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  • Re: Atheism and being Armenian

    my ancestry is Armenian, and i am identified as armenian, yet i am very indifferent about the concept of god, it is a very vauge idea, but the idea of a christian god, its a joke to me, it is projecting human personalities actions culture and society to a higher power. its a way to justify our stupidity, saying god/s are like this. I acknowledge the nihilistic reality of things, but i play along with life becouse i got nothing better to do.
    so of i am labeled not armenian for not beliveing in a god? if so then I will take that label and go on with my life. it dosnt change who i am.

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      I've said this before and will say again ... Armenians existed loooooong before the Christian God came to be and hopefully we'll continue to exist long after.
      this post = teh win.

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        Originally posted by Odysseus View Post
        my ancestry is Armenian, and i am identified as armenian, yet i am very indifferent about the concept of god, it is a very vauge idea, but the idea of a christian god, its a joke to me, it is projecting human personalities actions culture and society to a higher power. its a way to justify our stupidity, saying god/s are like this. I acknowledge the nihilistic reality of things, but i play along with life becouse i got nothing better to do.
        so of i am labeled not armenian for not beliveing in a god? if so then I will take that label and go on with my life. it dosnt change who i am.
        Ahh I know.. it's not very classy, intelligent, chic or intellectual to identify ourselves as Christian or to believe in God.. there is also the risk of being ridiculed by 'intellectuals'...
        Actually, atheism is obsolete now so let's wait a bit for the next 'trend' to identify ourselves with.
        Last edited by Lucin; 06-05-2011, 11:30 PM.

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          Originally posted by Lucin View Post
          Ahh I know.. it's not very classy, intelligent, chic or intellectual to identify ourselves as Christian or to believe in God.. there is also the risk of being ridiculed by 'intellectuals'...
          Actually, atheism is obsolete now so let's wait a bit for the next 'trend' to identify ourselves with.
          are u saying i am trying to be trendy? i could care less about trends. i put up with teasing and xxxx by Armenians as a kid becouse i never belived in god. only time i started to want to belive in one was around late highschool when my life was falling apart i thought maybe that can help but even then inside i couldnt belive it. its not about a trend, if anything Christianity is a trend. But then again arent armenians OBSESSED with what is in and trendy? i see it in glendale every day.

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            Originally posted by Odysseus
            i am very indifferent about the concept
            most people are indifferent about concepts.

            Originally posted by Odysseus
            the nihilistic reality of things
            profound wording but i don't understand how this fits with the marcus aurelius quote.
            or maybe a subtle illustration of your "nihilism".
            sounding "paradoxical".
            interesting.
            very interesting.

            Originally posted by Odysseus
            if anything Christianity is a trend
            possibly but, you have to admit, a lasting one, defining a two thousand year era... (however people try to label it)


            Originally posted by Odysseus
            armenians OBSESSED with what is in and trendy
            nowadays, yes. historically speaking, no.
            one can take the example of latinization in cilicia, which didn't work that well.

            PS: nice avatar and refreshing contribution. be sure to stay around. you are part of the exhibition (some background here)

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              Originally posted by Odysseus View Post
              are u saying i am trying to be trendy? i could care less about trends. i put up with teasing and xxxx by Armenians as a kid becouse i never belived in god. only time i started to want to belive in one was around late highschool when my life was falling apart i thought maybe that can help but even then inside i couldnt belive it. its not about a trend, if anything Christianity is a trend. But then again arent armenians OBSESSED with what is in and trendy? i see it in glendale every day.
              It shakes people's world's a little less to think that you're being "trendy" or that this "trend" is over (in fact, people are becoming more and more non-religious) than to think that your lack of belief is defensible.
              [COLOR=#4b0082][B][SIZE=4][FONT=trebuchet ms]“If you think you can, or you can’t, you’re right.”
              -Henry Ford[/FONT][/SIZE][/B][/COLOR]

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                Originally posted by Siggie View Post
                It shakes people's world's a little less to think that you're being "trendy" or that this "trend" is over (in fact, people are becoming more and more non-religious) than to think that your lack of belief is defensible.


                "1.1 billion people (16% of the world population) are considered non-religious. Some evidence suggests that the the fastest growing religious status is actually "no religion" in the United States."

                When referring to people, I find that American citizens are rather inward looking and the views around them which are actually promoted by the media shapes their own beliefs and behaviour.
                Last edited by KanadaHye; 06-06-2011, 07:05 AM.
                "Nobody can give you freedom. Nobody can give you equality or justice or anything. If you're a man, you take it." ~Malcolm X

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                  Originally posted by KanadaHye View Post
                  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irreligion

                  "1.1 billion people (16% of the world population) are considered non-religious. Some evidence suggests that the the fastest growing religious status is actually "no religion" in the United States."

                  When referring to people, I find that American citizens are rather inward looking and the views around them which are actually promoted by the media shapes their own beliefs and behaviour.
                  The rest of the world is already faaaaaaaaaaar less religious than the US. There's a floor effect (is that the term for the reverse of a ceiling effect?).
                  [COLOR=#4b0082][B][SIZE=4][FONT=trebuchet ms]“If you think you can, or you can’t, you’re right.”
                  -Henry Ford[/FONT][/SIZE][/B][/COLOR]

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                    Originally posted by Siggie View Post
                    The rest of the world is already faaaaaaaaaaar less religious than the US. There's a floor effect (is that the term for the reverse of a ceiling effect?).
                    Americans relate rejecting religion with being "free" but the "control" is due to being a country that is constantly at war. Religion is constantly used to keep people under "control". When order and control can be reinstated by a systematic approach, "religion" will no longer be needed.
                    "Nobody can give you freedom. Nobody can give you equality or justice or anything. If you're a man, you take it." ~Malcolm X

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                      Originally posted by Siggie View Post
                      It shakes people's world's a little less to think that you're being "trendy" or that this "trend" is over (in fact, people are becoming more and more non-religious) than to think that your lack of belief is defensible.
                      it is perfectly defensible for a blind person to claim he/she does not believe in, say, the sun.
                      does such a claim "shake" the non-blind's world as a result?
                      i would say only the blind who believe/are willing to believe yet are not too sure might be shaken.
                      those who see will only be saddened, sometimes angered.
                      but there is no point in being angry.

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