Why are atheists disliked in America?

[Sip]

Re: Why are atheists disliked in America?

The Greeks were more advanced in what we refer to as Western medicine.

This needs more explanation. On what do you base this statement? How were they more advanced? Did they know more? Did they do more? What?

... In the same way people drive carelessly because they are insured, a lot of people live carelessly because they believe any illness can be cured....

What? You drive carelessly because you are insured? I'd like to see you try to get insurance if you are a bad driver ... they will make you pay up the rear AND a lot of times they won't even insure you. If nothing else, fear of rising insurance rates makes people BETTER drivers

But back to the point that we are irresponsible since we think medicine can cure ... maybe but that doesn't change the fact that modern medicine can prevent and cure FAAAR more things than the ancients could. Lets not change the topic from one of knowledge and ability to one of choices. So far you have been saying the ancients were more knowledgeable but haven't in any way backed it up. What you have said, and I do agree, in that we tend to make poor decisions even when we have better knowledge (that's different).

[KanadaHye]

Re: Why are atheists disliked in America?

Let me just put a slight reality check in play here .. before the 1600s we didn't even know what a "cell" was ... it wasn't way until closer to the 19th century that we started to discover there is such a thing that we can call "virus".

You want to talk about how much they knew 2000 years ago? Try just 400 years ago

My argument is that although humanity as a whole has more collective knowledge, the average Joe is rather dumb compared to the general population in the "old world".

[KanadaHye]

Re: Why are atheists disliked in America?

What? You drive carelessly because you are insured? I'd like to see you try to get insurance if you are a bad driver ... they will make you pay up the rear AND a lot of times they won't even insure you. If nothing else, fear of rising insurance rates makes people BETTER drivers

Ahhhhh... but who'd be able to pay cash settlement for a totaled BMW if they weren't insured? I'm sure people would treat their cars like crystal if they knew one accident would put them in the poor house.

[Jinx]

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Man, my video got like no traction.

:P

[KanadaHye]

Re: Why are atheists disliked in America?

Man, my video got like no traction.

:P

Armenians are waiting for the world to crumble so we can pounce :P

[Sip]

Re: Why are atheists disliked in America?

My argument is that although humanity as a whole has more collective knowledge, the average Joe is rather dumb compared to the general population in the "old world".

Once again, what test are you using to make this assessment? There must be some criteria you base this on. What are they? What did the ancients know that the average joe on the street doesn't know? I can list many things for the opposite that the average joe would know but the ancients didn't (globe, gravity, cells, virus, electricity, .. don't make me list more) .. these are all things that an average joe takes for granted these days where the ancients had 0 clue that they even existed.

So once again, what do you base your statement on?

[KanadaHye]

Re: Why are atheists disliked in America?

Once again, what test are you using to make this assessment? There must be some criteria you base this on. What are they? What did the ancients know that the average joe on the street doesn't know? I can list many things for the opposite that the average joe would know but the ancients didn't (globe, gravity, cells, virus, electricity, .. don't make me list more) .. these are all things that an average joe takes for granted these days where the ancients had 0 clue that they even existed.

So once again, what do you base your statement on?

The average Joe knows these things exist but how many people can wire their own house, do the plumbing, diagnose their own symptoms and treat minor medical problems etc.? In Ancient times, the household was expected to handle these things and people knew everything they needed to know to survive.

In Juxtaposition, a person loses his/her job in North America and they are LOST. They don't have the skills/know how to survive without having the money that is needed to acquire food, shelter, clothing, etc.

Generally people nowadays know how to buy fish but haven't been taught how to fish. They are usually groomed to do one job well (and some don't even do that all that well) but without a steady source of income, they can't survive.

[KanadaHye]

Re: Why are atheists disliked in America?

This needs more explanation. On what do you base this statement? How were they more advanced? Did they know more? Did they do more? What?

I meant the Greeks were more advanced in medicine than the Romans, not more advanced than medicine is today.

Ancient Roman medical instruments... guess which one was used for gynecology :P

[Siggie]

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Ack... missed a lot. I'll get caught up when I'm back Friday.

[DHolyGhost]

Re: Why are atheists disliked in America?

This is precisely what the article in the original post described...

You are a very angry person. This is a beautiful way to speak to a lady who only asked that you not engage in personal insults and to try and control your temper.
I'm sure if I had been agreeing with you in the thread, but had asked you to refrain from personal insults anyway (rules?!), you would never have replied with "kiss my @ss!"
Why don't you talk to your god and see what he thinks about your behavior.

You think everyone who disagrees with you is ignorant and that speaks volumes about true ignorance.
I didn't share a stupid pointless exercise with you. I was actually sharing the beginning of a couple different scenarios meant to be illustrative. Something I learned in law school. Forgive me for trying to share my "ignorance."

I usually try to at least defend the other side for future readers than those I'm engaging in discussion, so there's more a balanced view for posterity. Here, I think there's little need for it.
As if what you originally said wasn't laughable already, you counter with, and I'm paraphrasing, "duh, people pray all the time." Who equated prayer with hallucination? When God starts answering you then you're hallucinating.

Hey it’s me again (Yedtarts)

I asked my God, he said you’re (me) doing very well in letting her (you) put her foot in her mouth, keep on the good work son!

Guess what? he sends you his regards, and asked me to give you this message: he said you won’t do well as a lawyer unless you defend only the criminals who scammed innocent people of their life savings and left them homeless not able to feed their kids, because you’re good in fabricating evidences and proofs, you will be given the power of banning the prosecutor just before he want to respond to your defense. And just because you’re a female you should be given an extra power. you would be able to ban even the judge in case you didn’t like what he was saying.

And for the "hallucination" thing, let's try this…

To this one:

"duh, people pray all the time." Who equated prayer with hallucination? When God starts answering you then you're hallucinating.”

This is the masterpiece of ignorance.

So according to you, for thousands of years when people were praying to their God they were doing not so bad, but the minute he started answering to their prayers all of sudden they became hallucinators? Did you think that these people were knocking on a door for thousands of years with no avail, but they've kept on knocking till someone answered and then they were called hallucinators?

What about the Armenian History was it all a hallucination? Do you knows the history how God came to Pagan king Tiridates’ sister and told her about Gregory the Illuminator, that Gregory was still alive in the pit and could cure her brother.

Also:
In the History of Moses Khorenatzi, the first cathedral of St.Echmiadzin was built between 301 and 303. The exact design and place came to St.Gregory in a divine vision: Christ himself descended to the Ararat valley and struck with a golden hammer to indicate the future location of the cathedral. According to you all these were hallucinations.

What about France’s history? Was it all hallucinations?
Does Joan of Arc (Jeanne d'Arc) rings any bell?

Joan asserted that she had visions from God that instructed her to recover her homeland from English domination late in the Hundred Years' War. The uncrowned King Charles VII sent her to the siege of Orléans as part of a relief mission. She gained prominence when she overcame the dismissive attitude of veteran commanders and lifted the siege in only nine days. Several more swift victories led to Charles VII's coronation at Reims and settled the disputed succession to the throne.
Down to the present day Joan of Arc has remained a significant figure in Western culture. From Napoleon onward, French politicians of all leanings have invoked her memory. Famous writers and composers who have created works about her include: Shakespeare, Voltaire, Schiller, Verdi, Tchaikovsky, Mark Twain, Bertolt Brecht, George Bernard Shaw and Maxwell Anderson.

But hey, you are much smarter than these people cause you’re a female.

Now you can do me the honor and ban this account too.

But be careful if you write back stupidities I will find a way to come back and say my word. Remember God will help me to do so (it was his words)