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  • ara87
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    Originally posted by Artsakh View Post
    The only way out of this enslaving terms is for widescale popular uprising in armenia to overthrow this traitor; I pray to god he gets wacked!!
    I think for the sake of saving face, saying yo'd have him "exiled" would be better. Turks already call us a terrorist state
    Last edited by ara87; 10-10-2009, 11:37 AM.

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  • Artsakh
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    The only way out of this enslaving terms is for widescale popular uprising in armenia to overthrow this traitor; I pray to god he gets wacked!!

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  • ara87
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    Originally posted by Army View Post
    Turkey's agenda is different from Armenia. For Armenia, it is a deadly important national issue. For Turkey, another step on the way of being a regional power, solving another problem within the neighborhood.

    Like as Ankara's relationships with Syria. If you read, it was quoted here in this forum too. Syria's relationship with Ankara means a lot, a way to communicate with the West; however for Ankara, it is just a part of their big plan/strategy.
    Idk i don't see why Turkey needs us to be a regional power, in mid east politics, we're important, as far as concerns over pipelines in georgia, and possible russian threats, they seem irrational, Russia will not soon repeat that scene in Georgia, and having the pipelines eventually moved to Armenia isn't smart either years of ethnic tension don't just disappear, even if we just did pull out or if they accepted nk as part of armenia.

    As for the EU, a natural gas pipeline is going through Turkey to Europe, and the oil goes to Israel, that alone would have eventually got them in

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  • Artsakh
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    Re: Turkish-Armenian signing delayed; Clinton departs

    Originally posted by KarotheGreat View Post
    He was forced to sign and we recognize it till we have the power to take back what is ours. We need to work together to strengthen our nation and people and weaken our enemy.
    SHUT the hell up!!! I hope you and the rest of you clowns that were ripping your A=S=S wholes supporting Serje for president are eating your words, especially that self-called "Armenian" character.

    i had been talking against serge years before he ran for president.

    All the signs were there; and now you clowns are eating your own words.

    -he was a chronic gambler
    -in the position of defense minister, he repeatedly spoke of concessions to azerbaijan and the return of liberated territories
    -he imprisoned patriots like vartan malkasyan and jirayr sefilyan when they dared to speak out against serje's treasonous calls for returning territories

    even after the march carngage this traitor orchestrated in the streets of yerevan and the killing of civilians wasn't enough for you clowns.

    and after all these and more, you clowns supported him, and i hope you are pround of yourselves.

    ARMENIA, IN ESSENCE, BECAME A SLAVE NATION TODAY.
    Last edited by Artsakh; 10-10-2009, 11:21 AM.

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  • Army
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    Re: Turkish-Armenian signing delayed; Clinton departs

    Turkey's agenda is different from Armenia. For Armenia, it is a deadly important national issue. For Turkey, another step on the way of being a regional power, solving another problem within the neighborhood.

    Like as Ankara's relationships with Syria. If you read, it was quoted here in this forum too. Syria's relationship with Ankara means a lot, a way to communicate with the West; however for Ankara, it is just a part of their big plan/strategy.

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  • londontsi
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    A horrible OWN GOAL

    We had Severs and now they have this, even if paliament does not ratify it.

    Heads should roll big time if we have any responsibilty within our own government.

    If no heads roll I am afraid worse things will follow.

    A sad day.

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  • KarotheGreat
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    Originally posted by Tigranakert View Post
    Seems something went wrong, Nalbandian really looked sad... today is the day we recognized the borders of modern day Turkey.
    He was forced to sign and we recognize it till we have the power to take back what is ours. We need to work together to strengthen our nation and people and weaken our enemy.

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  • Tigranakert
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    Seems something went wrong, Nalbandian really looked sad... today is the day we recognized the borders of modern day Turkey.

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  • ara87
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    Originally posted by Army View Post
    They will. If not, how do you think Yerevan would explain this to the international society after already signing it?

    What you want is exactly the same as Treaty of Sevres. Ottomans never ratified it. LOL, when it comes to their 'own' interest, people can easily turn 180 degrees.
    I don't care about sevres i don't go touting it around, but sevres or not, the republic of armenia was larger than it is today and we still have rights to lands that were ours in the first republic



    what's in the orange/peach color was ours without sevres


    Anyways i'm sure the majority of actual Turkish citizens disprove of opening the borders too, protocols or not, Armenians weren't the only ones against this
    Last edited by ara87; 10-10-2009, 11:06 AM.

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  • gegev
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    Lavrov made a disgustful appearance when Nalbandyan was kissing him.

    That’s more than natural.

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