Consequences Of Attacking Iran And Why Tehran Is Not Worried

[Anoush]

Re: Consequences Of Attacking Iran And Why Tehran Is Not Worried

Anoushka, the US military will never forget to give the world Micky Ds, BurgerKing, Popeyes, shrapnel and napalm.

Yeah really hrai, let's see; first they bomb the city and then they give away Micky D's, BurgerKings, Popeyes and what have yous.

[KanadaHye]

Re: Consequences Of Attacking Iran And Why Tehran Is Not Worried

Then you believe that France, The United Kingdom, India, Pakistan, United States, Russia are all terrorists. What planet are you on again? Also no one wants to give away their nukes and never will.

I know what planet I'm on... and I'd like to see it have a future. I know which countries are responsible for oppressing the weaker countries. I'm not comfortable living in a world where everyone is controlled, are you??

Anoushka, the US military will never forget to give the world Micky Ds, BurgerKing, Popeyes, shrapnel and napalm.

It is reassuring to find all those elements in over 130 countries

[hrai]

Re: Consequences Of Attacking Iran And Why Tehran Is Not Worried

Thanks for all the information KanadaHye, I didn't know all these numbers. The US really takes control of the world, doesn't she? Democratically mind you.

Anoushka, the US military will never forget to give the world Micky Ds, BurgerKing, Popeyes, shrapnel and napalm.

[hrai]

Re: Consequences Of Attacking Iran And Why Tehran Is Not Worried

Oh yes, Iran wants to control the world when the Pentagon currently owns or rents over 700 overseas bases in about 130 countries and HAS another 6,000 bases in the United States and its territories. Like you said, it's really crazy to even say it.

The worldwide total of U.S. military personnel in 2005, including those based domestically, was 1,840,062 supported by an additional 473,306 Defense Department civil service employees and 203,328 local hires. Its overseas bases, according to the Pentagon, contained 32,327 barracks, hangars, hospitals, and other buildings, which it owns, and 16,527 more that it leased. The size of these holdings was recorded in the inventory as covering 687,347 acres overseas and 29,819,492 acres worldwide, making the Pentagon easily one of the world's largest landlords.

These numbers, although staggeringly big, do not begin to cover all the actual bases we occupy globally. The 2005 Base Structure Report fails, for instance, to mention any garrisons in Kosovo (or Serbia, of which Kosovo is still officially a province) -- even though it is the site of the huge Camp Bondsteel built in 1999 and maintained ever since by the KBR corporation (formerly known as Kellogg Brown & Root), a subsidiary of the Halliburton Corporation of Houston.

The report similarly omits bases in Afghanistan, Iraq (106 garrisons as of May 2005), Israel, Kyrgyzstan, Qatar, and Uzbekistan, even though the U.S. military has established colossal base structures in the Persian Gulf and Central Asian areas since 9/11. By way of excuse, a note in the preface says that "facilities provided by other nations at foreign locations" are not included, although this is not strictly true. The report does include twenty sites in Turkey, all owned by the Turkish government and used jointly with the Americans. The Pentagon continues to omit from its accounts most of the $5 billion worth of military and espionage installations in Britain, which have long been conveniently disguised as Royal Air Force bases. If there were an honest count, the actual size of our military empire would probably top 1,000 different bases overseas, but no one -- possibly not even the Pentagon -- knows the exact number for sure.

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.p...t=va&aid=12824

Kanada, some years ago I was on holiday in northern Scotland (beautiful land) and trekking through a forest close to the coast happened to come across a chain-link fence topped with barbed wire, walking round to try to get past this I came to signs warning trespassers. This facility was stated as US Coast Guard. (!!???!!)

[hipeter924]

Re: Israel a threat to the region, a threat to the world

First and foremost, we should stop listening to media outlets run by an Israeli agenda and form our own opinions instead of regurgitating the exact same crap we hear from CNN and FOX news. Israel has nukes, so do a lot of other nations. The only way to peace is balance of power. The world leaders should be working towards disarming themselves instead of playing the "my nuke is bigger than yours" game. And we all know who those nations are. Let me give you a hint. Haiti isn't one of them.

I consider any nation with nukes as terrorists.

Then you believe that France, The United Kingdom, India, Pakistan, United States, Russia are all terrorists. What planet are you on again? Also no one wants to give away their nukes and never will.

[Anoush]

Re: Consequences Of Attacking Iran And Why Tehran Is Not Worried

Thanks for all the information KanadaHye, I didn't know all these numbers. The US really takes control of the world, doesn't she? Democratically mind you.

[KanadaHye]

Re: Consequences Of Attacking Iran And Why Tehran Is Not Worried

Dear Eddo and KanadaHye,

The above article is quite scary. Wow the lingo is all propaganda and pushing for war. This guy is saying with belief that Iran wants to control the world (Oh my God what a propaganda)? I don't believe whatsoever that Iran wants to control the world - it's really crazy to even say it.

I'm afraid KanadaHye it's more likely greed on Israel's part than a mere sinister plot to mess with the markets and oil prices by playing on the fear and greed of people.

It is indeed a very scary situation however. I'm also afraid of our Republic that is so near to all of this.

Oh yes, Iran wants to control the world when the Pentagon currently owns or rents over 700 overseas bases in about 130 countries and HAS another 6,000 bases in the United States and its territories. Like you said, it's really crazy to even say it.

The worldwide total of U.S. military personnel in 2005, including those based domestically, was 1,840,062 supported by an additional 473,306 Defense Department civil service employees and 203,328 local hires. Its overseas bases, according to the Pentagon, contained 32,327 barracks, hangars, hospitals, and other buildings, which it owns, and 16,527 more that it leased. The size of these holdings was recorded in the inventory as covering 687,347 acres overseas and 29,819,492 acres worldwide, making the Pentagon easily one of the world's largest landlords.

These numbers, although staggeringly big, do not begin to cover all the actual bases we occupy globally. The 2005 Base Structure Report fails, for instance, to mention any garrisons in Kosovo (or Serbia, of which Kosovo is still officially a province) -- even though it is the site of the huge Camp Bondsteel built in 1999 and maintained ever since by the KBR corporation (formerly known as Kellogg Brown & Root), a subsidiary of the Halliburton Corporation of Houston.

The report similarly omits bases in Afghanistan, Iraq (106 garrisons as of May 2005), Israel, Kyrgyzstan, Qatar, and Uzbekistan, even though the U.S. military has established colossal base structures in the Persian Gulf and Central Asian areas since 9/11. By way of excuse, a note in the preface says that "facilities provided by other nations at foreign locations" are not included, although this is not strictly true. The report does include twenty sites in Turkey, all owned by the Turkish government and used jointly with the Americans. The Pentagon continues to omit from its accounts most of the $5 billion worth of military and espionage installations in Britain, which have long been conveniently disguised as Royal Air Force bases. If there were an honest count, the actual size of our military empire would probably top 1,000 different bases overseas, but no one -- possibly not even the Pentagon -- knows the exact number for sure.

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.p...t=va&aid=12824

[Anoush]

Re: Consequences Of Attacking Iran And Why Tehran Is Not Worried

Dear Eddo and KanadaHye,

The above article is quite scary. Wow the lingo is all propaganda and pushing for war. This guy is saying with belief that Iran wants to control the world (Oh my God what a propaganda)? I don't believe whatsoever that Iran wants to control the world - it's really crazy to even say it.

I'm afraid KanadaHye it's more likely greed on Israel's part than a mere sinister plot to mess with the markets and oil prices by playing on the fear and greed of people.

It is indeed a very scary situation however. I'm also afraid of our Republic that is so near to all of this.

[KanadaHye]

Re: Israel a threat to the region, a threat to the world

If they are stupid enough to attack without US support then they will get what they deserve which will be a very high price. I personally do not think they will…………at least not until the results of the elections in Iran.

Anoush jan, that article is troublesome but what is really scary is the language in Israel. Already the new PM has declared Jerusalem the undivided capital of Israel and it shall never be Palestinians and that two states of Palestine and Israel cannot live together.

Here is a typical article that has a majority support in Israel. Now this type of mentality is what is scary because it leaves no other choice but perpetual war.

Now that I think about it, Israel doesn't really need US support. The chaos that would erupt from attacking Iran would automatically pull the US military into the battle as they are already operating both east and west of Iran in Afghanistan and Iraq. I really don't see any positive outcomes from Israel's mentality. They are convinced that nothing should stand in their way of a greater Israel. Let's just hope this is all a sinister plot to mess with the markets and oil prices by playing on the fear and greed of people.

[Eddo211]

Re: Iran a threat to the region, a threat to the world

Unfortunately so KanadaHye, but you said a mouthful.

I just read the article that Israelites put it out on April 18 and it is very scary guys, very scary. Nothing stops those Zionists from attacking anyone and everyone that stands even a little bit on their way.

I am referring about this scary article printed above.

http://www.panarmenian.net/news/eng/?nid=30595

If they are stupid enough to attack without US support then they will get what they deserve which will be a very high price. I personally do not think they will…………at least not until the results of the elections in Iran.

Anoush jan, that article is troublesome but what is really scary is the language in Israel. Already the new PM has declared Jerusalem the undivided capital of Israel and it shall never be Palestinians and that two states of Palestine and Israel cannot live together.

Here is a typical article that has a majority support in Israel. Now this type of mentality is what is scary because it leaves no other choice but perpetual war.

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3715939,00.html

Obama the rookie
US president’s disastrous Middle Eastern policy will not stop Iran

Mordechai Kedar
Published:
05.14.09, 12:39 / Israel Opinion


Thirty years ago, at the end of 1978 and beginning of 1979, US President Jimmy Carter’s blind approach and his obsessive concern for human rights everywhere, and particularly in the Shah-ruled Iran, prompted Khomeini’s rise and brought Khomeinism to power. Carter did not permit the Shah to handle the protests against him, that is, to disperse them with gunfire. The result was the ayatollah takeover of Iran and the murder of thousands of Shah Supporters. Everything the world suffered, is suffering, and will suffer because of Iran is the direct result of the short-sightedness of an American president who understood nothing in the ways of the Middle East.

The enduring problem of American politicians is that they view the world via their own cultural lenses and think that “if only we engage in dialogue with the others” they will be “like us,” “just like everyone else,” and “will become nice”; if only we give them jobs and comply with their “just” demands (the right of return, our capital which never had Palestinian significance, unwillingness to recognize our state, etc.) they will go to work in the morning and return in the evening to play with their children and fish.

Obama is currently making the same mistakes Carter did. He naively thinks that through dialogue with the ayatollahs he will achieve what the Europeans have failed to achieve for many years. He refuses to read what many researchers, politicians, and statesmen worldwide write, and refuses to listen to all those concerned by Iran – Arabs, Israelis, and Europeans – who have no doubt that the ayatollahs intend to first take over the Middle East, and later possibly take over the entire world, should they be given the chance.

Only a blind person would not see the manner in which Iran, even before it has turned nuclear, quickly changes the face of the Middle East. Iran’s long arms are already tightly grasping Lebanon, Iraq, and Gaza, and are also decisively and powerfully directed at other states such as Egypt, Morocco, Jordan, Oman, Bahrain, and Saudi Arabia.

Only a deaf person would not hear the cries of distress emerging from the Arab world (irrespective of Israel and its concerns,) as its leaders see the Persians, their historically hated rivals, rattling their sabres en route to paying back the Bedouins of the desert, uncultured barbarians in their view, for ruining, in the seventh century, the Persian nation, which was educated, progressive and modern at the time.

Only a blind person would fail to see the preparations undertaken by Iran’s Shiite leaders en route to taking their revenge on the Sunnis for 1,350 years of oppression, persecution, and assassinations undertaken by the Sunnis against the Shiite opposition any time and any place they could do it.

Israel’s disappearance to make no difference

Obama thinks that if only Israel will be reduced to the size appropriate for it, that is, the 1949 borders (the “Auschwitz borders” in the words of Abba Eban, a peace-loving dove,) the Arab and Muslim world will sit around the bonfire with the Americas and sing. Some members of his team believe that Israel is the source of the problems in the Arab and Islamic world, and that if only peace will prevail between Israel and the Palestinians, the problems of Iraq, Afghanistan, Sudan, Lebanon, the Shiites, the Sunnis, al-Qaeda, and the Islamic Brotherhood will be resolved at once.

I hereby offer Obama and his people very important information: Even if Israel decides to evaporate, disappear, and wipe itself off the map, all the other problems will continue to kill, just as was the case when Israel existed.

Only an American president who decided to engineer the Arab and Islamic world in line with American standards can fall and make others fall into the trap of historical mistakes that Carter and Bush fell into, each in their own time and style. As a result of their errors, thousands of people in the region were massacred, killed, and wounded.

The American president conducts himself vis-à-vis the Arab and Islamic world like a rookie trying to command an armored division. Obama is rushing forwarded on an imaginary horse, and the people of the region can only hope that his terrible mistakes will not cost the lives of additional thousands.

The gravest matter of all is that some Israelis played a significant role in shaping Obama’s mistakes, and the blood of their brethren, other Israelis, will be the price we shall pay for the actions of those who sold Obama their imaginations, along with several foolish ideas that undermined our security and our self-confidence.

Dr. Mordechai Kedar is a lecturer at Bar-Ilan University’s department of Arabic