What/who made GOD?

[Shahumyan]

Originally posted by Anonymouse It's a shame that you have to result to petty insults and earlier you didn't know what I was talking about.

Are you not familiar with the Communist Manifesto? In there Marx claims that our ideas and thinking is shaped and reflecting our class, thus our class determines how we think. I addressed the whole epistemological error of Marx pertaining to that, and you had not one ounce to say.

Typical.

im still waiting for explaination of this great "error"

Tram,
i find your comments funny. You say you wont discuss, because the only language i speak of is violence, i think this shows how bankrupt your ideas are. Please explain your ideas so then i can deal with them

As for violence, its strange you say that. Please see every country in Latin America and how its chosen leaders have been killed, or overthrown by American "Democracy" see from Allende to todays Hugo Chavez.

[Anonymouse]

Originally posted by Shahumyan im still waiting for explaination of this great "error"

Tram,
i find your comments funny. You say you wont discuss, because the only language i speak of is violence, i think this shows how bankrupt your ideas are. Please explain your ideas so then i can deal with them

As for violence, its strange you say that. Please see every country in Latin America and how its chosen leaders have been killed, or overthrown by American "Democracy" see from Allende to todays Hugo Chavez.

I explained fully in my post the error Marx committs, by assuming that our ideas are shaped by our thinking, but here you go off stating I didn't explain it. Maybe you haven't read the Communist Manifesto.

[Shahumyan]

maybe instead of coming out with slogans you should show where your "explaination" is, so i can look at it

[Tramanian]

Originally posted by Shahumyan im still waiting for explaination of this great "error"

Tram,
i find your comments funny. You say you wont discuss, because the only language i speak of is violence, i think this shows how bankrupt your ideas are. Please explain your ideas so then i can deal with them

As for violence, its strange you say that. Please see every country in Latin America and how its chosen leaders have been killed, or overthrown by American "Democracy" see from Allende to todays Hugo Chavez.

What exactly does American democracy have to do with Capitalism? America is no where near being Capitalist, and if you bothered to read the Wealth of Nations, or any Von Mises or Rand instead of Marx you'd know this.

Here's my ideas for politics,

Government summed up:
"Mind your own business. Keep your hands to yourself." -PJ O'Rourke:

And a great quote on Marx:

"The whole gospel of Karl Marx can be summed up in a single sentence: Hate the man who is better off than you are. Never under any circumstances admit that his success may be due to his own efforts, to the productive contribution he has made to the whole community. Always attribute his success to the exploitation, the cheating, the more or less open robbery of others. Never under any circumstances admit that your own failure may be owing to your own weakness, or that the failure of anyone else may be due to his own defects – his laziness, incompetence, improvidence, or stupidity." – Henry Hazlitt

And one of my favorites by Marx:
"If you can cut the people off from their history, then they can be easily persuaded." – Karl Marx

[Anonymouse]

Lucid post Tramanian. Indeed to quote O' Rourke, from, "Parliament of xxxxxs: A Lone Humorist Attempts to Explain the Entire U.S. Government" by P. J. O'Rourke"

"Authority has always attracted the lowest elements in the human race. All through history mankind has been bullied by scum. Those who lord it over their fellows and toss commands in every direction and would boss the grass in the meadow about which way to bend in the wind are the most depraved kind of prostitutes. They will submit to any indignity, perform any vile act, do anything to achieve power. The worst off-sloughings of the planet are the ingredients of sovereignty. Every government is a parliament of xxxxxs. The trouble is, in a democracy the xxxxxs are us. "

[Shahumyan]

nice and objective, using hand picked quotes to justify the whole scientific basis of an ideology

"Capitalism is wank" - Me

according to you thats valid argument to why capitalism doesnt work