Question for Dan

[Emil]

You guys need to stop "arguing" with Dan. He's like a little kid, whatever points you prove, he'll just come back and say they are exceptions.

[Anonymouse]

Here are a few more to add to your collection of exceptions ... from the same friend. These are some "exceptional" famous black orchestral composers.

Akpabot, Samuel
Amu, Ephraim
Bankole, Ayo
El-Dabh, Halim
Euba, Akin
Nketia, Joseph Hanson Kwabena
Turkson, Ato Alphonso
Adams, Leslie H.
Anderson, Thomas Jefferson
Baker, David
Batiste, Alvin
Belaka, O'Sai Tutu (Charles Bell, Sr.)
Bland, Edward Osmund
Brown, Uzee
Carter, Warwick L.
Clark, Edgar Rogie
Clay, Omar
Cloud, Lee Vernell
Cunningham, Arthur
Da Costa, Noel G.
Dédé, Edmund
Dennis, Mark Andrew, Jr.
xxxxerson, Roger Donald
Duncan, John
Fischer, William S.
Fountain, Primous,
Furman, James B.
Hailstork, Adolphus Cunningham,
Hakim, Talib Rasul
Hammond, Douglas
Hanxxxx, Eugene Wilson
Handy, Dorothy Antoinette
Harris, Robert A.
Hayes, Joseph
Holden, James, Jr.
Holland, Justin Minor
Holmes, Robert L.
Humble, K.
Jeffers, George
Jenkins, Leroy
Johnson, Frank
Johnson, James Louis
Kay, Ulysses Simpson
Kennedy, Joseph J., Jr.
Kerr, Thomas H., Jr.
Lambert, Lucien
Lampley, Calvin Douglas
Lateef, Yusef
Lewis, John Aaron
Logan, Wendell Morris
McCall, Maurice Henderson
McCreary, Richard Deming, Jr.
McDaniels, William Foster
McLean, Hamilton G.
McLin, Lena Johnson
Mells, Herbert Franklin
Mitchell, Roscoe
Moore, Carman Leroy
Moore, Dorothy Rudd
Moore, Kermit
Moore, Undine Smith
Nelson, Kalvert Jalalu
Nelson, Oliver Edward
Perry, Julia Amanda
Pickett, Donald
Price, Florence Beatrice Smith
Price, John Elwood
Rollins, Theodore Walter
Singleton, Alvin
Smith, Hale
Stewart, Earl L.
Still, William Grant
Swanson, Howard
Thomas, Russell, Jr.
Tillis, Fredrick Charles
Tyler, Robert
Walker, George Theophilus
White, Andrew N.,
White, Clarence Cameron
Williams, Kimo Lafayette
Wilson, Olly
Cordero, Roque
Gutiérrez y Espinosa, Felipe
Leon, Tania J.
Roldan, Amadeo
Bridgetower, George Polgreen
Camilleri, Charles
Coleridge-Taylor, Samuel
Saint-Georges, Chevalier de (Joseph Boulogne)
Sancho, Ignatius

And that is why they are not famous the world over, and why composers such as Bach, Mozart, Chopen, Vivaldi, Beethoven, Wagner, Tchaikovsky, are far more famous and preferred. And I am to guess this is because of overt "racism" that we don't know about these great black composers. Really, let's stop with this egalitarian sillyness of trying to prove "we are all equal".

[Sip]

Really, let's stop with this egalitarian sillyness of trying to prove "we are all equal".

Why would you assume this is about proving/disproving equality? I thought this thread was about "Has there ever been a black or Jewish person who was a good person or who came up with an original idea?"

i.e. we are pondering the question of existence rather than proportions. Of course Dan's childish counter argument is "exceptions" while in the grand scheme of things, that (i.e. acknowleding existence of exceptions) in itself proves the existence of intelligent blacks which completely undermines Dan's wonderful fantasy world of Blacks being monkeys from Affrica.

[Anonymouse]

I thought this thread was about "Has there ever been a black or Jewish person who was a good person or who came up with an original idea?"

Okay, my mistake. The answer is obviously 'Yes'.

[Sip]

Okay, my mistake. The answer is obviously 'Yes'.

Well, we already know you are intelligent (although some others may claim that is debatable). But that's probably why the thread was titled "Question for Dan"

[Anonymouse]

Well, we already know you are intelligent (although some others may claim that is debatable). But that's probably why the thread was titled "Question for Dan"

Well, I'm not intelligent, I'm just good at posting long protracted posts and copy and pasting for the most part. But Dan has a way of arguing against facts with opinions, and if not, there is always the " " defense mechanism which kicks in right about when there are insufficient responses. But it's okay for Grandpa Jones loves Dan!

[Anonymouse]

By the way Dan, you never quite effectively answered to me why war on Muslims is justified simply because they are "fanatic Muslims".

[patlajan]

By the way Dan, you never quite effectively answered to me why war on Muslims is justified simply because they are "fanatic Muslims".

I don't believe any of this fanatic muslim crap. Islam is a nifty recruitment tool for the osama bin losers of the world. If you can't convince someone there's a god and heaven how are you gonna convince them to kill themselves for you. I bet even bin laden doesn't believe his own crap at the end of long days in the cave.

[Darorinag]

By the way Dan, you never quite effectively answered to me why war on Muslims is justified simply because they are "fanatic Muslims".

There is a difference in being fanatic in your belief and using that fanaticism as a jumping point to other evil acts. In modern times, no Christian country has ever done that. USA certainly didn't attack Iraq for religious reasons, that's for sure. Whereas many many Muslims preach hatred based on religion.

[Darorinag]

Yes, way to go Seapahn, naming 3 people in each field makes them the "rule" rather than the "exception." Way to go. As Fadi would say, I would've posted the names of millions of white contributors, but I have a life.