Sweatshops

[Darorinag]

I would buy it, I don't see why Isreali products are any different then others. Would you not buy things from Israel b/c you dislike Israel, or b/c you dislike the stuff that they produce??

Because my dad was killed in a war fuelled by Israel and that murderer Sharon and his minions. Simple as that. It hurts most when it hits home.

[Tres Bien]

Darorinag:Im very sorry to hear about your father.

Anynoumous, what it it was you who got stranded somehow in a country in latin america, and just as the other locals, you are desperate because you have nothing, and you have a family who is starving if you wouldnt go to work, and like that isn't enough, you would have to send your little children to work as well??

(Anyone can be seated in a desperate situation, this is the fact when idiots are running the world.)

This is highly obusive , and simply richer people taking advantage of other peoples missfortunes.

If you dont want it to change, you want it to remain that way. Then one
can simply imply that you're anti-development, anti-education.

[Anonymouse]

Anynoumous, what it it was you who got stranded somehow in a country in latin america, and just as the other locals, you are desperate because you have nothing, and you have a family who is starving if you wouldnt go to work, and like that isn't enough, you would have to send your little children to work as well??

This is simply emotional rhetoric. I have to disagree, based on historic and economic reasons. The fact that these companies create jobs in those countries is productive, not counter-productive, contrary to what your socialistic leanings are. Every society at one point has child-labor, and these societies are where the U.S. was 100 years ago, in poverty and moving into industrialization. They are poverty striken and they rely on the labor of their children. Come on, it wasn't long ago that our grandparents worked as children ( at least my grandparets worked early on in the Ottoman Empire and my dad even as a kid in Armenia worked ). We wouldn't like child-labor sure, but these are societies that cannot do anything about it, and what would you rather have? I am to guess, by your opinion, you would have the State as the nanny, telling people what they can or can't do. If a family wants their child to work and the parents approve of it, who are you or the State to tell them otherwise? Do you somehow know there interests and consciousness better than they do? Why do you seek to impose your decisions on other people? That is very socialistic of you, but then again, you live in France a very socialistic country, no?

The fact is we do have to work in order to survive, that is the rule, because what separates man from the other animals is labor. No one works, no one survives, work is an ethic. I am to guess you would favor heavy socialistic welfare type State and programs that "provide" people with "wealth". People who criticize the free market, who are very socialistic, fail to understand the praxaeological laws that are in effect, of how there becomes prosperity in the first place. If no one worked, and everyone was under some socialistic State or agenda, where would the benefits come from? Prosperity doesn't just come about by some beaurocrats or Statists sitting and passing welfare bills. It comes from labor, from producers to workers to consumers.

(Anyone can be seated in a desperate situation, this is the fact when idiots are running the world.)

This is highly obusive , and simply richer people taking advantage of other peoples missfortunes.

If you dont want it to change, you want it to remain that way. Then one
can simply imply that you're anti-development, anti-education.

This further belief that the market economy is the ultimate weapon of rich against poor is also false. For one must first understand the nature of economics and the natural inequalities of man to understand why there will always be rich and poor. Moreover that these rich people open companies in those poor countries are not "exploiting" them, but are giving them a chance to labor and to actually have a chance to perhaps be better than they were. Prior to these companies many of these countries were under old State run systems, very feudalistic or autocratic. The free market changes all that. I have yet to see any sound criticisms aside from pre-set socialistic minds who simply see this as "exploitation" without understanding how it works. I'm sorry, it doesn't work that way.

[Tres Bien]

for Your enlightment,
isnt the state a nanny?today????? The capitalist USA, doesnt your goverment control very much, not only in your country, but in other countries as well......

half way around the globe

[Anonymouse]

My country? Haha I love it how the gullible amongst us still use such labels as if "countries" are "ours" or something.

To answer your question, I said the State is a nanny. And yes the U.S. controls alot indeed. Your point?

[Tres Bien]

This is simply emotional rhetoric. I have to disagree, based on historic and economic reasons. The fact that these companies create jobs in those countries is productive, not counter-productive, contrary to what your socialistic leanings are. Every society at one point has child-labor, and these societies are where the U.S. was 100 years ago, in poverty and moving into industrialization. They are poverty striken and they rely on the labor of their children. Come on, it wasn't long ago that our grandparents worked as children ( at least my grandparets worked early on in the Ottoman Empire and my dad even as a kid in Armenia worked ). We wouldn't like child-labor sure, but these are societies that cannot do anything about it, and what would you rather have? I am to guess, by your opinion, you would have the State as the nanny, telling people what they can or can't do. If a family wants their child to work and the parents approve of it, who are you or the State to tell them otherwise? Do you somehow know there interests and consciousness better than they do? Why do you seek to impose your decisions on other people? That is very socialistic of you, but then again, you live in France a very socialistic country, no?

.....

I dont think it makes a difference were you live, but naturally there should be more socialists in france, and in sweden too where i live, but that is hardly the case.

You've stated that I want a nanny state, and that im a commie, or socialist, whatever, Well, we already live in one! There is no soviet anymore, there are no Communistic empires to crash, wake up from your hollywood dream The only threath is USA. And youre telling me its right of them to act the way they do?

The conditions in wich the work is inhuman. Thats why many documentary filmers are not allowed to film inside the buildings so they wont see how badly they are treating there employes.

Yeah, there are not many choices for them but to work there. But nevertheless it goes agains the international human-rights laws.

[Darorinag]

USA is a threat??? More like, the country it's in bed with....

[Tres Bien]

They are one and the same

[patlajan]

They are one and the same

It's always funny when the french take the moral highground about sweatshops, colonialism or anything else. Hey we've stolen and plundered for hundreds of years but now we're reformed and we think you're bad ! Everything the U.S. does makes us feel impotent so we take the moral highground.

[Darorinag]

They are one and the same

Indeed.