Atheism and being Armenian

[Odysseus]

Re: Atheism and being Armenian

my ancestry is Armenian, and i am identified as armenian, yet i am very indifferent about the concept of god, it is a very vauge idea, but the idea of a christian god, its a joke to me, it is projecting human personalities actions culture and society to a higher power. its a way to justify our stupidity, saying god/s are like this. I acknowledge the nihilistic reality of things, but i play along with life becouse i got nothing better to do.
so of i am labeled not armenian for not beliveing in a god? if so then I will take that label and go on with my life. it dosnt change who i am.

[Sip]

Re: Atheism and being Armenian

I've said this before and will say again ... Armenians existed loooooong before the Christian God came to be and hopefully we'll continue to exist long after.

[Lucin]

Re: Atheism and being Armenian

my ancestry is Armenian, and i am identified as armenian, yet i am very indifferent about the concept of god, it is a very vauge idea, but the idea of a christian god, its a joke to me, it is projecting human personalities actions culture and society to a higher power. its a way to justify our stupidity, saying god/s are like this. I acknowledge the nihilistic reality of things, but i play along with life becouse i got nothing better to do.
so of i am labeled not armenian for not beliveing in a god? if so then I will take that label and go on with my life. it dosnt change who i am.

Ahh I know.. it's not very classy, intelligent, chic or intellectual to identify ourselves as Christian or to believe in God.. there is also the risk of being ridiculed by 'intellectuals'...
Actually, atheism is obsolete now so let's wait a bit for the next 'trend' to identify ourselves with.

[Odysseus]

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Ahh I know.. it's not very classy, intelligent, chic or intellectual to identify ourselves as Christian or to believe in God.. there is also the risk of being ridiculed by 'intellectuals'...
Actually, atheism is obsolete now so let's wait a bit for the next 'trend' to identify ourselves with.

are u saying i am trying to be trendy? i could care less about trends. i put up with teasing and xxxx by Armenians as a kid becouse i never belived in god. only time i started to want to belive in one was around late highschool when my life was falling apart i thought maybe that can help but even then inside i couldnt belive it. its not about a trend, if anything Christianity is a trend. But then again arent armenians OBSESSED with what is in and trendy? i see it in glendale every day.

[gkv]

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i am very indifferent about the concept

most people are indifferent about concepts.

the nihilistic reality of things

profound wording but i don't understand how this fits with the marcus aurelius quote.
or maybe a subtle illustration of your "nihilism".
sounding "paradoxical".
interesting.
very interesting.

if anything Christianity is a trend

possibly but, you have to admit, a lasting one, defining a two thousand year era... (however people try to label it)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_Era

armenians OBSESSED with what is in and trendy

nowadays, yes. historically speaking, no.
one can take the example of latinization in cilicia, which didn't work that well.

PS: nice avatar and refreshing contribution. be sure to stay around. you are part of the exhibition (some background here)

[Siggie]

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are u saying i am trying to be trendy? i could care less about trends. i put up with teasing and xxxx by Armenians as a kid becouse i never belived in god. only time i started to want to belive in one was around late highschool when my life was falling apart i thought maybe that can help but even then inside i couldnt belive it. its not about a trend, if anything Christianity is a trend. But then again arent armenians OBSESSED with what is in and trendy? i see it in glendale every day.

It shakes people's world's a little less to think that you're being "trendy" or that this "trend" is over (in fact, people are becoming more and more non-religious) than to think that your lack of belief is defensible.

[KanadaHye]

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It shakes people's world's a little less to think that you're being "trendy" or that this "trend" is over (in fact, people are becoming more and more non-religious) than to think that your lack of belief is defensible.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irreligion

"1.1 billion people (16% of the world population) are considered non-religious. Some evidence suggests that the the fastest growing religious status is actually "no religion" in the United States."

When referring to people, I find that American citizens are rather inward looking and the views around them which are actually promoted by the media shapes their own beliefs and behaviour.

[Siggie]

Re: Atheism and being Armenian

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irreligion

"1.1 billion people (16% of the world population) are considered non-religious. Some evidence suggests that the the fastest growing religious status is actually "no religion" in the United States."

When referring to people, I find that American citizens are rather inward looking and the views around them which are actually promoted by the media shapes their own beliefs and behaviour.

The rest of the world is already faaaaaaaaaaar less religious than the US. There's a floor effect (is that the term for the reverse of a ceiling effect?).

[KanadaHye]

Re: Atheism and being Armenian

The rest of the world is already faaaaaaaaaaar less religious than the US. There's a floor effect (is that the term for the reverse of a ceiling effect?).

Americans relate rejecting religion with being "free" but the "control" is due to being a country that is constantly at war. Religion is constantly used to keep people under "control". When order and control can be reinstated by a systematic approach, "religion" will no longer be needed.

[gkv]

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It shakes people's world's a little less to think that you're being "trendy" or that this "trend" is over (in fact, people are becoming more and more non-religious) than to think that your lack of belief is defensible.

it is perfectly defensible for a blind person to claim he/she does not believe in, say, the sun.
does such a claim "shake" the non-blind's world as a result?
i would say only the blind who believe/are willing to believe yet are not too sure might be shaken.
those who see will only be saddened, sometimes angered.
but there is no point in being angry.