the matrix

[Anonymouse]

Most of the people that complained missed the complete philosophy.

Re-watch the first and second ones and then the third one, and if you still can't make sense of it, shoot yourself please.

I'm tired of people whining and complaining about how this movie sucked because their limited minds couldn't graps it or follow a simple 3 part xxxxing story.

[LadyFate]

I really didn't understand the first one, I found them ALL depressing, and well.. I slept through the 2nd one, so I'm not going to even waste my time

[Anonymouse]

Originally posted by patlajan There you go thinking you're smarter than everyone else.
Is the part with Buster Douglas junior (the boxer) cursing in the second movie for no reason, the needless exposing of a vigina (digitaly of course), or was it the useless fight scene between neo and the the oracle's protector that you found so deep. Face it, they turned it into a popular ficition movie after they saw the first made some money. But maybe I am missing the deepness. PLASE EXAPLIAIN OH BIG GIANT HEAD!! I'm all ears, please explain it to me. I am begging to find out.

No you clown, the movies were already all made they were just released apart.

I never claimed I'm smarter since I am not the only one who understands the meaning and plot of the film. It is fiction in case you haven't figured that out, not a drama. Now it's not my fault youre brain is unable to comprehend a simple film, but don't call other people 'preaching to be smart' when you're just obtuse and other people can follow a story line and the philosophy.

Apparently the only reason you and those that don't understand the Matrix, watch such films, is for popular action and cheap thrills and other such things, and when once a movie decides to go beyond it and have a deeper meaning to it, you are horrified and it "sucks".

Like I said, if you paid attention to the first and second movies, and the dialogue as well as the philosophy you would see it all makes sense. You were paying attention to the wrong things.

Neo sacrafices himself as does Trinity to save the human race. The machines and humans strike a truce, if Neo can get rid of agent Smith, then the machines would learn to coexist with the humans.

At the end a new version of the matrix is formed, however, in this one people have a choice whether they stay or leave. There are no controls to try and force the people who reject the matrix to stay. In addition, because people can leave if they desire, there is no new "one" because the equation is perfectly balanced.

In Reloaded, the Architect said the problem was choice. Now the problem is solved. Choices were given to people so that they could continue to exist in the matrix, but by now giving them the choice to leave, there is no variable left in the equation.

It was also slick as hell that the oracle messed with smith's mind. made him all arrogant thinking he would win the war alone, so he had everyone just stand and watch.

I think the way Neo won was also cool, he realized in the end, it was inevitable and Smith would take him over, but that would be his downfall, since then the machines, which are directly connected to Neo could activate like a destruct mechanism.

All in all, great movie and if you didnt understand the general gist of it, like I said, shoot yourself.

[jahannam]

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[TJ]

xxxx im sorry for my previous comment. i loved this movie. the only reason i watched is i got in for free but now that i saw it i would have paid 10$ anyday. it really was a cool movie not for the action sequences or anything but because it just had a great idea and played on some really deep things. and after watching it i couldnt help seeing all the parallels to jesus i dont know whether this was because someone had said that on this forum and i read it or if the parallels were really there. Anyway great movie i recommend it to anyone.

[Emil]

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[ckBejug]

hmmm. I think the trilogy did slow down at this the last movie. but then it's the third one so it can't be expected to be as great as the first or even as good as the second.

Maybe it's because i was super tired when i saw it tonight, but I couldn't stop laughing at some parts. it was too cheesy. 'no, not without you!' didn't they steal that line from titanic?? and if my bf (or soulmate or whatever...) cried like that if i died i'd have to come back and smack him, that was the fakest cry ever. maybe he was laughing? anyway...

Although I do agree with all of you who applaud the interesting philosophies found within all three movies. I understood the movies and found them to be quite intriguing/thought provoking. Although that Jesus thing, hmmm. something to think about I guess. Neo might be Jesus, or maybe a miss america contestant ('I want peace on earth....' ) )

As well it was quite a visual mind xxxx. excuse my french. there was a lot of activity, kindof made my head spin. Though the visual asthetics are nothing compared to The Lord Of The Rings (especially the next one Return of the King, the fight scenes in that are going to be even more elaborate than in #2 and who doesn't shudder when gollum comes a-hissin along??!)

I liked the smith-neo fight scene. something about all the rain and the moves (which kindof make me want to take karate or jui jitsu or something so I can kick butt in high heels- or maybe charlies angels made me want that?? lol) and keanu reeves in a long coat. or anyone in a long coat doing the slow-mo thing (think nic cage and john trovolta in face/off, not the most incredible looking men, but put them in a long coat and give them a bit of a hard ass edge and have the wind blowing a little during the slow-mo thing and i'm hooked..... ) Nice!

So the guy who played smith would totally scare me if I saw him in real life I think. Anyway that dude is probably rolling in the dough now. He has a part in 2 major trilogies. In Matrix AND Lord (elfin king- or whatever it's called). What a nice deal.

Does anyone else think Keanu has to be like part machine? the dude is too damn rigid. he needs to relax a little. he's a bit too mechanical. kindof like his hinges need to be greased or something. hehe.

anyway, thats mah 2 cents. sorry if my ideas started jumping around or were all over the place. it's 3am, im tiiired!

[ckBejug]

Re: the matrix

Originally posted by Lagonid Hey people, i just saw the Matrix Revolutions....and i just wanna know, cuz i saw some of you talked about the Matrix in your classes, the philosophical issues behind the Matrix? well i guess for the first one it's pretty obvious, trying to hide the truth...but for the second and third ones, is there anything behind the story?

thx

The message of The Matrix is one man fights "the machine" and beats them because he can do anything. In our modern society where everyone feels that weird sense of ennui and discombobulation pinpointed in the first film, to be told that "It's not just you, you can change it, you can do anything if you believe!!!" would of course make people respond to it. Add to that the action sequences, I mean who didn't replay the helicopter-building BAM! scene once or five time? Thus, the first film is a success.

Then The Matrix Reloaded (which I am convinced might be superior to the original film, upon multiple viewings) comes along with the AMENDED: "You were deluded. We can LET you do whatever you want and defy 'The System', but in the end 'defying the System' is still a PART OF that SAME system." In other words, it tells the audience that it was lying to them the first time. No wonder some people hate it.

The Matrix Revolutions has gotten the worst reception of all. And why not? It says: "When you who chose to defy the System give yourself over to us, you will be doing what is best for all, and we won't have to fight anymore. Of course, don't try to fight us again, or we will annihilate you. We have that power, but we won't exercise it if you don't challenge us." Yikes. As said earlier, in this modern society of very vocal anti-conformism, anti-submissiveness, being told by a film that once preached "freeing your mind" to "bottling it back up again" must seem outrageous and a "traitor to the cause", if you will.

Matrix Lesson over.

[Anonymouse]

Is it any wonder that the mass audiences reacted to the same ways about the Matrix, as did the characters in the movie?

When Neo told Morpheus that it was a lie, Morpheus didn't like it. The audiences response gradually waned with the second and third movies, which really suggests something to me, in how the filmmakers were able to tie this all together.

After all one can very well interpret Revolutions from viewing Reloaded. Did you notice how Smith sort of freaked when he was about to kill Neo and he said, "I've been here before, I'm supposed to say something." That means that this whole cycle, the war, the One, Smith, everything happens, and how The Architect has said there were previous Matrix before this one and on and on. It's part of the existence of the Matrix hence it's a revolution. In the end the architect asks how long the peace will last. If you can remember how humans had a peaceful Matrix but it was not in their nature to like. That shows that again they've been there before. Also the Oracle says they'll see Neo (or "the One") again someday, again alluding to the fact that it's a never-ending cycle. After watching this movie go back and review the scene with the architect in Reloaded and you'll find everything he tells Neo is truth, it was just cryptic at the time because we didn't see how it unfolded.

[patlajan]

Apart from profoundly boring and farfetched "philosophies" and methods on pushing action figures and video games, does anyone remember what a matrix is, mathematicly speaking? Just curious.