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    Russia's Stock Market long known as the playground for the nation's oligarchs have suffered immensely as a result of the global financial meltdown started in the US. However, the overall economy of the Russian Federation, jump started several years ago by petrodollars, continues to perform well.

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    Putin: US image damaged forever over economy woes



    The financial crisis has irreparably damaged the image of the U.S. as the leader of the free world and the global economy, Russian Prime Minister Vladimir Putin said Thursday. Putin's remarks during a Communist Party meeting were the latest Russian attack singling out the U.S. as the chief culprit in the global financial turmoil. "Trust in the United States as the leader of the free world and the free economy, and confidence in Wall Street as the center of that trust, has been damaged, I believe, forever," Putin said. "There will be no return to the previous situation." Putin and President Dmitry Medvedev have repeatedly accused the U.S. of responsibility for the crisis and called for changes in the world financial system. Finance ministers of the G-7 — the United States, Canada, Britain, France, Germany, Italy and Japan — meet beginning Friday in Washington. When Russia joins the group for political discussions, it becomes the G-8.

    Source: http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5h...SeI4AD93N6OBG1

    Russian Economy Has Very Strong Foundation - Pwc



    PricewaterhouseCoopers (PwC) believes the current situation in the Russian economy differs from what is taking place in the West, Peter Gerendasi, PwC general director and managing partner in Russia, told journalists in Kazan on Thursday. PwC feels the economic foundation in Russia is very strong and the only problem that needs to be resolved quickly is an increase in liquidity in the banking system, he said. The current share prices on the Russian market are very low - speculatively low - and do not reflect the actual value of the companies, he said. Gerendasi said PwC supports the steps the Russian government is taking to bolster liquidity and hopes they will produce a positive effect. All the actions and changes the government plans to make need to be done quickly to receive the most positive effect possible, he said. It is difficult to predict how the situation will unfold further, he said. Gerendasi said he thinks the turbulence will continue on the market for a while longer, but said he is hoping to see some positive changes within a year. Gerendasi and Tatarstan Prime Minister Rustam Minnikhanov signed an agreement on cooperation between PwC and the republic in Kazan on Thursday.

    Source: http://www.istockanalyst.com/article...d_2695543.html

    Budget Surplus Tops 2 Trillion Rubles



    The surplus in the Russian federal budget from January to September exceeded 2.5 trillion rubles (8.1 percent of the GDP), RIA Novosti reports, citing Finance Ministry data. A year ago at the same time, the surplus was slightly over 1.6 trillion rubles. Income to the Russian budget was 7.2 trillion rubles in that period this year, which is almost 80 percent of the plan for the entire year. Expenditure reached 4.6 trillion rubles, or 61.1 percent of plan.
    The consolidated budget, that is the combined federal and regional budgets, topped 2.5 trillion rubles in surplus at the beginning of September. It was also notable that the biggest expense in the first half of the year was defense. Russia receives is main income from the Federal Tax Service, which put 3.2 trillion rubles in state coffers, and the Federal Customs Service, which contributed 3.5 trillion rubles.

    Source: http://www.kommersant.com/p-13385/fe...udget_surplus/

    Russian firms to get up to $50 bln to refinance foreign debt



    Russia's government is to allocate up to $50 billion for companies to refinance their foreign debt, Prime Minister Vladimir Putin said on Friday. "Up to $50 billion is being earmarked to refinance borrowings made by Russian companies abroad," Putin told a cabinet meeting. He said the state-run VEB bank would broker the transactions. Putin also said the government had decided to place up to 175 billion rubles ($6.7 billion) in Russian securities in 2008 and the same sum in 2009, with VEB being the operator. The Russian premier said the government was drafting a bill to provide subordinated loans of up to 950 billion rubles ($36 billion) to banks for 10 years. "These funds will be used to increase banks' capitalization and to solve liquidity problems," Putin said at a cabinet session. On October 7, President Dmitry Medvedev said at an economic conference that the government would issue banks a $36 billion subordinated loan for at least five years. Russia's financial system has been affected by a global credit crunch which started in the U.S. and quickly spread to Asia and Europe leading to record losses on Russia's financial markets, rising interest rates and a liquidity shortage.

    Source: http://en.rian.ru/business/20081010/117663950.html

    In related news:

    Iceland turns to Russia for bailout



    Russia has agreed to bail out Iceland by granting this small island state a huge stabilization loan at an unbelievably low interest rate. Is it an act of wanton generosity, or a far-sighted geopolitical step? And in general, four billion euros, is it a lot or a little? The fate of Iceland has until recently not concerned Russia one bit. Now only a lazy person is not discussing the incredible sum the "island of stability" is going to inject into the economy of a sinking island of geysers. Europe has meanwhile been discussing Iceland for a long time. Hedge-fund country, an example of liberal economic regulation and a model of a rapidly developing economy, Iceland was the first in the world to feel the impact of a full-bodied economic crisis. This happened at the end of 2007. Since this year began, Iceland's currency - the krona - has lost one-third of its value against the euro. Iceland's leading banks - Kaupthing, Glitnir and Landsbanki - have been marauded by international financial sharks. At the end of September, the country's authorities bought out (read, nationalized) Glitnir bank, and on October 7 Landsbanki, while on the same day Kaupthing bank received a 500 million euro loan from Iceland's National Bank. By the autumn of 2008 it had become clear Iceland might become the world's first country to suffer a default.

    Why is the bubble of Iceland's economy bursting so loudly? It ballooned too rapidly, the IMF believes. In 2003-2007, the country's GDP had risen by 25%, with this robust growth fed mainly by outside borrowing. To attract foreign investments, the authorities strengthened the currency and ratcheted up interest rates (by the beginning of 2008, they were the highest in Europe - 15.5% per annum). The result was a monstrous misbalance: a modest GDP, on the one hand, and immense financial assets and tremendous liabilities, on the other. According to 2007 figures, Iceland's GDP was $16 billion, while its financial assets stood at 1,000% of GDP and an external debt of 550% of GDP. With Iceland teetering on the brink of default, Russia's stabilization loan of four billion euros is a lifebelt, and a very sizeable one (on the evening of October 7, Finance Minister Alexei Kudrin acknowledged Russia's readiness to pay, although previously he had denied such claims by Iceland's National Bank). Judge for yourself: when, in May 2008, Iceland was drowning, the central banks of three Scandinavian countries - Sweden, Denmark and Norway - set up a special $2.3 billion rescue fund for Iceland. Now Russia alone is ready to fork over two and a half times as much for the same purpose. In other words, four billion euros by Iceland's standards is substantial.

    In Russian eyes, it is a vast sum, too. And one pledged at a very fair rate. To judge from a release issued by Iceland's National Bank, Russia promised it at LIBOR+(0.3-0.5)%. This compares with LIBOR+1% at which the Russian Central Bank wants to offer loans to Russia's Vnesheconombank. At a time when Russian authorities hold crisis emergency meetings almost daily, this looks strange, to say the least. The man in the street would say this is no time for liberal loans when one's own existence is at stake. This man's response would not be quite right, in my opinion. There are several reasons why Russia should agree to issue the loan to Iceland. The first and overwhelming one is geo-economic. Leaders in many countries are gradually beginning to understand that a world caught in the maelstrom of a financial crisis could be saved only by cooperative efforts. This was a theme running through a three-day world policy conference in Evian; it will certainly be taken up at an annual meeting of the International Monetary Fund and World Bank.

    WB chief Robert Zoellick only recently proposed that the G8 also include BRIC countries (Brazil, Russia, India and China), Mexico, Saudi Arabia and South Africa. World leaders more and more often speak of the need to shelve personal ambitions, put away political squabbles and do something. To come to the aid of Iceland at such a time has been for Russia a decision prompted by stark necessity. Russia has a rich war chest of windfall oil money. By the end of September, its Central Bank had $566 billion in international reserves, and $32-plus billion in the National Welfare Fund and the Reserve Fund. Of course, Russia could sit it out on its "island of stability" and fight the crisis within its four walls. But in this case Russia risks suddenly discovering that the global financial storm whipped up even further by Iceland's hurricane has wiped out all its stockpiled reserves. Most of Iceland's lenders are European banks. Should Iceland declare a default, the whole of Europe would go into a spin, and would drag Russia after it, which now has a chance to scrape its way out of the crisis the cheap way. It emerges that by saving Iceland, Russia is saving itself first. Other considerations are less global and more pragmatic. Crises come and go, but allies (sometimes) remain.

    Iceland, a rapidly developing economy and a happy hunting ground for businessmen from many European countries, is certain to remember this gesture and take more kindly to Russian investments in the future. So far, Russia-Iceland trade has been $100 million per year. And it was only shortly before the crisis that Russian business (represented by Roman Abramovich and Oleg Deripaska) began exploring the country's investment possibilities. Now the price for entering Iceland's economy could prove very low. Besides, it makes a good staging post for flights to Latin America.

    Source: http://en.rian.ru/analysis/20081010/117659587.html
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    • Re: America's Financial Crisis

      Americas Bubble Economy: Profit When It Pops




      America’s Bubble Economy Top 10 Strategies for Staying Afloat: http://www.americasbubbleeconomy.com...port100306.pdf

      A timely guide to creating wealth during the impending financial crisis


      Americas Bubble Economy explains what drove the bubble to grow, when and why it will burst, who will win and lose, and how to cash in on the tremendous financial opportunities it will create. It provides clear and compelling evidence that the stock market and the dollar are both bubbles that, like the internet bubble of 1999, will inevitably pop in the next 2-5 years. The book puts the perfect storm of economic crisis in the much larger context of the overall evolution of money and society and offers a realistic assessment of the current business climate with suggestions for rational management in challenging times. It shows readers what to do right now to protect assets and position themselves to make huge profits in foreign currencies, the stock market, gold, and other strategies for cashing in on what will be the biggest transfer of wealth in human history. While most people ignore the warning signs, those who move quickly and correctly can position themselves now to profit from what will be the greatest financial opportunity of the coming decade. Instantly engaging and crystal clear, America’s Bubble Economy: Profit When It Pops, cuts through the denial about our over-valued dollar, over-hyped stock market, over-priced real estate, crushing consumer debt, tremendous trade deficit, and astronomical government debt, upon which the US, European, and Asian economies now depend. More importantly, America’s Bubble Economy offers priceless, truly original insights for protecting assets and creating tremendous wealth for ordinary people (not just the fabulously wealthy) during the coming financial crisis. The book also illuminates how this unique moment fits into the broader evolution of money and society.

      About the authors

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      Source: http://www.researchandmarkets.com/re...t_when_it_pops
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      • Re: America's Financial Crisis

        Russia > USA
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          The Party is Over
          by Peter Schiff, Euro Pacific Capital | October 10, 2008


          More than just a mere liquidity or credit crisis, the current financial storm represents the death throes of the old global economic order, and perhaps the birth pains of a new one. The sun is setting on the borrow and spend culture that has defined us for a generation. Our long ride on the global gravy train is finally coming to an end, and once it does nothing will be the same. The sooner we come to grips with this the better.

          Despite the myriad of proposals that are coming from Washington and other world capitals, we must understand that this crisis cannot be cured by governments. In the United States, credit is gone because savings are gone. Our shallow pool of savings has been depleted through bad loans, and we can no longer entice foreigners to lend us their available savings. Given that we are already too loaded up on existing debt they we cannot realistically repay, who can blame them for not wanting to lend us more?

          As a result, the free market is trying to put an end to our spending spree. Without savings or home equity to fall back on, Americans struggling with rising prices are finally being forced to cut back. This has terrified our leaders and is causing them to dismantle the remaining structure of our free enterprise-based economic system.

          The intention of all these daily federal interventions is to keep the credit spigots open so Americans can go even deeper into debt to buy more stuff they can't actually afford. This should be clear enough to anyone who listens to what our leaders are actually saying. When speaking about the need for an even larger fiscal stimulus package, Barney Frank, chairman of the House Financial Services Committee, said, "We have to prop up consumption." He has it backwards. The government has been propping up consumption for far too long, and the best thing they can do now is remove the props so spending can be replaced by savings.

          The sad reality is that we borrowed and spent our way into this crisis, and we are not going to borrow and spend our way out of it. Legitimate credit can only be supplied if there are genuine savings to finance it. Savings can't be magically concocted into existence by a printing press, but can only be created by consumers who spend less than they earn. Efforts to fool the market will not work and will ultimately lead to a monetary disaster and runaway inflation.

          Were the government to allow market forces to work, Americans would now have to pay cash for their consumption. That would mean no instant credit for new cars, plasma TVs, appliances, consumer electronics, clothing, furniture, etc. Unless buyers actually had the cash in their checking accounts these purchases would have to be deferred. From an economic perspective this is precisely what the doctor ordered. But for an economy based 72 percent on consumer spending, the medicine will go down hard.

          Ultimately, a serious reduction in consumer and mortgage credit, combined with an increase in personal savings, would again provide a pool of needed capital for businesses to produce products and provide employment opportunities. However, the danger is that this potential credit could be completely crowded out by massive borrowing by the Federal Government. In addition, prices for such things as houses and college tuition will fall sharply, as the credit artificially propping them up disappears. People would still be able to buy houses and send their kids to college only they would pay much lower prices when they do.

          However, if the government keeps creating inflation to artificially sustain consumer borrowing and spending, there will be no savings left to fund anything and prices will be so high that despite massive consumer spending there will be few goods that Americans could actually afford to buy.


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          • Re: America's Financial Crisis

            Will the American Car industry survive the coming depression?

            It seams the last few reaming industries in America are on the verge of bankruptcy.

            GM in 2000 it was trading for around $80.00 today under $5.00
            Ford in 2000 was trading at around $40.00 today under $2.00
            Chrysler which I believe is privately owned by Cerberus funds is on the block of sale ... again.

            What do we have in perspective?
            Ford wants to sell its shares in Mazad to acquire some cash before Bankruptcy.
            GM and Chrysler are talking on merging, as if two bad apples will make one good apple.

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              Red Alert: The G-7 -- Geopolitics, Politics and the Financial Crisis

              The finance ministers of the G-7 countries are meeting in Washington. The first announcements on the meetings will come this weekend. It is not too extreme to say that the outcome of these meetings could redefine how the financial markets work, certainly for months and perhaps for a generation. The Americans are arguing that the regime of intervention and bailouts be allowed to continue. Others, like the British, are arguing for what in effect would be the nationalization of financial markets on a global scale. It is not clear what will be decided, but it is clear that this meeting matters.

              The meetings will extend through the weekend to include members of the G-20 countries, which together account for about 90 percent of the global economy. This meeting was called because previous steps have not freed up lending between financial institutions, and the financial problem has increasingly become an economic one, affecting production and consumption in the global economy. The political leadership of these countries is under extreme pressure from the public to do something to solve — or at least alleviate — the problem.

              Underlying this political pressure is a sense that the financial class, people who run global financial institutions, have failed to behave responsibly and effectively, and have therefore lost their legitimacy. The expectation, reasonable or not, is that the political system will now supplant these managers and impose at least a temporary solution. The finance ministers therefore have a political mandate, almost global in scope, to act decisively. The question is what they will do?

              That question then divides further into two parts. The first is whether they will try to craft a single, global, integrated solution. The second is the degree to which they will take control of the financial system — and inter-financial institution lending in particular. (A primary reason for the credit crunch is that banks are currently afraid to lend — even to each other.) Thus far, attempts at solutions on the whole have been national rather than international. In addition, they have been built around incentivizing certain action and increasing the available money in the system.

              So far, this hasn’t worked. The first problem is that financial institutions have not increased interbank lending significantly because they are concerned about the unknowns in the borrower’s balance sheet, and about the borrowers’ ability to repay the loans. With even large institutions failing, the fear is that other institutions will fail, but since the identity of the ones that will fail is unknown, lending on any terms — with or without government money — is imprudent. There is more lending to non-financial corporations than to financial ones because fewer unknowns are involved. Therefore, in the United States, infusions and promises of infusion of funds have not solved the basic problem: the uncertain solvency of the borrower.

              The second problem is the international character of the crisis. An example from the Icelandic meltdown is relevant. The government of Iceland promised to repay Icelandic depositors in the island country’s failed banks. They did not extend the guarantee to non-Icelandic depositors. Partly they simply didn’t have the cash, but partly the view has been that taking care of one’s own takes priority. Countries do not want to bail out foreigners, and different governments do not want to assume the liabilities of other nations. The nature of political solutions is always that politicians respond to their own constituencies, not to people who can’t vote for them.

              This weekend some basic decisions have to be made. The first is whether to give the bailouts time to work, to increase the packages or to accept that they have failed and move to the next step. The next step is for governments and central banks to take over decision making from financial institutions, and cause them to lend. This can be done in one of two ways. The first is to guarantee the loans made between financial institutions so that solvency is not an issue and risk is eliminated. The second is to directly take over the lending process, with the state dictating how much is lent to whom. In a real sense, the distinction between the two is not as significant as it appears. The market is abolished and wealth is distributed through mechanisms created by the state, with risk eliminated from the system, or more precisely, transferred from the lender to the taxing authority of the state.

              The more complex issue is how to manage this on an international scale. For example, American banks lend to European banks. If the United States comes up with a plan which guarantees loans to U.S. banks but not European banks, and Europeans lend to Europe and not the United States, the integration of the global economy will very quickly shatter, leading to significant limitations on international trade, currency convertibility and so on. You will nationalize economies that can’t stand being purely national.

              At the same time, there is no global mechanism for managing radical solutions. In taking over lending or guarantees, the administrative structure is everything. Managing the interbank-lending of the global economy is something for which there is no institution. And even with coordination, finance ministries and central banks would find it difficult to bear the burden — not to mention managing the system’s Herculean size and labyrinthine complexity. But if the G-7 in effect nationalize global financial systems and do it without international understandings and coordination, the consequences will be immediate and serious.

              The G-7 is looking hard for a solution that will not require this level of intrusion, both because they don’t want to abolish markets even temporarily, and more important, because they have no idea how to manage this on a global scale. They very much want to have the problem solved with liquidity injections and bailouts. Their inclination is to give the current regime some more time. The problem is that the global equity markets are destroying value at extremely high rates and declines are approaching historic levels.

              In other words, a crisis in the financial system is becoming an economic problem — and that means public pressure will surge, not decline. Therefore, it is plausible that they might choose to ask for what FDR did in 1933, a bank holiday, which in this case would be the suspension of trading on equity markets globally for several days while administrative solutions are reached. We have no information whatsoever that they are thinking of this, but in starting to grapple with a problem of this magnitude — and searching for solutions on this scale — it is totally understandable that they might like to buy some time.

              It is not clear what they will decide. Fundamental issues to watch for are whether they move from manipulating markets through government intrusions that leave the markets fundamentally free, or do they abandon free markets at least temporarily.

              Another such issue is whether they can find a way to do this globally or whether it will be done nationally. If they do go international and suspending markets, the question is how they will unwind this situation. It will be easier to start this than to end it and state-controlled markets are usually not very attractive in the long run. But then again, neither is where we are now.
              For the first time in more than 600 years, Armenia is free and independent, and we are therefore obligated
              to place our national interests ahead of our personal gains or aspirations.



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              • Re: America's Financial Crisis

                Nightmare on Wall Street as U.S. debt hits record high




                America - the end of an era: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sM_SRhZcNFE

                The United States has the highest level of foreign debt in the world, which has nearly doubled during the Presidency of George W. Bush. The country’s national debt has also just reached its ultimate high. A debt clock was put up in a New York street in 1989. Then the figure was around 2.7 trillion dollars. Nearly 20 years later, that number has increased almost fivefold and exceeded the expectations of the clock’s designers. Just a few weeks ago, the clock ran out of space. When the figure hit 10 trillion it forced the dollar sign out of its allocated space. A re-design is underway, with enough space for a quadrillion - a number so obscure that few could imagine what it amounts to. Manhattan's Times Square is a favourite tourist hotspot. Now, more and more Americans come to take photos of the frightening figure - because even though the economy is taking a kicking, this clock just keeps on ticking. Very few U.S. citizens can say they are free of the credit vice - and who can blame them? Low rates, alluring deals - and all you ever wanted, but couldn't afford, suddenly becomes possible. But this American Dream is turning into a nightmare. Wall Street is likely to take most of the blame. “During the age of Reagan Wall Street was immune to that kind of criticism and political attention,” says historian Steven Fraser. “Now we can see enormous widespread anger. I think in the foreseeable future Wall Street will be the object of great scrutiny, supervision, anger and suspicion.” Fraser has been fascinated by the enigma of Wall Street for years. History repeats itself in many ways, but the scenario right now reminded him of another famous figure. “They created a Frankenstein. Nobody knows what is going on, that’s what makes the moment so frightening,” he said. It seems history has presented this crisis in a new light. Ever since the end of WW2, national debt decreased with every Democratic administration. After the presidency of Ronald Reagan, every Republican term has seen a steep rise in debt. When George W Bush took office, the figure stood at 5.7 trillion dollars. But the fact that figure has nearly doubled has led to accusations he’s used the nation as an AmEx Black card. His time is about to run out, but someone else will have to pick up the tab.

                Source: http://www.russiatoday.com/news/news/31727
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                • Re: America's Financial Crisis

                  Originally posted by Azad View Post
                  Ford in 2000 was trading at around $40.00 today under $2.00
                  Holly crap. Is it time to buy?

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                    By the way, I have a fairly conservative mutual fund that suffered ridiculous losses in the last few days.

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                    • Re: America's Financial Crisis

                      Originally posted by skhara View Post
                      Holly crap. Is it time to buy?
                      I wouldn't touch any of them with a ten-foot pole.

                      "GM said to seek merger with Ford before Chrysler
                      October 12, 2008

                      DETROIT: Before General Motors began exploring a possible merger with Chrysler — talks that first came to light on Friday — GM proposed a similar deal with its other cross-town rival, Ford Motor, two people with knowledge of the talks said Saturday.

                      GM executives approached Ford about a possible merger in July, but Ford rejected the idea and ended the discussions last month, these people said.

                      After Ford decided to remain independent amid an increasingly difficult auto market, GM turned its attention to Chrysler. For the last month, it has been in preliminary merger talks with Chrysler's owner, the private-equity firm Cerberus Capital Management.

                      People with knowledge of the talks described the chances of a deal as "50-50."

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