foreign ministers after last-minute problems delayed the ceremony in Switzerland.

Under the agreement, Turkey and Armenia are to resume diplomatic ties and re-open their shared border.

The accord has been met by protests in Armenia, where many people say it does not fully address the 1915 killing of hundreds of thousands of Armenians.

Armenia wants Turkey to recognise the killings as an act of genocide, but successive Turkish governments have refused to do so.

The agreement calls for a joint commission of independent historians to study the genocide issue.


Turkish Foreign Minister Ahmet Davutoglu and his Armenian counterpart, Edward Nalbandian, signed the protocols in Switzerland after a delay of more than two hours.

The BBC's Kim Ghattas in Zurich says the Armenians had apparently raised objections to a statement due to be read out by the Turkish delegation.

The accord needs to be ratified by the parliaments of both countries.

The ceremony was attended by US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov and the EU's High Representative for the Common Foreign and Security Policy, Javier Solana.

International campaign

"The international recognition of the Armenian genocide will be hindered by this signature, or ratification," said Vahan Hovanissyan, a member of parliament for the nationalist Dashnak Tsutyun party.

One protester told the BBC he was not opposed to the opening of the border, but was "against the setting up of a commission that will allow Turkey to further postpone declaring the killings as genocide".

Hundreds of thousands of Armenians died in 1915, when they were deported en masse from eastern Anatolia by the Ottoman empire. They were killed by troops or died from starvation and disease.

Armenians have campaigned for the killings to be recognised internationally as genocide - and more than 20 countries have done so.

Turkey admits that many Armenians were killed but says the deaths were part of the widespread fighting that took place in World War I.

A roadmap for normalising relations between Turkey and Armenia was agreed in April.

Turkey closed its border with Armenia in 1993 because of its war with Azerbaijan over the disputed region of Nagorno Karabakh.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/8299712.stm

[Army]

Re: Turkish-Armenian signing delayed; Clinton departs

Wait can't the parliament just not ratify it?

They will. If not, how do you think Yerevan would explain this to the international society after already signing it?

What you want is exactly the same as Treaty of Sevres. Ottomans never ratified it. LOL, when it comes to their 'own' interest, people can easily turn 180 degrees.

[gegev]

Re: Turkish-Armenian signing delayed; Clinton departs

Lavrov made a disgustful appearance when Nalbandyan was kissing him.

That’s more than natural.

[ara87]

Re: Turkish-Armenian signing delayed; Clinton departs

They will. If not, how do you think Yerevan would explain this to the international society after already signing it?

What you want is exactly the same as Treaty of Sevres. Ottomans never ratified it. LOL, when it comes to their 'own' interest, people can easily turn 180 degrees.

I don't care about sevres i don't go touting it around, but sevres or not, the republic of armenia was larger than it is today and we still have rights to lands that were ours in the first republic



what's in the orange/peach color was ours without sevres


Anyways i'm sure the majority of actual Turkish citizens disprove of opening the borders too, protocols or not, Armenians weren't the only ones against this

[Tigranakert]

Re: Turkish-Armenian signing delayed; Clinton departs

Seems something went wrong, Nalbandian really looked sad... today is the day we recognized the borders of modern day Turkey.

[KarotheGreat]

Re: Turkish-Armenian signing delayed; Clinton departs

Seems something went wrong, Nalbandian really looked sad... today is the day we recognized the borders of modern day Turkey.

He was forced to sign and we recognize it till we have the power to take back what is ours. We need to work together to strengthen our nation and people and weaken our enemy.

[londontsi]

Re: Turkish-Armenian signing delayed; Clinton departs

A horrible OWN GOAL

We had Severs and now they have this, even if paliament does not ratify it.

Heads should roll big time if we have any responsibilty within our own government.

If no heads roll I am afraid worse things will follow.

A sad day.