Happy Birthday Ara Baliozian!

[HayotzAmrotz]

Re: Happy Birthday Ara Baliozian!

Don't even take aim, yo.
I'm not to blame, bro.
You don't have my game, and it shows
cuz you're straight up lame
and you don't have my name, so
we are not the same, no
and, its a crying shame, oh.

I don’t blame you, I blame mainly the system you were either born to or have been growing up. So, while it’s not your fault now it will be in the near future if you don’t do something in order to make yourself even a better Armenian than you think you are now.

Don’t call me lame even if it’s just for the sake of your rhyme. Believe me, kid, you neither know nor want to know, so, don’t go there. Instead just tell me what’s your game, bro?

[Virgil]

Re: Happy Birthday Ara Baliozian!

What's your point Crusader? You post articles endorsing the position that a true armenian is one that has a direct relationship with the country - i.e. living within its borders - and then you wish Mr. Sassounian happy birthday. He is as equally an Armenian demagogue as Mr. Baliozian and he is an Armenian activist within the diaspora.

Mr. Sassounian's endeavors and accomplishments for Armenia outside of the country are further evidence that without the diaspora, Armenia and NKR would be further isolated from the world and in disrepair economically and with regard to their respective infrastructures.

However, as an activist or leader, Mr. Sassounian's true impact is marginal as he has an inability to motivate the masses to 'true' action - e.g. peaceful protest : for example, protests on the street in favor of genocide recognition - in LA, the grassroots organizations cannot get more than a couple thousand on the streets despite approximately 350,000 Armenians in the general population - or drum up meaningful public opinion in mainstream media.

Moreover, he lacks an appreciation of the players on the other side of the field who place obstacles in front of the hai tahd within the American political arena.

As for being a contributor to Armenian periodicals, anyone can write an opinion piece in Armenian and other publications. Woohoo. Soon, someone shall replace him as the flavor of the month.

You insult Armenian diasporans and then salute a voice within it. You are either confused or ignorant. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt but you are still nothing more than a domesticated cow.

Again, you misunderstand the point that is being made, maybe you will never understand, not now, not ever, but going to recap. Oxford is Oxford because there exist individual researching and pushing forward the progress, lifetime by lifetime. Microsoft is Microsoft because the act of creation that lead to Bill Gates birth occured in the United States. And even the possibility of a Bill Gates being born occurs via statistical chance. Out of many Bill Gates that were born, one, decided to drop out of Harvard and pursue the Software revolution, meaning, out of all the intellectual capital of the United States there existed only a handful that capitalized on a idea that eventually lead to economic and technological gains for the United States. Wealth was generated in the United States because there existed driven individuals that capitalized on ideas that lead to the wealth. What does this mean? This leads one to the conclusion that this idea of a "diaspora" and the emphasis on a "diaspora" is a figment of ones imagination, a monster created to mask the short comings of a people. You want to progress, you roll up your sleeves and work your hands to your bones, anything else only is a excuse. I can not stress how wrong this idea of a "diaspora" is, it only robs the national drive and strength of a nation, it tricks the citizens within Armenia to pursue their dreams outside the safety of their nation, eventually, this leads to centrafugal assimilation, anyone else claiming centrafugal assimilation can be "avoided" is just a big fat lier. Understand this absolute and move on, statistical odds are not on the side of the Diaspora, every generation drifts away from the center, but at the same time, they pull more and more people from the center (i.e Armenia) by their example. When you put up "Armenian-American xyz" as a success, Armenians in Armenia ask themselves what is the intrinsic motive to stay in Armenia, when in fact, you have "Armenian-American xyz" claiming to be a "progessive" and "instramental" in the development of the Armenian people, which begs the question, if you were in Armenia right now and you read your statement, what would keep you from staying in Armenia? I have asked myself this and I would not stay, if it was me and I saw that the Diaspora was robbing me of my identity and intrinsic motive, then, no, I would not stay, only a fool would stay given that circumstance, when your nationalistic drive is being hijacked by foreign nationals claiming to be citizens of the nation you reside in, certainly, there is something wrong here.

[Virgil]

Re: Happy Birthday Ara Baliozian!

Du shat dadark es.

A famous Anonymouse quote, "I am going to chemy in here" and just make a few points. You calling Crusader "dadark" is like the teapot calling the kettle black, I would suggest you make sure, again, who you attack and "make an example of". Furthermore, if Crusader is "dadark", what the hell is Ara then? "Metza Mitk"? So, let me get this straight, Ara, with all his rants and insults, living off Canadian welfare, and yapping across the Atlantic about the failures and flaws of his people is a "visionary", but Crusader, defending the fundimental drive of his people, making honest effort to move to Armenia, and defending values that, incidently, are the backbone of the a people is "dadark"? What kind of f'ed logic is this? It is very f'ed logic and I would recommend you keep your illogic to yourself, you are just making yourself look bad, it is getting annoying, all this to defend a man that has spent his entire life picking and disecting the very same values that contributed to his growth as a human being. I can only hope you change your ways and see the light, personally, the xxxx I see in real life and experience on the daily basis pales in comparision to these rants. I can tell you that in 50 years, we are all screwed, but then again, who is listening? What would it take for people to change? A hero? A war? Famine? Death? Disease? Who knows, but what I do know is that, again, max 50 years, if this trend continues that is. The only soldiers and "knights in shining armor" we have remaining is indeed Crusader, godspeed to him and his endeavors.

[crusader1492]

Re: Happy Birthday Ara Baliozian!

There is no hypocrisy or irony here, but only coincidence, the coincidence that beyond your ad hominem attacks there is nothing but dead air.

You did it to Ara. You did it to me.

At every opportunity I gave you to counter intelligently to rebut information that I provided to my premises, you proferred only and reverted immediately to meaningless personal attacks. And, even in insulting someone the same could be done intelligently.

But, you lack the skills to insult someone without them recognizing it. I encourage you to debate with Ara and fellow humans meaningfully; at the very least, perhaps, it shall assist you in improving your presentation.

Du shat dadark es.

[freakyfreaky]

Re: Happy Birthday Ara Baliozian!

There is no hypocrisy or irony here, but only coincidence, the coincidence that beyond your ad hominem attacks there is nothing but dead air.

You did it to Ara. You did it to me.

At every opportunity I gave you to counter intelligently to rebut information that I provided to my premises, you proferred only and reverted immediately to meaningless personal attacks. And, even in insulting someone the same could be done intelligently.

But, you lack the skills to insult someone without them recognizing it. I encourage you to debate with Ara and fellow humans meaningfully; at the very least, perhaps, it shall assist you in improving your presentation.

Du shat dadark es.

[crusader1492]

Re: Happy Birthday Ara Baliozian!

Once again, you are unable to respond to a rebuttal of one of your senseless, knee-jerk posts.

Umm, you are definitely not a buffalo, ox or yak. But, you are certainly full of bullshiat.

...and once again you are a dumbfcuk...your post is not "senseless" and "knee jerk"?...do you see the irony, the hypocrisy?

Anyway, since you are a dumbfcuk, I suggest you let someone do your thinking for you. Preferably someone who is not a mental midget (like Ara B).

[freakyfreaky]

Re: Happy Birthday Ara Baliozian!

Atleast, unlike some of his detractors here, Mr. Sassounian had the respect and common sense to recognize Mr. Baliozian as an Armenian literary figure.

At each step his detractors here prove his point without even putting Ara's proverbial feet to the fire.

[Armenian]

Re: Happy Birthday Ara Baliozian!

An exchange between writers Ara Baliozian and Harut Sassounian.

I have read Mr. Sassounian's work for the past 15-20 years and in my opinion, he is an exemplary Armenian, he is one of the most politically mature and balanced public figures we have in the diaspora as well. Too bad Mr. Sassounian had to waste his time debating a mentally retarded egomaniac within a Turkish website. What an embarrassment...

[freakyfreaky]

Re: Happy Birthday Ara Baliozian!

Once again, you are unable to respond to a rebuttal of one of your senseless, knee-jerk posts.

Umm, you are definitely not a buffalo, ox or yak. But, you are certainly full of bullshiat.

[crusader1492]

Re: Happy Birthday Ara Baliozian!

...you are still nothing more than a domesticated cow.

Are there such things as wild cows?

...you are a not bright.