Atheism and being Armenian

[Siggie]

Re: Atheism and being Armenian

You don't seem to be a part of it since you constantly side with the trolls.

Awesome, thanks ejecting me from the ethnicity on behalf of all Armenians. Guess I'll resign here and siktir.

[Haykakan]

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"You know, for all your Christian ideals...I have still treated you with more respect than you've shown me. "
This is quite common among the dim witted reactionary religious types and i am sad to see Kanadahye being this way.

[Siggie]

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"You know, for all your Christian ideals...I have still treated you with more respect than you've shown me. "
This is quite common among the dim witted reactionary religious types and i am sad to see Kanadahye being this way.

I agree it's disappointingly common, but I wouldn't rush to label Kanada as such.

[bell-the-cat]

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This is quite common among the dim witted reactionary religious types and i am sad to see Kanadahye being this way.

The "Islam is a religion of peace and tolerance, and I'll kill you if you dare to go around saying otherwise" types? I remember, ages ago, I did compare Kanadahye to such persons, the ones that live in north America or western Europe, gaining all the material advantages they can from those societies, while secretly holding them in contempt.

[KanadaHye]

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The "Islam is a religion of peace and tolerance, and I'll kill you if you dare to go around saying otherwise" types? I remember, ages ago, I did compare Kanadahye to such persons, the ones that live in north America or western Europe, gaining all the material advantages they can from those societies, while secretly holding them in contempt.

Material advantages my ass. Our ancestors owned small kingdoms before western dim witted royals decided to invade our motherland.

[yerazhishda]

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Seeing two people vow to be king and queen as they prepare to take on the world isn't a facade. Gathering family and friends for baptism in celebration of their new born isn't a facade. Having a place for the community to gather and mourn for the loss of one of its members isn't a facade. Armenians are secular in a sense but many of these traditions are part of our culture and unites the community. If there are two things Armenians love, it's feasting and celebration. How do you propose replacing these traditions that are intricate parts of society? What do you mean by more humanist? Armenian culture is as humane as humanity can get.

I agree.

You can change Armenian culture to be more humanist, sort of in the same vein of many Western and Northern European cultures, but you bring all the degradation that comes along with it.

Plus, even if you aren't necessarily 'religious' in the classical sense of the term, there's something that seems more respectful of the dead in the Hokehankisd service or the singing of "Ashkharh Amenayn" than a bunch of people reading self-centered eulogies about the deceased person.

[yerazhishda]

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People can gather out of non-religious traditions to. You don't need to baptize to celebrate the birth of a child... Baby showers? Birthdays? You can mourn someone without involvement of the church. There are lots of secular funerals and weddings. You can do all of this without a prayer. These are things people celebrate universally. And mourning death is universal as well.

What is your picture of an ideal Armenia? One in which the AAC would be abolished entirely? An Armenia without Christianity?

Side question: Is atheism originally a Western idea, and if so, should this be a part of Armenian culture which is decidedly Oriental?

[artour]

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My daughter finished Phd philosophy in St.Andrews university Scotland this year. She is real beliver. Obviously, you are to young, but all will come later.

[yerazhishda]

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My daughter finished Phd philosophy in St.Andrews university Scotland this year. She is real beliver. Obviously, you are to young, but all will come later.

Are you responding to the original poster?

[KanadaHye]

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I agree.

You can change Armenian culture to be more humanist, sort of in the same vein of many Western and Northern European cultures, but you bring all the degradation that comes along with it.

Plus, even if you aren't necessarily 'religious' in the classical sense of the term, there's something that seems more respectful of the dead in the Hokehankisd service or the singing of "Ashkharh Amenayn" than a bunch of people reading self-centered eulogies about the deceased person.

Movies like "Grown Ups" puts nonsensical ideas in people's heads. I know lots of Armenians aren't that attached to the community in North America, but even odars have more respect for certain traditional things. That's the real shame. The funny part is when odars do come to Armenian events, they love the culture. It's like a secret society to them.