Book Club

[MrHyeSev]

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Oh ok I will discuss it but I am participating.

[iFemale]

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Brothers Karamazov
Part l , Book I:

So far this is what I have read
Karamazov: the name is well-known in Russia. People associate that name with violence & Fyodor Karamazov was true to his name. His life of drinking never stopped & marriage did not stop his old lifestyle. His marriage was scandalous. Adelaida Ivanovna was nieve & thought he would change. After a while she realized that he wasn't going to change & to make matters worst she was pregenant with a son named Dmitri. After Dmitri was born she couldn't take the violence anymore so she left Dmitri & Fyodor. Fyodor searched for Adelaida. When he heard that she had past away he was drunk having orgies. Young Dmitri was handed from family member 2 family member & felt very neglected but always knew about his father & who he really is. After the 4 year old Dmitri was taken away . He got married a second time to a wonderful wife Sofia who convinced her to elope & was still having orgies in her presence.







Sofya Ivanovna was married to Karamazov's, but she was not happy because he was abusive towards her. They had 2 kids togheter Ivan & Alyosha. Soon after Sofia died & there servant who loved Sofia so much took the children as there guardian & protected them & gave them rubles for there education. Ivan became a brilliant student who started wriitng journals while Alyosha dveloped into a devoutly religious person, who was liked by everyone. Later on Alyosha returns to his fathers house & reunites with his brother & step brother ( Dmitri) but is kind of puzzled by Ivan's intellegance. He invites his father with wide open arms & never critisize him for his behavior. The Karamazov are reunited, Alyosha's concern was that Dmitri & the Father can discuss there differences in Father Zossima's cell (which is kind of like a church or Holy Place you can say).Alyosha fears the meeting though.

So you read about the book on Cliffnotes. That's nice. Although, you missed a couple of words and still managed to make errors. Next time, cite your sources. I'll make things easier: http://www.cliffsnotes.com/study_gui...pageNum-9.html

You have failed your assignment. Plagiarism is not a joke and is a serious offense that will lead to your forum-emic suspension. I believe you have not taken the placement exam for the 'Intellectual thread.' Please do not try again. Goodbye.

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[Federate]

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So you read about the book on Cliffnotes. That's nice. Although, you missed a couple of words and still managed to make errors. Next time, cite your sources. I'll make things easier: http://www.cliffsnotes.com/study_gui...pageNum-9.html

You have failed your assignment. Plagiarism is not a joke and is a serious offense that will lead to your forum-emic suspension. I believe you have not taken the placement exam for the 'Intellectual thread.' Please do not try again. Goodbye.

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I'm framing this post LMAO omg

[Siggie]

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Okay guys, be nice please... He'll explain what he did. At least he's making an effort to read and participate which is more than I can say for you two.

That aside, I hope it's really not the case that you're reading the cliff notes instead of the book Pepsi. It defeats the purpose.

[MrHyeSev]

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iFemale I actually have read the book don't assume anything if you don't know the facts.

What have you done to contribute you just like to make fun of people...but it's really getting old & at the end I'm the immature one right.

iFemale why don't you join the Book Club & if you read the book is actually interesting.

[Siggie]

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I've read through Book V; chapter 4 and am starting 5, The Grand Inquisitor. Anyone still reading?

[gkv]

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this (almost self-contained) chapter is not about inquisition or the catholic church as a (very) superficial read might suggest. in fact once the (peripheral) settings have been established, the reader soon realizes the questions that surface are of intemporal nature.

this chapter has been the subject of a lot of commentaries and inspired some developments/vulgarizations (e.g. huxley's brave new world)

a selection of such commentaries (of mixed interest) is gathered in the following book

http://books.google.fr/books?id=EprkIBd546gC&pg=PA361&lpg=PA361&dq=%22le+grand+inquisiteur%22+l'%C3%A2ge+d'homme&source=bl&ots=qbb2VJH4-S&sig=EFE1j0k7SSVNXXDZ0tJS5i1aITE&hl=fr&ei=wLf4TKHNK4K8lQeWyfHiBw&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=6&ved=0CC8Q6AEwBQ#v=onepage&q&f=false

at the end of the chapter, aliosha asks a question to his brother.
the reader has to ask himself the very same question.
dostoevsky is like tarkovsky or the gospel, you have to involve yourself "existentially " in the reading/viewing in order for it to be of any worth. not every reader is capable/willing to though. it requires a form of sensitivity/intelligence and courage.

[Siggie]

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this (almost self-contained) chapter is not about inquisition or the catholic church as a (very) superficial read might suggest. in fact once the (peripheral) settings have been established, the reader soon realizes the questions that surface are of intemporal nature.

this chapter has been the subject of a lot of commentaries and inspired some developments/vulgarizations (e.g. huxley's brave new world)

a selection of such commentaries (of mixed interest) is gathered in the following book

http://books.google.fr/books?id=EprkIBd546gC&pg=PA361&lpg=PA361&dq=%22le+grand+inquisiteur%22+l'%C3%A2ge+d'homme&source=bl&ots=qbb2VJH4-S&sig=EFE1j0k7SSVNXXDZ0tJS5i1aITE&hl=fr&ei=wLf4TKHNK4K8lQeWyfHiBw&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=6&ved=0CC8Q6AEwBQ#v=onepage&q&f=false

at the end of the chapter, aliosha asks a question to his brother.
the reader has to ask himself the very same question.
dostoevsky is like tarkovsky or the gospel, you have to involve yourself "existentially " in the reading/viewing in order for it to be of any worth. not every reader is capable/willing to though. it requires a form of sensitivity/intelligence and courage.

Definitely. This book overall cannot really be read superficially. The Grand Inquisitor chapter is dense and I'm finding myself rereading and noting things in this chapter, whereas I haven't done hardly any of that for the preceding chapters. There's certainly a very interesting philosophical/religious debate here worth discussing if there's interest and readers to do so.

[MrHyeSev]

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I'm reading Book II: Chapters 1–4
Im on chapter so give me some time 2 finish up these chapters & I will discuss it.

[Siggie]

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Since "your summary" of book I, you haven't read any further, huh? You were just blowing smoke up my tootooz with the "it's a very interesting book" comments then.