What/who made GOD?

[Tramanian]

Originally posted by NighT HawK hmmmmmm...

Does anyone think of giving a credit to MOTHER NATURE at all ?

Who or what created mother nature?

[Anonymouse]

Originally posted by Shahumyan Would you like to explain what human nature is???

The fact is you simply babble out the bourgeoise analysis that is fed to you.

Bourgeoise analysis claims humans are naturally "individual" beings and that we thrive on being individual....would you like to explain why early stonemen worked together and not individually when living and working?

They say we are naturally greedy...but then seem to forget that the whole system of capitalism means you have to be greedy or live at a great disadvantage

They say we simply look out for ourselves, hoow many times do i have to use the example of people risking their lives to save others theyve never met before?

Simple slogans and insults wont get you anywhere....

Only the invididual can mourn, laff, smile, feel pain, feel spiritual transcendence, complete paintings, and invent ( rather discover ) new things. All contributions, indeed the pillar of history is the individual, not the masses. To accept the creed of Marxism, would mean we would have to overlook this. Eventually Marxism itself owes itself to an individual, Marx. Stonemen, or not, eventually one of them had to come up with the idea of the wheel.

You don't have to like it. In fact the whole Bolsehvik Revolution wouldn't have succeeded if it wasn't for Jewish bankers in Wall Street, so even your precious "revolution" was financed by Jewish capitalists from the start.

[sSsflamesSs]

Originally posted by Shahumyan Would you like to explain what human nature is???

The fact is you simply babble out the bourgeoise analysis that is fed to you.

Bourgeoise analysis claims humans are naturally "individual" beings and that we thrive on being individual....would you like to explain why early stonemen worked together and not individually when living and working?

They say we are naturally greedy...but then seem to forget that the whole system of capitalism means you have to be greedy or live at a great disadvantage

They say we simply look out for ourselves, hoow many times do i have to use the example of people risking their lives to save others theyve never met before?

Simple slogans and insults wont get you anywhere....

If you use the word "bourgeoise" one more time, I will have to tweeze off every single strand of hair from you, one by one. Oh, and I'll be sure to take my time.

[Anonymouse]

God damn human nature. Why must there always be people who do good works? Why are there people who care for other people? God damn human nature. Why can't we always live in a state of dystopia? Even if dsytopia doesn't exist, doesn't mean we can't try.

[Shahumyan]

haha, the fact that anon thinks the bolshevik revolution was fuunded by jewish bankers is hilarious, you know who came up with that statement? Hitler

Are you a closet Nazi or something? maybe coz your deprived of everything except your computer and forums you find excitement in going to nazi sites and wanking over pictures of Hitler. your a complete mess.

Money was gained by ROBBING banks, such as the Armenian Kamo in Tiblissi, not donations from bankers.....Maybe you also think that the jews are trying to rule the world, and that eastern europeans and "untermenschen"?

[Anonymouse]

Originally posted by Shahumyan haha, the fact that anon thinks the bolshevik revolution was fuunded by jewish bankers is hilarious, you know who came up with that statement? Hitler

Are you a closet Nazi or something? maybe coz your deprived of everything except your computer and forums you find excitement in going to nazi sites and wanking over pictures of Hitler. your a complete mess.

Money was gained by ROBBING banks, such as the Armenian Kamo in Tiblissi, not donations from bankers.....Maybe you also think that the jews are trying to rule the world, and that eastern europeans and "untermenschen"?

Why the gross grammatical errors when you get a crack in your edifice of thought? Hey, it's common knowledge that Jews had a vested interested in the revolution since they hated the Czar, thus you even had revolutionary groups such as the Jewish Bund.

Lenin, Trotsky, all "Jews" Mr. Shahumyan. Jacob Schiff of the Kuhn, Loeb, and Co., was one of the major financiers, as well as Armand Hammer.

[Shahumyan]

grammatical errors tit for tat...

as for the argument, the jewish members of the rulin class would always side with the czar against workers power, they would never allow workers to come to power.

as for jewish members, did you not know that eastern europe had a large jewish population? and that ethnic minorities often are first for social change when they are being most severly oppressed by the current order for their race as well as class...hence it is obvious that the bolshevik movement would attract some jewish sections...

As for the Jewish bund...so what? Lenin actually didnt get on with them in anycase....

Im still waiting for answer on human nature, id appreciate if you kep your outflows of "wit" to yourself in your answer

[Tramanian]

Originally posted by Shahumyan

Im still waiting for answer on human nature, id appreciate if you kep your outflows of "wit" to yourself in your answer

I'll tackle that later, just let me get over my hangover

[Anonymouse]

Originally posted by Shahumyan grammatical errors tit for tat...

as for the argument, the jewish members of the rulin class would always side with the czar against workers power, they would never allow workers to come to power.

as for jewish members, did you not know that eastern europe had a large jewish population? and that ethnic minorities often are first for social change when they are being most severly oppressed by the current order for their race as well as class...hence it is obvious that the bolshevik movement would attract some jewish sections...

As for the Jewish bund...so what? Lenin actually didnt get on with them in anycase....

Im still waiting for answer on human nature, id appreciate if you kep your outflows of "wit" to yourself in your answer

"Human nature" is a stupid phrase that is entirely too much on the forefront of this discussion.

When you try to propose an ism, which states that by abolishing all property we will have utopia, then there is a problem since it is this 'human nature' that it cannot change, since humans are possessive territorial creatures, they are animals, yet they have needs, and wants, and possessions.

Trying to get a Marxist to understand this, is like trying to tell a blind person to check out the hot chick.

[Shahumyan]

I did actually say cut the wit out, however it seems as you cannot explain a point, you must wow the crowd crappy one liners...

you seem to think you are correct on your analysis of human nature, please bring evidence and use it before making conclusions...

Marxists dont try to make a utopia, simply changing hands of the means of production, and democratically controlling wealth, not the dictatorship of the bourgeoise