Georgian-South Ossetian conflict

[Armanen]

Re: Georgian-South Ossetian conflict

The Azerbaboons have oil which is why the world has really turned a blind eye to the human rights violations that they commit, their lack of "democracy" (whatever that means according to the West), their massive corruption which is nowhere near the level of corruption that exists in Armenia etc.

In fact, if the baboons did not have oil, everyone would openly call Aliyev a dictator and the country would be isolated and dried up by massive amounts of sanctions.

Yeah, they're in the same boat as saudi arabia. Without their oil they would be treated worse than Belarus

[Federate]

Re: Georgian-South Ossetian conflict

However, I wouldn't put it past nato to accept azerbaijan and call it "democratic".

The Azerbaboons have oil which is why the world has really turned a blind eye to the human rights violations that they commit, their lack of "democracy" (whatever that means according to the West), their massive corruption which is nowhere near the level of corruption that exists in Armenia etc.

In fact, if the baboons did not have oil, everyone would openly call Aliyev a dictator and the country would be isolated and dried up by massive amounts of sanctions.

[crusader1492]

Re: Georgian-South Ossetian conflict

The only way out is Azerbaijan's soonest integration with NATO. We should respond by force to another force. The only force, which can resist growing appetites of the Kremlin is NATO. They have not left a choice to us. Any delay in this issue equals to death.

Baboon source http://www.today.az/news/politics/47149.html

What a joke! After events in Georgia, does this baboon really think that NATO would touch them with a 10-foot poll?

Here's to Azerbaboonistan's death!

[Armanen]

Re: Georgian-South Ossetian conflict

haha, azerbaijan in nato now that would be funny. I can sort of understand turkey, at least they have elections and the people have some choice, but azerbaijan is one of the least democratic nations in the world. However, I wouldn't put it past nato to accept azerbaijan and call it "democratic".

[Federate]

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Once we have a Russian garantee that they will help us, then we could officially recognize NKR.

With this said, here's an article from azerbaboon press on the topic
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"Forcing Azerbaijan to peace" by Armenia and Russia

August of 2008 may enter the history of Azerbaijan as a period of determination of our country's fate, as there is a real threat to its territorial integrity.

Armenia, which occupied Azerbaijani lands under Russia's support, has passed to an active pressure on our country in the negotiation process on the resolution of the Armenian-Azerbaijani conflict over Nagorno Karabakh.

This pressure is put again under support of Russia, which, by its occupation of Georgia and open support of separatism, openly demonstrated to Armenians whose side it will take in the Karabakh conflict. In fact, Armenia and Russia are now forcing Azerbaijan to peace, which is profitable for Armenia and Russia, but which is a disgrace for Azerbaijan and dangerous for the further territorial integrity of our country.

After Russia openly occupied Georgia, the bellicose and self-confident statements from Armenian side have become more frequent. Notably, that they are voiced by either representatives of Armenian powers or Armenian opposition.

Thus, the first president of Armenia Levon Ter-Petrosyan also openly demonstrated readiness to bow and scrape before Russia. According to him, no one can challenge the fact that "by its decisive interference Russia has rescued the South Ossetian people from genocide". Naturally, he said nothing of the genocide of Georgians, which is currently continued by Russian troops, Kazak volunteers and Ossetians. This can be understood, as nothing more is expected from a politician, who was leading Armenia in the years, when Russia helped it to occupy Nagorno Karabakh, when the genocide of Azerbaijanis in Khojaly was committed. It is clear that Ter-Petrosyan, who decided to throw off the mask of a pro-western politician, openly flirted with the Kremlin for his political future. He seems to consider that he will not need this mask again and that the future of Armenia and the entire South Caucasus is in the hands of those, who will bow lower before Russia.

The same opinion is also supported by working Armenian President Serzh Sargsyan. He said "the tragic events in South Ossetia proved that such conflicts should be settled on the basis of people's free will. Otherwise, we will inevitably witness ethnic separatism and violation of the norms of international humanitarian law".

The subtext of this declaration is clear: "Azerbaijan and the world society should recognize the independence of Nagorno Karabakh, otherwise, Russia will enter its troops and force Azerbaijan to peace". This is a hidden threat not only to our country but also to the established world order. It is not by accident that this declaration was voiced by a person, who personally took part in the Karabakh war and fired at peaceful Azerbaijani civilians!

After this announcement of Sargsyan and the overall open pro-Russian moods among the political establishment of Armenia, Azerbaijani diplomacy has a good chance to put the equality sign between the Armenian politicians, who rule Armenia, owing to Russia's armed aggression against Azerbaijan and Mr Kokoyti and Baqapsh, who were appointed as leaders of unrecognized South Ossetia and Abkhazia by the Kremlin.

But the most important is that Azerbaijan should clearly understand that Russia may pass from verbal support of Armenia to definite pressure on our country. The declaration of CSTO secretary general Nikolai Bordjuzha, who confirmed that in case of a threat to one of the member-states, the fourth article of the contract will be executed, is one of the components of pressure on Azerbaijan by Russia.

Certainly, most will remain unhidden. For example, direct or indirect threats from Russian side to the BTC pipeline in a form of bombs, which can be dropped by Russian pilots "by accident", are possible. The talks about the US failure to secure Georgia from Russian military aggression are possible during the meeting between the leaderships of Russia and Azerbaijan, which means that we should draw conclusions and agree to recognize the independence of Nagorno Karabakh. Otherwise, Russian tanks may immediately be directed to Baku, like in case with Tbilisi. In other words, they will "force us to peace" diplomatically.

The only way out is Azerbaijan's soonest integration with NATO. We should respond by force to another force. The only force, which can resist growing appetites of the Kremlin is NATO. They have not left a choice to us. Any delay in this issue equals to death.

Baboon source http://www.today.az/news/politics/47149.html

[Federate]

Re: Georgian-South Ossetian conflict

In the regnum article it said official Yerevan may recognize Artsakh on the 25th of August. I don't think it will happen that soon or even within this year.

What are your thoughts?

We should constantly threaten the baboonjans with recognition as long as they threaten to use force against NKR.

Once we have a Russian garantee that they will help us, then we could officially recognize NKR.

[Armanen]

Re: Georgian-South Ossetian conflict

In the regnum article it said official Yerevan may recognize Artsakh on the 25th of August. I don't think it will happen that soon or even within this year.

What are your thoughts?

[KarotheGreat]

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That's fine Baron Nakhaga, but don't ever let your guard down.

I would say no they see that SO and Abkhazia are getting independence and NK will follow after so they'll make sure to attack. I hope they aren't letting the guard down in Yerevan.

[crusader1492]

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That's fine Baron Nakhaga, but don't ever let your guard down.

Karabakh War 'Less Likely After Georgia Debacle'

YEREVAN (RFE/RL)--Georgia's ill-fated bid to win back South Ossetia will discourage Azerbaijani from attempting to resolve the Nagorno-Karabakh conflict by force, President Serzh Sarkisian said on Thursday.

In a clear reference to Azerbaijan, Sarkisian pointed out that Armenia has repeatedly raised the alarm over “some regional countries” embarking on an “unprecedented” military build-up to prevail in territorial disputes with their neighbors.

“We believe that the military way of resolving conflicts is futile and that the events in South Ossetia will have a sobering impact on those who still have illusions about forcible solutions,” he told visiting senior defense officials from former Soviet republics making up the Russian-led Collective Security Treaty Organization (CSTO).

The officials were in Yerevan for a regular meeting of the governing body of the six-nation defense pact. Armenia assumed the CSTO's rotating presidency during the meeting.

Sarkisian for the first time publicly drew parallels between the conflicts in Karabakh and South Ossetia and criticized Georgia for its August 8 military assault on the breakaway territory, which triggered a harsh Russian retaliation. “The tragic events in South Ossetia showed that a military response to self-determination movements in the South Caucasus are fraught with serious military and geopolitical consequences,” he said.

They also underscored the need to settle regional ethnic conflicts on the basis of the principle of nations' self-determination, added Sarkisian.

[Armanen]

Re: Georgian-South Ossetian conflict

after the regional countries integrate into the
Euroatlantic space, Turkey will lose this significance for the
West. This is where its interests coincide with those of Russia,"
Zerkalo said.

That's a big "if", and it's very stupid to assume the Cacausus will be successfully integrated into nato, especially after the recent conflict in the region.