What kind of Armenian are you?

[bell-the-cat]

Re: What kind of Armenian are you?

And another thread derailed. Good God man, WHY DO YOU EXIST
Honestly there isn't a single thing you said that has any logical basis whatsoever. For one, half of the bans have been directly thanks to your agitation, and yet you somehow you survive. Second of all, most of the users of this forum are in Diaspora looking to maintain their heritage. Nobody is trying to guide their community. The communities are bound to assimilate. History
proves that, what the hell are 20 people around the world gonna do. And I can genuinely say I don't hate a single person here, though you manage to push that limit pretty well through examples like this. And there is currently one nation trying to destroy Armenia and that is the nation whose president says so everyday when he gets outta bed.

Mher, posting since June 2011. Again not long enough maybe, since again I don't consider you to be part of that "Superior" group.


Also, I did make my reply to what was a specific question made in this thread.

How can you claim that nobody is trying to guide / direct / control the Armenian diaspora? It is full of people trying to say what its members should or should not be doing about this or that or the next thing and what it needs to do to survive.

[Chubs]

Re: What kind of Armenian are you?

Mher, posting since June 2011. Again not long enough maybe, since again I don't consider you to be part of that "Superior" group.


Also, I did make my reply to what was a specific question made in this thread.

How can you claim that nobody is trying to guide / direct / control the Armenian diaspora? It is full of people trying to say what its members should or should not be doing about this or that or the next thing and what it needs to do to survive.

Wow. This whole time i thought you were armenian and the others were just poking at you. Well armenian or not id still like to hear about your origin. Now if you dont mind im gonna make me a cream cheese peanut butter and lavash sandwich

[Eddo211]

Re: What kind of Armenian are you?

Only because you asked (I have explained it a number of times elsewhere).

Armenian forums are the natural habitat of a curious sub-group I call the "Superior Armenian". All members of this group delight in telling other Armenians the things they should be doing in order to become or remain "proper" Armenians, and how Armenia is heading for extinction because ordinary Armenians won't follow the demands of their superiors. But "group" is not really correct, because there can be only one true Superior Armenian, riding in on a white horse to save the Armenian nation from itself and from the Turks and from the whole non-Armenian world that is (and always has been) continually and ceaslessly conspiring to destroy Armenia. So "Superior Armenians" all really hate each other even though they share the same do-what-I-say outlook and ideology. They eventually explode into angry OTT confrontation. That is partly why most of the permanently banned ex-members of Armenian forums fall into the "Superior Armenians" category.

As I have also said before - if anyone can coin a better term than "Superior Armenian", then please do it. And those who say that there is no such thing, they are either members of that thing or have not been looking for the past 15 years at what goes on in Armenian forums.

You are the "Superior Armenian".....since you know everything about us better than ourselves and you have been visiting/trolling Armenian forums with no respect for them.
and we love foreigners, I wished there were more such members here....we just don't like you, its got nothing to do with being none Armenians.

[UrMistake]

Re: What kind of Armenian are you?

UrMistake, posting since November 2008. Give it another 10 years and maybe you will see the truth (since I don't consider you to be part of the "Superior" group)

A further observation, again gained from over 15 years worth of looking at what goes on in Armenian forums, the main thing that unites Armenians (the online ones anyway) is a group expression of their hatred of non-Armenians. Is that sort of a unity a unity worth expressing? It is certainly is not a unity that generates respect.

No Bell , you have the mental capacity to overlook the natural problem of armenian disagreement , not only its natural to our culture to disagree and have tough stance on our opinions but we got the blessing of listening and reasoning with the counter arguments or dont talk at ALL be silent!

Its natural phenomenon overlooking armenian fight of different ideas and opinions and sadly its bad to make your final judgment on us trough that and only !

You should know better about our diaspora and the so many different cultural effects on them ..uniquely applied to the core of armenian culture individually for each one of us.
Blessing and a Curse.
We are armenians coated with the colors of 169 different nations ,so to respect and love one armenian you should globally respect the very different aspect and culture of every each of those nations.
We have done it and separate from the others cause in the end we all are armenians in the core with same pain and same blood calling us to love and respect eachother.

[bell-the-cat]

Re: What kind of Armenian are you?

No Bell , you have the mental capacity to overlook the natural problem of armenian disagreement , not only its natural to our culture to disagree and have tough stance on our opinions but we got the blessing of listening and reasoning with the counter arguments or dont talk at ALL be silent!

What you are calling disagreements are mostly just expressions of individuality from a society that is clever enough and old enough and varied enough to know that there are rarely perfect solutions and conclusive answers. But there seems to me to be too many Armenians (both in Armenia and, amongst the self-appointed "guardians" of diaspora communities who are active online) who nowadays cannot tolerate individuality and self expression - they are the "Superior Armenians", the ones who go around saying such and such are not "Armenian values", and this or that is required to be done in order to "save" the Armenian nation. "Unity" is a word they use a lot - but really it just means "be united in doing what I say". And yes, it will be the same for many diaspora communities, and probably quite a few countries - it is not an exclusively Armenian thing but this IS a forum about Armenia.

[Eddo211]

Re: What kind of Armenian are you?

Liberalism vs conservatism is nothing new and exists in many cultures.....especially when assimilation becomes a problem for small nations.

Bell you will never understand us and live in the past.....nobody is telling anyone how to be Armenian in this forum except you, the perfect wannabe Armenian.

[lampron]

Re: What kind of Armenian are you?

But there seems to me to be too many Armenians (both in Armenia and, amongst the self-appointed "guardians" of diaspora communities who are active online) who nowadays cannot tolerate individuality and self expression - they are the "Superior Armenians",.

for most Armenians entering online forums Armenianism is a leisure activity. They enter forums to feel good about themselves. They don't like people delivering news or information that doesn't fulfill this need

[Eddo211]

Re: What kind of Armenian are you?

for most Armenians entering online forums Armenianism is a leisure activity. They enter forums to feel good about themselves. They don't like people delivering news or information that doesn't fulfill this need

I have joined to this Armenian forum to to connect with other Armenians and to get our Hyeclub news and the most important our military improvement and the balance of power in the NKR thread.

For my leisure I hunt down your religious extremists/wolfs/military Turks spreading anti-Armenian propaganda on Turkish, Pakistani, Iranian, American forums.....another reason I come to Hyeclub is to take a brake from this, this evil dirtiness and extreme hate and prejudice I experience on those sites from your countrymen.

Thread derailed by you two guys.

[lampron]

Re: What kind of Armenian are you?

I have joined to this Armenian forum to to connect with other Armenians and to get our Hyeclub news and the most important our military improvement and the balance of power in the NKR thread.

For my leisure I hunt down your religious extremists/wolfs/military Turks spreading anti-Armenian propaganda on Turkish, Pakistani, Iranian, American forums.....another reason I come to Hyeclub is to take a brake from this, this evil dirtiness and extreme hate and prejudice I experience on those sites from your countrymen.

Thread derailed by you two guys.

well, I didn't say everyone, I said most. It is right to oppose anti-Armenian propaganda, especially the spread of false information.

But more important is Armenians analyzing the cause of past failures and starting to correct them.

One of them is over-reliance on foreign powers

[Eddo211]

Re: What kind of Armenian are you?

But more important is Armenians analyzing the cause of past failures and starting to correct them.

One of them is over-reliance on foreign powers

I couldn't agree with you more on this.....where (city) you live in Lampron?