Muslims occupy Europe

[Christina]

Re: Muslims occupy Europe

There is a caption on the bottom of one the Korans of the American English version that
states the clear aim of Islam is to build mosques in strategic locations in the world
and to make the world under Islam!

God forbid!

That they also dictate to the local Greek officials that the women in their
region must all wear the burqua! This includes the Greek women that have
lived in that region with their families for centuries!

The politicans are into "politically correct" this and that so the citizens of Greece are
fed up with this!

Now in France the muslim women are doing what their men and leaders say and
they even drive with the burqua!

Now the Iman of the Muslims is demanding the French govt give millions so he can
build the largest mosque in all of France! (what? he has already 4 or 5!)

The motto: "Actions speak louder than words!" applies here.

If no one believes me--go look through the Koran!

Now the French people and govt has had enough! I copied and posted the
section so I hope it comes on for you to read, if not let me know.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100914/ap_on_re_eu/eu_france_forbidding_the_veil

[KanadaHye]

Re: Muslims occupy Europe

Right it is easier to criticize Christianity: they don't fight back. The religion doesn't allow it. Go on in that direction; it's safe.

Bye ...

The pen is mightier than the sword.

[Eddo211]

Re: Muslims occupy Europe

Lest you are insinuating to the genocide and the Armenians' treatment, let's also not forget that the Young Turk movement was a pan-Turkic nationalist movement and the destruction of Armenians was not a result of Islamist thinking. In fact, nothing in Islam approves of genocide and contrary to the twisted and ideological interpretation of Islam you and gegev have engaged in, many Muslims in Ottoman Turkey and Arabs helped Armenians.

It continuously amazes me how people like you twist historic events to fit your ideological mold.

And furthermore, lest you are still confused, make no mistake about the fact that I am fully aware of the nature of Islam being a closed system and the rigidity which its creed contains. However, unlike your blindness, I also recognize the same point in Christianity, which has a bigger claim to forced conversions than Islam going back to Constantine, and even as far into the present as the Spaniard conquistadors.

No, I was not talking about the AG but since you brought it up Islam was used as an effective tool by Nationalists against us.....it doesn't take much critical thinking to see who is the enemy (not Islam itself but Muslims radicals who wheeled it against Armenians) and we Armenians do not assocciate with that type of Christianity that you describe.

I am not twisting any historical events that I know of and I don't have an idiological mold because it is always subject to updates and it is not written in stone. Maybe if you hear what some of these Muslims say about us Armenians you would change your perspective on it.

[gegev]

Re: Muslims occupy Europe

This isn't about defending Islam .....

Right it is easier to criticize Christianity: they don't fight back. The religion doesn't allow it. Go on in that direction; it's safe.

Bye ...

[Anonymouse]

Re: Muslims occupy Europe

How can Armenians defend Islam, its beyond me.

This isn't about defending Islam or attacking Islam. That you even think in this Manichaen naive manner is a testament to your lack of critical thinking. This is about trying to maintain coherence so as not to be lost in translation. There are all sorts of information that are released to the masses from every orifice of communication and it is incumbent upon us alone to maintain clarity and distill all of this. It is important not to succumb to any ideology or ism that claims to have answers to everything for that is how deception occurs. Unfortunately, you cannot discern this nuance.

Like Runner said in another thread.....we Armenians have a very short memory, or maybe some of us are too scared to face the ugly reality.
Some of us who has lived in Islamic countries know this well. ha

Lest you are insinuating to the genocide and the Armenians' treatment, let's also not forget that the Young Turk movement was a pan-Turkic nationalist movement and the destruction of Armenians was not a result of Islamist thinking. In fact, nothing in Islam approves of genocide and contrary to the twisted and ideological interpretation of Islam you and gegev have engaged in, many Muslims in Ottoman Turkey and Arabs helped Armenians.

It continuously amazes me how people like you twist historic events to fit your ideological mold.

And furthermore, lest you are still confused, make no mistake about the fact that I am fully aware of the nature of Islam being a closed system and the rigidity which its creed contains. However, unlike your blindness, I also recognize the same point in Christianity, which has a bigger claim to forced conversions than Islam going back to Constantine, and even as far into the present as the Spaniard conquistadors.

[Anonymouse]

Re: Muslims occupy Europe

FYI:
The Shahids and the Mullahs who preached them the Islamic “Dar al-harb” doctrine are responsible for the 911 killings. My cave of crudeness isn’t responsible for it.
It’s the outcome of your generous forgiveness towards the powerful and fearsome Muslims; coming out of your soaring luxury palace of wisdom and indifference. Because you don’t want to confront the mighty; its dangerous, I know and agree. This is the real cause of the 9/11.

For you it is easier to fight me rather than urging Muslims to take out of their religion the concept of fighting infidels to submit them into Islam, that’s a wise and cautious attitude, I appreciate. But I have no intention to get converted into Islam. Therefore I don’t have the kind of wisdom and if I get it somehow; I wouldn’t use it.

Your post is very simplistic. Saying "So and so is responsible for the 911 killings" is as simplistic as it gets. There is plenty of evidence to cast doubt on the official story line as presented by the Bush administration and the media.

Furthermore, you ignore history and the effects of U.S. and Israeli aggression in their foreign policy including the continued destructions and incursions into Muslim lands which have sparked the recent "clash of civilizations." The proper term is called blowback.

But none of this matters because it is wasted on you for you ignore any variables that change the mental narrative you have come to be so fixated upon.

[KanadaHye]

Re: Muslims occupy Europe

FYI:
The Shahids and the Mullahs who preached them the Islamic “Dar al-harb” doctrine are responsible for the 911 killings. My cave of crudeness isn’t responsible for it.
It’s the outcome of your generous forgiveness towards the powerful and fearsome Muslims; coming out of your soaring luxury palace of wisdom and indifference. Because you don’t want to confront the mighty; its dangerous, I know and agree. This is the real cause of the 9/11.

How many countries whether Islamic or Communist or Socialist or whatever did the U.S. military invade/occupy/intervene before 9/11? I'd be willing to bet that 9/11 was a false flag operation to persuade a volunteer force to delve into such a mess that has been created. Americans don't control the American military complex.

[Eddo211]

Re: Muslims occupy Europe

How can Armenians defend Islam, its beyond me.

Like Runner said in another thread.....we Armenians have a very short memory, or maybe some of us are too scared to face the ugly reality.
Some of us who has lived in Islamic countries know this well. ha

[gegev]

Re: Muslims occupy Europe

Realities are a matter of perception. Unfortunately for the ignorant, the perception is all too often one of limitation. Now crawl back into the cave of crudeness.

FYI:
The Shahids and the Mullahs who preached them the Islamic “Dar al-harb” doctrine are responsible for the 911 killings. My cave of crudeness isn’t responsible for it.
It’s the outcome of your generous forgiveness towards the powerful and fearsome Muslims; coming out of your soaring luxury palace of wisdom and indifference. Because you don’t want to confront the mighty; its dangerous, I know and agree. This is the real cause of the 9/11.

For you it is easier to fight me rather than urging Muslims to take out of their religion the concept of fighting infidels to submit them into Islam, that’s a wise and cautious attitude, I appreciate. But I have no intention to get converted into Islam. Therefore I don’t have the kind of wisdom and if I get it somehow; I wouldn’t use it.

[Anonymouse]

Re: Muslims occupy Europe

Given the realities it isn't.

Realities are a matter of perception. Unfortunately for the ignorant, the perception is all too often one of limitation. Now crawl back into the cave of crudeness.