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  • #101
    Re: Richard Dawkins interview with Bill O'Reilly

    Many more minds were closed or silenced by religious upbringing and some of us actually do real research on the graduate and post graduate levels so the only thing we do in a armchair is read. Religion has done more to hold back humanity then you apearently comprehend.
    Hayastan or Bust.

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    • #102
      Re: Richard Dawkins interview with Bill O'Reilly

      Originally posted by KanadaHye View Post
      You're right. Except that many great minds in history had religious upbringings and all that oppose it are armchair scientists arguing on the internet.


      That's just ridiculous.

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      • #103
        Re: Richard Dawkins interview with Bill O'Reilly

        Originally posted by KanadaHye View Post
        Every time I have to enter that country for business, it's like entering the twilight zone.
        First of all, I'm willing to venture you probably haven't even been to the U.S and you're making your 'business trips' up. Have any proof of your travels?

        Second of all, what do you notice that makes for such a stark contrast between 'normal' Canada and 'twilight zone' America?

        Originally posted by KanadaHye View Post
        You're right. Except that many great minds in history had religious upbringings and all that oppose it are armchair scientists arguing on the internet.
        List them. Most scientists that had religious upbringings would later go on to denounce those religions.(The important scientists anyway).
        Last edited by Muhaha; 12-02-2009, 12:05 AM.

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        • #104
          Re: Richard Dawkins interview with Bill O'Reilly

          Originally posted by KanadaHye View Post
          They aren't going to pay off the debt by letting people act like 45 yr old children anymore. With freedom comes responsibility... anybody can run up a credit card then declare bankruptcy. It doesn't take much skill to do that.
          Which explains why China, Singapore, UAE and other state capitalist countries are getting richer, and the US had an economic collapse.

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          • #105
            Re: Richard Dawkins interview with Bill O'Reilly

            Originally posted by Muhaha View Post
            First of all, I'm willing to venture you probably haven't even been to the U.S and you're making your 'business trips' up. Have any proof of your travels?

            Second of all, what do you notice that makes for such a stark contrast between 'normal' Canada and 'twilight zone' America?
            You want receipts?

            It's hard to explain, there is this strange way that people act. Maybe too much emphasis on individualism. I know people are way too influenced by the media since everyone is usually talking about what they saw on TV or heard on the radio. Also, since I'm always dealing with the border/customs, etc.... I get the full effect of "national security". Everybody that isn't American is considered a terrorist. The Canadian customs do the same thing.... for a world that's becoming more and more globalized, it's strange that the walls are getting higher instead of being knocked down.
            "Nobody can give you freedom. Nobody can give you equality or justice or anything. If you're a man, you take it." ~Malcolm X

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            • #106
              Re: Richard Dawkins interview with Bill O'Reilly

              "for a world that's becoming more and more globalized, it's strange that the walls are getting higher instead of being knocked down."

              That is a interesting statement. Although i disagree with most of your takes on religion and science i find some of your statements insightfull and your humor effective.
              Hayastan or Bust.

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              • #107
                Re: Richard Dawkins interview with Bill O'Reilly

                Originally posted by KanadaHye View Post
                You want receipts?
                That or a Passport scan.

                Originally posted by KanadaHye View Post
                It's hard to explain, there is this strange way that people act. Maybe too much emphasis on individualism. I know people are way too influenced by the media since everyone is usually talking about what they saw on TV or heard on the radio.
                You're describing a stereotypical view of America. Either you've found some sort of magical area where all this is true or you're simply exaggerating/making things up. What city/cities do you visit btw?

                Originally posted by KanadaHye View Post
                Also, since I'm always dealing with the border/customs, etc.... I get the full effect of "national security". Everybody that isn't American is considered a terrorist. The Canadian customs do the same thing....
                Yep, this is true, but I'd hardly consider this an American or Canadian phenomenon, everybody is protective of what their used to and hostile to anything else. The Swiss banned minarets on mosques, does that make Switzerland a twilight zone? There's a certain element within every country that's utterly and completely opposed to letting outsiders in, and with our new and extremely liberal President, that element is growing.

                Originally posted by KanadaHye View Post
                for a world that's becoming more and more globalized, it's strange that the walls are getting higher instead of being knocked down.
                Yep, that is interesting. Maybe it's because everybody thinks Globalization is some sort of evil plan by the "Elite" so they're trying to fight it off?

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                • #108
                  Re: Richard Dawkins interview with Bill O'Reilly

                  Originally posted by Muhaha View Post
                  You're describing a stereotypical view of America. Either you've found some sort of magical area where all this is true or you're simply exaggerating/making things up. What city/cities do you visit btw?
                  Stereotypes are made for a reason. Come on, Bush was voted in for a second term!!! Obviously this doesn't apply to everyone, but a majority of people I deal with. Janesville (Wisconsin), Atlanta (Georgia), Akron (Ohio), Birmingham (Alabama)... also been to Texas (Houston and Brownsville... don't ask) and Kentucky and Tennessee. They don't put industry in the greatest of places, lol. You have to admit there is a lot of focus on individuality... it makes the political system more powerful.

                  Originally posted by Muhaha View Post
                  Yep, this is true, but I'd hardly consider this an American or Canadian phenomenon, everybody is protective of what their used to and hostile to anything else. The Swiss banned minarets on mosques, does that make Switzerland a twilight zone? There's a certain element within every country that's utterly and completely opposed to letting outsiders in, and with our new and extremely liberal President, that element is growing.
                  Well... take a look into the role that Swiss banks played during the rule of Nazi Germany and WWII. They were more like a monetary black hole than a twilight zone.


                  Originally posted by Muhaha View Post
                  Yep, that is interesting. Maybe it's because everybody thinks Globalization is some sort of evil plan by the "Elite" so they're trying to fight it off?
                  You think everyone is that smart?
                  "Nobody can give you freedom. Nobody can give you equality or justice or anything. If you're a man, you take it." ~Malcolm X

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                  • #109
                    Re: Richard Dawkins interview with Bill O'Reilly

                    Originally posted by KanadaHye View Post
                    Stereotypes are made for a reason. Come on, Bush was voted in for a second term!!! Obviously this doesn't apply to everyone, but a majority of people I deal with. Janesville (Wisconsin), Atlanta (Georgia), Akron (Ohio), Birmingham (Alabama)... also been to Texas (Houston and Brownsville... don't ask) and Kentucky and Tennessee. They don't put industry in the greatest of places, lol. You have to admit there is a lot of focus on individuality... it makes the political system more powerful.
                    Bush being voted in for a second term is a good point and so is the extreme focus on individuality but I still think you're exagarating what you've personally witnessed.

                    Originally posted by KanadaHye View Post
                    Well... take a look into the role that Swiss banks played during the rule of Nazi Germany and WWII. They were more like a monetary black hole than a twilight zone.
                    Your ability to casually talk about things that have nothing to do with the subject at hand and make it look like your making a clear and concise point is uncanny. I have violent orgasms every time you do this.

                    Originally posted by KanadaHye View Post
                    You think everyone is that smart?
                    My point was quite the opposite. I'm saying stupid people think Globalization is some sort of evil tool and they're trying to stop it like the plague.

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                    • #110
                      Re: Richard Dawkins interview with Bill O'Reilly

                      Originally posted by Muhaha View Post
                      Bush being voted in for a second term is a good point and so is the extreme focus on individuality but I still think you're exagarating what you've personally witnessed.
                      Nah, I've rejected it being imposed on myself which is why I'm more aware of its influence


                      Originally posted by Muhaha View Post
                      Your ability to casually talk about things that have nothing to do with the subject at hand and make it look like your making a clear and concise point is uncanny. I have violent orgasms every time you do this.
                      The world is more connected to the events of the past and present than most people seem to realize. You brought us the Swiss, I didn't.


                      Originally posted by Muhaha View Post
                      My point was quite the opposite. I'm saying stupid people think Globalization is some sort of evil tool and they're trying to stop it like the plague.
                      Hitler was supposedly trying to take over Europe. Globalization and the politicians and businessmen involved are taking over the world, yet nobody is screaming bloody murder.

                      But hey, is there or isn't there a god... that is the question
                      "Nobody can give you freedom. Nobody can give you equality or justice or anything. If you're a man, you take it." ~Malcolm X

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