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  • Jam
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    Re: Consequences Of Attacking Iran And Why Tehran Is Not Worried

    Originally posted by KanadaHye View Post
    So what gives Israel the right to attack Iran when Iran is the only one in the area powerful enough to support the rights of the Arab/Palestinian people?
    It is not the business of the Islamic regime in Iran to protect Palestinians, Lebanese and Syrian Arabs! Iran has no right to do that. They did it once by supporting the Shia Arabs of Iraq against Saddam and it leaded to war where thousands of Iranians and Iraqis have lost their lives.

    Because Iran is messing around in that area Israel is doing the same in Iran, Iraqi Kurdistan and Azerbaijan.

    Btw, there are rich powerful Arab countries like Saudi Arabia, Egypt, VAE, Kuwait... that can support Palestinians and Hesbollah of Lebanese financially.
    Last edited by Jam; 09-02-2009, 12:58 PM.

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  • UrMistake
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    Re: Consequences Of Attacking Iran And Why Tehran Is Not Worried

    Originally posted by ArmSurvival View Post

    Silenced by who? Nobody "silenced" them.

    Actually, Zionists consider their movement to be a European nationalist movement. However, all of the European nationalist movements (Italian, Hungarian, etc.) already blossomed decades before 1890. So how is it that they are a "European nationalist movement" when they didn't even develop with the other European national movements? They reject the label of 'Semite' and consider themselves Europeans, but there is no parallel between their movement and any other European movement. In short, they are full of sh*t.
    What have to do with me the beliefs of the j ews and how they consider them selfs i just dont care,i merely point some historic facts that i think them as true.

    Silenced where all kind of rebellion to resist the authority,its very common just before Balkan wars and after.

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  • UrMistake
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    Re: Consequences Of Attacking Iran And Why Tehran Is Not Worried

    Originally posted by KanadaHye View Post
    So what gives Israel the right to attack Iran when Iran is the only one in the area powerful enough to support the rights of the Arab/Palestinian people? You're claiming Genocide of Palestinians is acceptable because Israel has a right to be a bigger state while those around it are treated like 3rd class citizens not worthy of life? There was nothing democratic about the way Israel was formed or many of its modern day policies.
    No i never said that i agree with there actions,if u read previous post u would know that im against there policy cause that makes them same with the nazi.
    Even then how come someone deny the right to live in his ancestral land?
    What will the Arabs claim?We killed the Christians and the native people during medieval ages,and now after 500 years we should deny the right of the survivors to have there own land.
    Last edited by UrMistake; 09-02-2009, 12:54 PM.

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  • KanadaHye
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    Re: Consequences Of Attacking Iran And Why Tehran Is Not Worried

    Originally posted by UrMistake View Post
    So so i never knew that they were offered there own countrie created within the ottoman rule.
    In the region small population existed continuously,and why would some of them leave there jobs and wealths and move to a dessert region?
    I told u as armenians and greek were the most wealthy of ottoman empire so they were.
    Its better to have strong and mostly rich diaspora than a pure countrie,
    also i doubt that before 1890 nationalism existed,as all of them we properly silenced.
    So what gives Israel the right to attack Iran when Iran is the only one in the area powerful enough to support the rights of the Arab/Palestinian people? You're claiming Genocide of Palestinians is acceptable because Israel has a right to be a bigger state while those around it are treated like 3rd class citizens not worthy of life? There was nothing democratic about the way Israel was formed or many of its modern day policies.

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  • ArmSurvival
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    Re: Consequences Of Attacking Iran And Why Tehran Is Not Worried

    Originally posted by UrMistake
    So so i never knew that they were offered there own countrie created within the ottoman rule.
    In the region small population existed continuously,and why would some of them leave there jobs and wealths and move to a dessert region?
    Being offered a country has nothing to do with it--- You said J ews were "forced" out of Palestine. I'm telling you that J ews were free to move to Palestine for over 500 years, but most of them chose to live in other places.

    And Palestine was not a "desert region" at that time. You should read the accounts of Zionist leaders who visited Palestine for the first time in the early 20th century. They wrote about how they expected to enter a desert, but were completely surprised that Palestine is a modern and developed region. The Palestinian farming sector, for example, was more advanced in the early 20th century than its Israeli counterpart is today.



    Originally posted by UrMistake
    also i doubt that before 1890 nationalism existed,as all of them we properly silenced.
    Silenced by who? Nobody "silenced" them.

    Actually, Zionists consider their movement to be a European nationalist movement. However, all of the European nationalist movements (Italian, Hungarian, etc.) already blossomed decades before 1890. So how is it that they are a "European nationalist movement" when they didn't even develop with the other European national movements? They reject the label of 'Semite' and consider themselves Europeans, but there is no parallel between their movement and any other European movement. In short, they are full of sh*t.

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  • UrMistake
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    Originally posted by ArmSurvival View Post
    You didn't answer my question: What was stopping Ottoman J ews (or any J ews for that matter) from moving to Palestine during the 500+ years of Ottoman rule?
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    So so i never knew that they were offered there own countrie created within the ottoman rule.
    In the region small population existed continuously,and why would some of them leave there jobs and wealths and move to a dessert region?
    I told u as armenians and greek were the most wealthy of ottoman empire so they were.
    Its better to have strong and mostly rich diaspora than a pure countrie,
    also i doubt that before 1890 nationalism existed,as all of them we properly silenced.

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  • ArmSurvival
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    Originally posted by UrMistake
    Dont forget u are talking about a nation that has been expelled and massacred many times.
    They migrate after the awaking of zionism.
    Staying in big economical center will ensure there survival this has been done by Greeks and Armenians also.
    You didn't answer my question: What was stopping Ottoman J ews (or any J ews for that matter) from moving to Palestine during the 500+ years of Ottoman rule?


    Originally posted by UrMistake
    True thats why i say they must stop voting ultra right parties and start recognitions of the Palestinian rights.
    Most citizens of Israel, by definition, are Zionists. They moved there from Germany, Poland, London, New York, Russia, Ukraine, etc. Many of these people are die-hard Zionists. You can't expect them to "stop voting ultra right parties".

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  • UrMistake
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    Originally posted by Haykakan View Post
    xxxs were offered lands in several places to start their nation without bothering or killing anyone but instead..... Zionism is a racist ideology like white supremecy and preaches similar ideas like the final solution under hitler. Hypocracy best describes the state of isreal today, they say never again but do it themselves.
    True thats why i say they must stop voting ultra right parties and start recognitions of the Palestinian rights.

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  • Haykakan
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    Re: Consequences Of Attacking Iran And Why Tehran Is Not Worried

    xxxs were offered lands in several places to start their nation without bothering or killing anyone but instead..... Zionism is a racist ideology like white supremecy and preaches similar ideas like the final solution under hitler. Hypocracy best describes the state of isreal today, they say never again but do it themselves.

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  • UrMistake
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    Originally posted by ArmSurvival View Post
    Oh cut the crap... "a state that has been given to arabs by ottomans"... Arabs were the majority when Turks conquered Palestine, and they were the majority when the Turks lost control of Palestine 500 years later. J ews were just a religious minority, like the Druze or Yezidi. So why don't you argue that Druze or Yezidi should have a state of their own?





    Actually, it is logical, and thats what happened. J ews were free to move to Palestine during Ottoman rule, but most of them chose to live in Constantinople, Alexandria, Salonika, Aleppo, etc.

    Can you tell us what was stopping Ottoman J ews from moving to Palestine during the 500+ years of Ottoman rule? Please enlighten us.
    Dont forget u are talking about a nation that has been expelled and massacred many times.
    They migrate after the awaking of zionism.
    Staying in big economical center will ensure there survival this has been done by Greeks and Armenians also.

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