Turkish-Armenian signing delayed; Clinton departs

[Army]

Re: Turkish-Armenian signing delayed; Clinton departs

Wait can't the parliament just not ratify it?

They will. If not, how do you think Yerevan would explain this to the international society after already signing it?

What you want is exactly the same as Treaty of Sevres. Ottomans never ratified it. LOL, when it comes to their 'own' interest, people can easily turn 180 degrees.

[retro]

Armenia and Turkey normalise ties

Venue Armenia-Turkey ceremony in Zurich, 10-10-09
The stage where the accord was to be signed remained empty for hours

Turkey and Armenia have signed a historic accord normalising relations after a century of hostility.

The deal was signed by the two foreign ministers after last-minute problems delayed the ceremony in Switzerland.

Under the agreement, Turkey and Armenia are to resume diplomatic ties and re-open their shared border.

The accord has been met by protests in Armenia, where many people say it does not fully address the 1915 killing of hundreds of thousands of Armenians.

Armenia wants Turkey to recognise the killings as an act of genocide, but successive Turkish governments have refused to do so.

The agreement calls for a joint commission of independent historians to study the genocide issue.


Turkish Foreign Minister Ahmet Davutoglu and his Armenian counterpart, Edward Nalbandian, signed the protocols in Switzerland after a delay of more than two hours.

The BBC's Kim Ghattas in Zurich says the Armenians had apparently raised objections to a statement due to be read out by the Turkish delegation.

The accord needs to be ratified by the parliaments of both countries.

The ceremony was attended by US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov and the EU's High Representative for the Common Foreign and Security Policy, Javier Solana.

International campaign

"The international recognition of the Armenian genocide will be hindered by this signature, or ratification," said Vahan Hovanissyan, a member of parliament for the nationalist Dashnak Tsutyun party.

One protester told the BBC he was not opposed to the opening of the border, but was "against the setting up of a commission that will allow Turkey to further postpone declaring the killings as genocide".

Hundreds of thousands of Armenians died in 1915, when they were deported en masse from eastern Anatolia by the Ottoman empire. They were killed by troops or died from starvation and disease.

Armenians have campaigned for the killings to be recognised internationally as genocide - and more than 20 countries have done so.

Turkey admits that many Armenians were killed but says the deaths were part of the widespread fighting that took place in World War I.

A roadmap for normalising relations between Turkey and Armenia was agreed in April.

Turkey closed its border with Armenia in 1993 because of its war with Azerbaijan over the disputed region of Nagorno Karabakh.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/8299712.stm

[ara87]

Re: Turkish-Armenian signing delayed; Clinton departs

Wait can't the parliament just not ratify it?

[ara87]

Re: Turkish-Armenian signing delayed; Clinton departs

Edward kissed Davutoglu and Clinton as the ink dried on the paper and a 100 years of history was lost.

Davutoglu=Davut=Davu=DAVO ?


whatever, theres nothing we can do about this, lets just hope the economy actually improves (sigh) maybe that natural gas pipe line that gonna be built won't bypass armenia

[Federate]

Re: Turkish-Armenian signing delayed; Clinton departs

Edward kissed Davutoglu and Clinton as the ink dried on the paper and a 100 years of history was lost.

[NightOwl]

Re: Turkish-Armenian signing delayed; Clinton departs

Was just signed.

[ara87]

Re: Turkish-Armenian signing delayed; Clinton departs

they're signing it right now

Hillary is the only one smiling and the only one not in black. Ugh there's applause

[Gavur]

Re: Turkish-Armenian signing delayed; Clinton departs

Fingers crossed.

If there are revisions in the protocol to placate the Turks why can't the Armenian side introduce
their revisions to straighten their co.ckups (forgive the pun !!)

Exactly, Turks are trying to add more conditions , while we're on the defensive??
Wheres the balls of this so-called Bull?

[Army]

Re: Turkish-Armenian signing delayed; Clinton departs

Clinton returns

[ara87]

Protocols postponed, so now what?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/10/10/AR2009101001088.html

Do you really think we're going to get any of our demands? or at least have the turks give up some of theirs?