How Much of the Bible Must Be Historical to Believe?

[KanadaHye]

Re: How Much of the Bible Must Be Historical to Believe?

So your answer to the question in the the OP of "how much of the bible must be historically accurate for you to believe in it?" is "none." You could have just answered the question and left it at that.

No... what I meant was, you can't believe in a book. It's there for information. I don't believe in my car manual, it can't diagnose and fix my car. That is left up to me. However, it can give me information about how to diagnose and fix my car. If I'm smart enough to figure it out without the book, then it stays on the shelf.

[Siggie]

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I know eh. What does the bible have to do with belief.

So your answer to the question in the the OP of "how much of the bible must be historically accurate for you to believe in it?" is "none." You could have just answered the question and left it at that.

[KanadaHye]

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This thread is absurd.

I know eh. What does the bible have to do with belief.

[One-Way]

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This thread is absurd.

[KanadaHye]

Re: How Much of the Bible Must Be Historical to Believe?

Blah blah blah... Stop diverting. You make a claim, I ask for evidence, you ignore it and make another claim. No. Show me where Jesus expressed disagreement with something in the OT.

I didn't think I'd need evidence since it's common knowledge...

Jesus faced a mob that was eager to execute a woman caught in adultery. He put a stop to it with a simple challenge: anyone who has no sin in their life should step forward and throw the first stone. That sentence is often cited as a reminder to avoid judging others when there are faults in your own life that need to be addressed.

"So when they continued asking him, he lifted up himself, and said unto them, He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her."

[Siggie]

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This is where the history part comes in. Jesus was an anarchist of sorts teaching revolutionary ideas which were aimed directly towards breaking down the power structure of the Roman Empire. Anything in the Old Testament (3rd book in the J3wish Torah) is the old law, many of which Jesus opposed. After all, he was put to death for educating people in everything from personal behavior, to law and even politics.

Every wonder why your pathetic country can't seem to let you forget about 9-11?

Romans 9-11
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/...;&version=ESV;

Blah blah blah... Stop diverting. You make a claim, I ask for evidence, you ignore it and make another claim. No. Show me where Jesus expressed disagreement with something in the OT.

[Haykakan]

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Yeh but im trying to educate people and see the facts instead of propogating bs in a new bs book.

Dude, you live in the modern Rome, a country that kills for gold, oil, diamonds and anything for profit and you're talking about selective memory.

[KanadaHye]

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So everything it says in the Old Testament (OT) doesn't count? I don't recall where in the New Testament (NT) it says that Jesus disagreed with what the Old Testament god said and did.

I'll wait for you to give me that passage where it says that... I humored you and gave you quotes when you asked me to substantiate what I was saying. Let's see yours then; where's the evidence that the NT message disagrees with that of the OT.
I'll even settle for where it revisits the issue of homosexuals, nonbelievers, or other "sinners" and concludes something that doesn't agree with what's expressed previously in the Old Testament.

This is where the history part comes in. Jesus was an anarchist of sorts teaching revolutionary ideas which were aimed directly towards breaking down the power structure of the Roman Empire. Anything in the Old Testament (3rd book in the J3wish Torah) is the old law, many of which Jesus opposed. After all, he was put to death for educating people in everything from personal behavior, to law and even politics.

Every wonder why your pathetic country can't seem to let you forget about 9-11?

Romans 9-11
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/...;&version=ESV;

[Siggie]

Re: How Much of the Bible Must Be Historical to Believe?

Leviticus is from the Old Testament (J3wish law)

As for the quote from Romans, Paul is referring to how the people of Rome have become the scum of the Earth with extremely poor morals and that those people are worthy of death (in other words, there would be no tears shed if they died)

So everything it says in the Old Testament (OT) doesn't count? I don't recall where in the New Testament (NT) it says that Jesus disagreed with what the Old Testament god said and did.

I'll wait for you to give me that passage where it says that... I humored you and gave you quotes when you asked me to substantiate what I was saying. Let's see yours then; where's the evidence that the NT message disagrees with that of the OT.
I'll even settle for where it revisits the issue of homosexuals, nonbelievers, or other "sinners" and concludes something that doesn't agree with what's expressed previously in the Old Testament.

[KanadaHye]

Re: How Much of the Bible Must Be Historical to Believe?

Religious people seem to have selective memory when it comes to recalling the bible. They remember love and peace yet forget kill kill kill... Everything good is caused by god everything bad by devil and men... this gets really boring and redundent after a while. If a fool wishes to remain a fool then that is his/her business but unfortunetely his/her decision on this matter effects the rest of us to.

Dude, you live in the modern Rome, a country that kills for gold, oil, diamonds and anything for profit and you're talking about selective memory.