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  • #21
    Re: Revolution finely?

    The funding for education varies by states since each state has its own laws. I guess the state in which Mher lives in has good education friendly system but that is not the case for most states in usa. Most 18 year oldsdont know what they want to do for the rest of their lives and that is normal. Mos you are way wrong about big business in the USA it is nothing like it used to be. Big coorporations run the country now they make the laws and the laws are abusive to normal people. Normal people payed with theirlives and tax moneyfor hallburton to get its war and huge contracts. Even after the xxxx the banks pulledon people with the mortgages now they are trying to attach hidden fees and crazy interest rates in a sneaky manner hiding it all in fine print that you need 5 days and a microscope to read. The banks lobbied and won thus the financial system became derregulated and the whole world is still suffering from it now. Now that some regulation is being added they are holding the world economy hostage by demanding more deregulation or they will refuse to spend the trillions of money they are sitting on. It is blackmail-you deregulate and let us rape our customers or your economy will stay down. Big business starts wars, prevents you from geting health care, destroys peoples lives.. these are the things people are protesting. Big businesss ownes the media and fills your head with bullcrap so you will think the way you do. Most of the xxxx you hear on the news is a flat out lie the rest is half truths. It takes a while to figure this out so i understand that young people like you dont know this but when older people tell you that these kinds of protests are being done by good people for very good and important causes maybe you should listen or atleast look into the matter before calling them lazy or some other xxxx. Some people understand that we are living a lie and want to fix it and we should be helping or atleast not insulting them.
    Hayastan or Bust.

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    • #22
      Re: Revolution finely?

      Originally posted by KanadaHye View Post
      Yeah, they spend all their time watching movies, sports then party, drink and fu@k when they are supposed to be getting an education then they complain about being poor. Let them all finally sink in the poor culture that they hold so high.
      The forum's Taliban-in-residence speaks. However, unlike the real Talban, cowardly Kanadahye choses to parasitically live off of the society he (in private) throws scorn at.
      Plenipotentiary meow!

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      • #23
        Re: Revolution finely?

        Originally posted by Haykakan View Post
        The funding for education varies by states since each state has its own laws. I guess the state in which Mher lives in has good education friendly system but that is not the case for most states in usa. Most 18 year oldsdont know what they want to do for the rest of their lives and that is normal. Mos you are way wrong about big business in the USA it is nothing like it used to be. Big coorporations run the country now they make the laws and the laws are abusive to normal people. Normal people payed with theirlives and tax moneyfor hallburton to get its war and huge contracts. Even after the xxxx the banks pulledon people with the mortgages now they are trying to attach hidden fees and crazy interest rates in a sneaky manner hiding it all in fine print that you need 5 days and a microscope to read. The banks lobbied and won thus the financial system became derregulated and the whole world is still suffering from it now. Now that some regulation is being added they are holding the world economy hostage by demanding more deregulation or they will refuse to spend the trillions of money they are sitting on. It is blackmail-you deregulate and let us rape our customers or your economy will stay down. Big business starts wars, prevents you from geting health care, destroys peoples lives.. these are the things people are protesting. Big businesss ownes the media and fills your head with bullcrap so you will think the way you do. Most of the xxxx you hear on the news is a flat out lie the rest is half truths. It takes a while to figure this out so i understand that young people like you dont know this but when older people tell you that these kinds of protests are being done by good people for very good and important causes maybe you should listen or atleast look into the matter before calling them lazy or some other xxxx. Some people understand that we are living a lie and want to fix it and we should be helping or atleast not insulting them.
        As I said, in the US, the political culture favours big businesses and corporations. In order to change that, the fundamental culture needs to be changed. When it comes to the financial woes of the US and the world, these people must understand that it isn't one factor that led to the woes, but rather many factors, including people taking loans that they couldn't afford to pay back. Why aren't those people targeted as well? Having banks be the only scapegoat in all this, doesn't reflect reality.
        Մեկ Ազգ, Մեկ Մշակույթ
        ---
        "Western Assimilation is the greatest threat to the Armenian nation since the Armenian Genocide."

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        • #24
          Re: Revolution finely?

          Originally posted by Mos View Post
          As I said, in the US, the political culture favours big businesses and corporations. In order to change that, the fundamental culture needs to be changed. When it comes to the financial woes of the US and the world, these people must understand that it isn't one factor that led to the woes, but rather many factors, including people taking loans that they couldn't afford to pay back. Why aren't those people targeted as well? Having banks be the only scapegoat in all this, doesn't reflect reality.
          The reality is the banks knew exactly what was going to happen - all of this happening is no accident! They know full well that if they let people borrow beyond their means that millions would do just that. I think there is going to be a change much like the changes sweeping south america with people taking control of their destinies. I was watching a documentary by oliver stone where he intervues the presidents of south american nations and it is movemts like these where regular people take over their own countries that leaves me with some optomism for the future of humanity. Americas population is quickly becoming more hispanic so perhaps the south american movement will one dayspread to america to via the hispanics. I only wish such a thing was possible in Armenia but i do not think it is because unlike south american countries Armenia has no resources and whatit does have is 100 million bloodthirsty turcks waiting to pounce. This is why while i support revolutions in most cases to bring about such positive social changes i reject such revolutions for Armenia because she is in a much worst and more dangerous situation which many here fail to realize. Chavez rebelled against the USA but he had oil and other resources and he didnt have 100 million enemies around to attack his country as it went through huge changes. That discusting pig who diguises himself as a religious man called Pat Robertson called for the execution of Chavez and the usa tried to do just that in a coupe which failed. For the record those socialist countries in south america have cut their poverty levels in half and extreme poverty by 70%! Banks are not scapegoats they are the tools of the evile people on earth who want to possess you and the imf is what they use as their weapon. The imf almost destroyed argentina which only got back on its feet after it stopped dealing with the imf. These countries went from record deficits and inflation under usa backed systems to hundreds of billions in surpluses under the socialist systems which took over and the quality of the peoples lives drasticly improved! These are the facts which i encourage you to chek for yourselves as you should be doing with any information you get.
          Hayastan or Bust.

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          • #25
            Re: Revolution finely?

            Originally posted by Haykakan View Post
            The reality is the banks knew exactly what was going to happen - all of this happening is no accident! They know full well that if they let people borrow beyond their means that millions would do just that. I think there is going to be a change much like the changes sweeping south america with people taking control of their destinies. I was watching a documentary by oliver stone where he intervues the presidents of south american nations and it is movemts like these where regular people take over their own countries that leaves me with some optomism for the future of humanity. Americas population is quickly becoming more hispanic so perhaps the south american movement will one dayspread to america to via the hispanics. I only wish such a thing was possible in Armenia but i do not think it is because unlike south american countries Armenia has no resources and whatit does have is 100 million bloodthirsty turcks waiting to pounce. This is why while i support revolutions in most cases to bring about such positive social changes i reject such revolutions for Armenia because she is in a much worst and more dangerous situation which many here fail to realize. Chavez rebelled against the USA but he had oil and other resources and he didnt have 100 million enemies around to attack his country as it went through huge changes. That discusting pig who diguises himself as a religious man called Pat Robertson called for the execution of Chavez and the usa tried to do just that in a coupe which failed. For the record those socialist countries in south america have cut their poverty levels in half and extreme poverty by 70%! Banks are not scapegoats they are the tools of the evile people on earth who want to possess you and the imf is what they use as their weapon. The imf almost destroyed argentina which only got back on its feet after it stopped dealing with the imf. These countries went from record deficits and inflation under usa backed systems to hundreds of billions in surpluses under the socialist systems which took over and the quality of the peoples lives drasticly improved! These are the facts which i encourage you to chek for yourselves as you should be doing with any information you get.
            To say that only banks were responsible for that is not accurate. Many of those people taking out bad loans, knowingly did so, lying about their financial history, financial abilities, and so forth. I am not saying that banks bear no responsibility, they do, but they don't bear all of the responsibility. There were bad seeds in the banks that knew about what was going to happen or used it to their own gain, but first off those people were dealt with and second, why should all the banks and all the people have to suffer? It's an oversimplification to say that all these banks were united in knowing and wanting this financial crisis to occur and helping it happen. Economies are more complex than that, and I believe that while people criticise those banks they should also criticise the people who lied on their mortgage applications in order to get money for house they couldn't afford. And let's not forget, the US government also played a role. I wouldn't mind hispanics becoming majority in US, because in all S. American countries tend to be pro-Armenian, and having a closer connection with S. America will be good for Armenia. When it comes to Turks wanting to pounce on us, I believe that we need to continue to fortify our armed forces, maintain alliance with Russia, explore such possibilities with Iran, and in all we have to do business and align ourselves with the anti-Turk countries, especially Greece, Cyprus, Serbia all of whom are historically hostile with the Turks. That historic hostility is important not temporary fighting (e.g. between Turkey and Israel). I also think we should develop nuclear weapons, possibly with help of Russia.
            Մեկ Ազգ, Մեկ Մշակույթ
            ---
            "Western Assimilation is the greatest threat to the Armenian nation since the Armenian Genocide."

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            • #26
              Re: Revolution finely?

              Originally posted by bell-the-cat View Post
              The forum's Taliban-in-residence speaks. However, unlike the real Talban, cowardly Kanadahye choses to parasitically live off of the society he (in private) throws scorn at.
              I don't live off xxxx. I've been working since I was 16, paid my own way for University without a penny from the government. I'm not a lazy welfare case like many English losers.
              "Nobody can give you freedom. Nobody can give you equality or justice or anything. If you're a man, you take it." ~Malcolm X

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              • #27
                Re: Revolution finely?

                lol what a coincidence, i watched the same documentary 3 days ago in class. However, you got to be careful of the source. Oliver Stone is a far left person by American standards, and not exactly unbiased.

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                • #28
                  Re: Revolution finely?



                  We're a very fortunate country and no one should be living under poverty, especially children. These people haven't seen the pain their governments cause in other parts of the world.
                  "Nobody can give you freedom. Nobody can give you equality or justice or anything. If you're a man, you take it." ~Malcolm X

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                  • #29
                    Re: Revolution finely?

                    Yo KanadaHye the wars and economic blackmail the USA has been engaged in is very much a part of these protests.
                    Hayastan or Bust.

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                    • #30
                      Re: Revolution finely?

                      Originally posted by Haykakan View Post
                      Yo KanadaHye the wars and economic blackmail the USA has been engaged in is very much a part of these protests.
                      Yeah, some protestors are out there for the right reasons... others just think it's like a party in the streets
                      "Nobody can give you freedom. Nobody can give you equality or justice or anything. If you're a man, you take it." ~Malcolm X

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